# The new TV season

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 5, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311 "2011-09-05T22:14:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/121 "2011-09-17T21:58:13Z")

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> [@SmellMyWort](#):
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> My reaction, too. I hate the “stupid husband/father” meme in commercials and on TV so hopefully they don’t continue with that, even though it was a minor part of an otherwise OK show.

Well, in fairness, the wife/mom seemed equally stupid in this one.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/122 "2011-09-19T18:55:52Z")

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New Shows:  
I’m most looking forward to Once Upon A Time, Grimm, Revenge, & American Horror Story  
I’ll check out Terra Nova too, but I don’t think it’s got any more staying power than FlashForward did.

Returning Shows:  
I most look forward to the returns of Supernatural, Castle and Bones… and finally getting around to watching the new episodes of Lost Girl I recorded this month.

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/123 "2011-09-19T19:01:41Z")

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I hated **New Girl**.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/124 "2011-09-19T19:04:18Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> Returning Shows:  
> I most look forward to the returns of Supernatural, Castle and Bones… and finally getting around to watching the new episodes of Lost Girl I recorded this month.

And Fringe! Oops.

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/125 "2011-09-19T19:33:35Z")

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I wanted to like Up All Night but it was just so blah and I wasn’t interested in any of the characters.

Ringer wasn’t too bad I’ll give it another couple episodes and see how I feel.

I’m actually going to watch 2 1/2 Men tonight to see Ashton Kutcher on there. I never could stand the show before.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/126 "2011-09-19T20:49:24Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> I hated **New Girl**.

I thought it premiered tomorrow?

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/127 "2011-09-19T21:03:02Z")

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The _New Girl_ pilot has been available on Hulu. I watched it and it seems intriguing. I can’t want for it to find its feet and move past the initial premise.

I’m anxiously (and patiently) waiting for _Bones_, _House_ and _30 Rock_ to come back. I don’t care about anything else.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/128 "2011-09-20T05:54:47Z")

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Well, _The Playboy Club_ is, as i suspected, pretty much unwatchable. The writing is shit, the characters are uninteresting, and the acting is mediocre. I seriously doubt that it will appeal to many fans of _Mad Men_ .

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/129 "2011-09-21T16:23:02Z")

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I liked _Unforgettable_ well enough to want to see more. I don’t know if it’s for the writing so much, but I like the two leads.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/130 "2011-09-21T18:48:27Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> I liked _Unforgettable_ well enough to want to see more. I don’t know if it’s for the writing so much, but I like the two leads.

I liked it okay – but the whole plot of the first ep was that Carrie had been a witness to various things before and immediately after the murder. If she’s a cop, that won’t be the case – how are they planning to “use” her memory as a plot point?

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/131 "2011-09-21T19:31:02Z")

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Two big problems for me:

1. I am utterly tired of the hero/ine must be haunted by a personal tragedy in his/her past. You know, like Beckett in Castle and Simon in the Mentalist? And at least a dozen others…

2. I don’t like the way they are showing her remembering. When the ‘present’ her is walking around watching as the ‘past’ her relives things she obviously is ‘remembering’ stuff she couldn’t have possibly seen in the first place. Also the idea of then ‘focusing’ in on an aspect she didn’t see the first time, like whozie sitting in the coffee shop, is as bogus as 24’s constant ‘enhance’ orders suddenly managing to create infrared data that was never recorded. She might be able to examine her memory and call up exactly how many buttons were undone in the shirt of the suspect she was questioning. By the hair color of someone in a passing car she never focused her eyes on? No way.

I didn’t hate the show, despite that, so I guess that’s down to the lead actors.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/132 "2011-09-21T21:05:05Z")

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_The New Girl_ was pretty mediocre. I’ll give it a few more chances, but I was underwhelmed.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/133 "2011-09-21T21:12:58Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> I liked it okay – but the whole plot of the first ep was that Carrie had been a witness to various things before and immediately after the murder. If she’s a cop, that won’t be the case – how are they planning to “use” her memory as a plot point?

I’m guessing she’ll be like a slow-witted version of the guy on PSYCH: they’ll tromp around to ask a few questions of each person of interest at their job or their home or whatever, and it’ll only later dawn on her that she didn’t then notice – but now of course recalls – a couple of key items in the background that in retrospect prove the guy was lying.

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/134 "2011-09-22T01:24:28Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> I liked _Unforgettable_ well enough to want to see more. I don’t know if it’s for the writing so much, but I like the two leads.

OK, but - and I was going to start a new thread on this, but this seems to be a good spot as well - I am so tired of shows that have that big story arc. What, we have to wait until the end of this season (or longer) to discover her little sister’s murderer? So, every week a new crime, but then a few crumbs on that big story arc again?  
We have this nonsense going on in Castle (who killed the mom?) and I believe in Law & Order SVU (who killed the mom?) and multiple other series.

Other than that, Unforgettable could be kind of cool, her remembering every little tidbit (although in Psych, Shawn is able to pick up on every little detail as well).

Not the worst show of the season, but not exactly on the “must-see” list either. Will give it a few more tries.

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/135 "2011-09-22T20:34:18Z")

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Anybody watch “Revenge”? I think it might become a guilty pleasure of mine. There’s something satisfying about watching smug rich people get shafted…

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/136 "2011-09-22T20:59:45Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Well, _The Playboy Club_ is, as i suspected, pretty much unwatchable. The writing is shit, the characters are uninteresting, and the acting is mediocre. I seriously doubt that it will appeal to many fans of _Mad Men_ .

You still have Pan Am to look forward to (disappointing you)!

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/137 "2011-09-23T04:31:46Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Well, _The Playboy Club_ is, as i suspected, pretty much unwatchable. The writing is shit, the characters are uninteresting, and the acting is mediocre. I seriously doubt that it will appeal to many fans of _Mad Men_ .

I’m pretty sure I wasn’t supposed to laugh at the part where the naive Bunny killed the creepy old guy trying to rape her, because in the struggle she accidentally kicked him in the neck with her stiletto heel – but laugh I did.

I think it has potential as a “so bad it’s good” guilty pleasure show.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/138 "2011-09-23T06:22:08Z")

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_Whitney_ was horrible. Really, truly awful.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/139 "2011-09-23T14:38:44Z")

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> [@amarinth](#):
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> _Whitney_ was horrible. Really, truly awful.

About a minute in, boyfriend says to Whitney “You’re wearing a hoodie to a wedding?” and we get the laugh track! What’s funny about that line?

I liked _Prime Suspect_ and the last half of _Person of Interest_ (missed the first half).

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**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/140 "2011-09-23T15:29:44Z")

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I liked _Whitney_ and it wasn’t a laugh track; it’s a live studio audience. I liked _Prime Suspect_, too.

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