# The new TV season

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 5, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311 "2011-09-05T22:14:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/41 "2011-09-06T01:24:03Z")

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> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#):
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> There’s something of that, true. But really, I’m just sick of wanting to vomit whenever I watch TV that’s not a documentary or a thirty year old rerun.

Wait, if you hate contemporary television that much, _what are you doing in this thread_?

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/42 "2011-09-06T01:26:27Z")

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p.s. Anybody got a link to a definitive list?

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/43 "2011-09-06T01:27:22Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> So you haven’t watched TV in years. _Any_ prime-time show?

Last prime time fictional show I tried? _Chicago Code_. I watched out of hometown pride. Watched one episode. Couldn’t bring myself to watch again.

Last prime time fictional comedy show I actually enjoyed? I’d say _Seinfeld_. Good dialog there and clever plot twists.

Last prime time drama show I actually enjoyed? Christ, it’s been so long. _Law & Order_ with Jerry Orbach I guess?

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/44 "2011-09-06T01:30:06Z")

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> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#):
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> [This](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfPVoiQKFvk)? Yer link got hashed.

Yep! That’s it. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/45 "2011-09-06T01:30:47Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Wait, if you hate contemporary television that much, _what are you doing in this thread_?

Because I’m sick of folks saying that today’s television is the best it’s ever been, when that’s so manifestly wrong.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/46 "2011-09-06T01:31:56Z")

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> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#):
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> Last prime time fictional show I tried? _Chicago Code_. I watched out of hometown pride. Watched one episode. Couldn’t bring myself to watch again.
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> Last prime time fictional comedy show I actually enjoyed? I’d say _Seinfeld_. Good dialog there and clever plot twists.
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> Last prime time drama show I actually enjoyed? Christ, it’s been so long. _Law & Order_ with Jerry Orbach I guess?

Damn, I believe you’re missing out on a lot. Maybe you’ve just lost interest or are preoccupied? But I’m not going to try and sell ya here.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/47 "2011-09-06T01:32:32Z")

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Forgot my favorite drama! :smack: _Criminal Minds_.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/48 "2011-09-06T01:32:38Z")

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> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#):
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> > [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> > Wait, if you hate contemporary television that much, _what are you doing in this thread_?
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> Because I’m sick of folks saying that today’s television is the best it’s ever been, when that’s so manifestly wrong.

So start a thread about that instead of coming into a thread specifically about the upcoming season and complaining about how terrible it all is.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/49 "2011-09-06T01:33:49Z")

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> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#):
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> Because I’m sick of folks saying that today’s television is the best it’s ever been, when that’s so manifestly wrong.

Well, how would you even know?

I’m not trying to be snarky, it just seems there might be some paralyzing cynicism at play here.

I tell you what, watch _only_ the first episode of Breaking Bad. I dare you not to watch the second.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/50 "2011-09-06T01:38:22Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> Last show I remember Fox giving such a huge push was New Amsterdam, which wound up getting a last minute shove into mid-season and instant cancellation. Hopefully this one will fare better.

Really? I don’t remember any commercials for New Amsterdam before its banishment (it was cancelled before it even premiered right?).

But yeah, Terra Nova looks awesome but I’m convinced it’ll be cancelled.

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/51 "2011-09-06T01:41:07Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> Well, how would you even know?
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> I’m not trying to be snarky, it just seems there might be some paralyzing cynicism at play here.
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> I tell you what, watch _only_ the first episode of Breaking Bad. I dare you not to watch the second.

Okay. You’re on. I’ll report in a new thread since I seem to be spoiling this one here. Everyone else, please continue your ruminations while I watch _Breaking Bad_.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/52 "2011-09-06T01:44:32Z")

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> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#):
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> Okay. You’re on. I’ll report in a new thread since I seem to be spoiling this one here. Everyone else, please continue your ruminations while I watch _Breaking Bad_.

Cool. I honestly, sincerely hope you enjoy it.

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**Author:** ![monkeylucifer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@monkeylucifer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monkeylucifer)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/53 "2011-09-06T01:47:06Z")

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The Pan Am and Playboy shows look like desperate attempts to create a new Mad Men type of show.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/54 "2011-09-06T01:51:11Z")

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> [@monkeylucifer](#):
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> The Pan Am and Playboy shows look like desperate attempts to create a new Mad Men type of show.

I get the same vibe. I might check out the pilot for both, but they don’t seem very compelling to me. And I say that as a very straight male.

Pan Am seems more fun, but it does just seem like ABC flailing in response of Mad Men.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/55 "2011-09-06T01:59:53Z")

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> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#):
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> p.s. Anybody got a link to a definitive list?

IMDB has lists of [premiere dates](http://www.imdb.com/features/fall_tv_preview/2011/), if that helps.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/56 "2011-09-06T02:05:47Z")

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Nice! Thanks, **Morgyn.**

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/57 "2011-09-06T03:02:41Z")

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Any cable dates yet? (History especially)

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/58 "2011-09-06T03:59:29Z")

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In a brief glance at shows, I’m interested more or less in:

Terra Nova  
Grimm  
Ringer  
Homeland  
Once Upon a Time  
Pan Am  
Person of Interest  
The Playboy Club  
Unforgettable  
American Horror Story  
Awake

We don’t get Showtime, so Homeland is out. The trailer for Awake is great. Ringer’s TV spots are annoying, but the IMDB trailer was interesting. (In the commercials, I was afraid one of the women was named Chiffon. I cringed. Siobhan I can handle. Chiffon, no!)

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/59 "2011-09-06T04:10:55Z")

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I can’t remember the name but I’m excited for the show where the guy lives two lives: one where his son lived and another where his wife lived.

I’m actually looking forward to New Girl, as I love Zooey Deschanel.

The one about the Marylin Montoe Broadway show seems like a wannabe cash in of Glee.

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**Author:** ![Crawlspace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Crawlspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crawlspace)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/60 "2011-09-06T04:27:59Z")

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So far I’m looking forward to the return of \*\*Mad Men, Community, Big Bang Theory, Modern Family, How I Met Your Mother, and Boardwalk Empire. \*\* Boardwalk especially since my cable was out all week due to the hurricane and I went through the entire first season twice in that time. **Breaking Bad** is two thirds through the season so that doesn’t really count in my book. Haven’t paid attention to what’s new, but I’m sure I’ll find one or two that interest me.

> [@cmyk](#):
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> Ooof. Alright then, why not just admit you don’t like television, rather than just dissing the good stuff based on watching trailers?

Telling everyone you don’t like television is sooo 5 years ago. Now you have to lament how it’s just not as good as it used to be.

> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#):
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> Maybe the old programs deserved criticism for neatly solving problems in an hour or less. But there’s something to be said for a succinct storyline.

There is. As my grandma would put it, “Small things amuse small minds.”

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