# The New York Times reports that judge Kuntz has ruled against ms. Cheeks. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2014, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422 "2014-06-23T06:04:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kstarnes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4da419/32.png) [@kstarnes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kstarnes)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422/1 "2014-06-23T06:04:45Z")
Link: [Judge Upholds Policy Barring Unvaccinated Students During Illnesses - The New York Times](http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/23/nyregion/judge-upholds-policy-barring-unvaccinated-students-during-illnesses.html?hp) In a legal battle some have dubbed ‘Kuntz vs. Cheeks,’ the judge rules in favor of the city on its vaccination policy. The issues involve individual rights vs. the health and safety of the community. How does one strike that balance? What about religious freedom and, blah bljlasd blah ljksjksdjklsdjlksljk fk sdjfklsfjklsd fjkljklsdjkl sdfjlksdjlfk sdjlkf sdjklfsdjklfjsdklfj klsdjklf sdjkl sdjklfd. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422/2 "2014-06-23T06:21:04Z")
Um, did you have a stroke??😕 I’m confused because that sure _looked_ awfully unintentional yet you still managed to hit the “Post New Thread” button. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422/3 "2014-06-23T06:53:08Z")
I worked with a guy named Kuntz. He pronounced it koonst. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422/4 "2014-06-23T06:59:12Z")
He wrote one or two just OK books but Dear God, enough with the golden retrievers! ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422/5 "2014-06-23T08:59:59Z")
Waitaminute . . . They’re not being forced to immunize their children, their children are allowed to attend public school, the only restriction- the reason for the lawsuit- is that the unvaccinated children are not allowed to come to school _while another child at that school has a vaccine preventable disease_ and the parents are UPSET about this??? [ul] [li]Your child is not vaccinated against chickenpox.[/li][li]A child at your child’s school HAS CHICKENPOX[/li][li]School says, “Keep your child home, there’s a danger of exposure to chickenpox _against which your child is NOT VACCINATED_ and therefore _could FUCKING DIE_ if exposed.”[/li][/ul] And the parents are suing because their kids are not allowed at the school??? I. Really. Do. NOT. Get. This. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422/6 "2014-06-23T09:29:50Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > Waitaminute . . . They’re not being forced to immunize their children, their children are allowed to attend public school, the only restriction- the reason for the lawsuit- is that the unvaccinated children are not allowed to come to school _while another child at that school has a vaccine preventable disease_ and the parents are UPSET about this??? > > [ul] > [li]Your child is not vaccinated against chickenpox.[/li][li]A child at your child’s school HAS CHICKENPOX[/li][li]School says, “Keep your child home, there’s a danger of exposure to chickenpox _against which your child is NOT VACCINATED_ and therefore _could FUCKING DIE_ if exposed.”[/li][/ul] > And the parents are suing because their kids are not allowed at the school??? > > I. Really. Do. NOT. Get. This. They _want_ the kid to get chicken pox. They _want_ to spread chicken pox to other kids. It’s _natural_ and they can thumb their nose at Big Pharma at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422/7 "2014-06-23T09:55:24Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > I. Really. Do. NOT. Get. This. The school is refusing to let them perform the duties of [their religion](http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Nurgle#.U6f4pFdu4jE). ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422/8 "2014-06-23T12:26:30Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Um, did you have a stroke??😕 I’m confused because that sure _looked_ awfully unintentional yet you still managed to hit the “Post New Thread” button. That’s what happens when you are unvaccinated. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422/9 "2014-06-23T14:32:09Z")
Actually, that’s what happens when you are too lazy to post a coherent OP and just drum your fingers on the middle row of your keyboard. Expecting coherency and thought from **kstarnes** is a mug’s game. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422/10 "2014-06-23T14:39:05Z")
> [@kstarnes](#): > > …bljlasd blah ljksjksdjklsdjlksljk fk > sdjfklsfjklsd fjkljklsdjkl sdfjlksdjlfk sdjlkf sdjklfsdjklfjsdklfj klsdjklf sdjkl sdjklfd. Everything prior to this point seems to be gibberish. Could you please repost? ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422/11 "2014-06-23T14:40:24Z")
In reality, Kuntz and Cheeks are only separated by one asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422/12 "2014-06-23T15:07:54Z")
> [@kstarnes](#): > > … bljlasd blah ljksjksdjklsdjlksljk fk > sdjfklsfjklsd fjkljklsdjkl sdfjlksdjlfk sdjlkf sdjklfsdjklfjsdklfj klsdjklf sdjkl sdjklfd. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > Everything prior to this point seems to be gibberish. Could you please repost? To be fair, the “blah” was crystal clear. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422/13 "2014-06-23T15:44:50Z")
**kstarnes** is a babbling moron. He’s a sexist, anti-Semitic, racist dimwit. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422/14 "2014-06-23T15:47:25Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > **kstarnes** is a babbling moron. He’s a sexist, anti-Semitic, racist dimwit. And your point is … ? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422/15 "2014-06-23T15:56:03Z")
Still no vaccine for stupid I see… ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422/16 "2014-06-23T16:00:40Z")
> [@kstarnes](#): > > In a legal battle some have dubbed ‘Kuntz vs. Cheeks,’ the judge rules in favor of the city on its vaccination policy. Please let “some” know that this might have had a chance at approaching the general vicinity of funny— albeit in the most juvenile form imaginable— if the woman’s surname was actually “Cheeks.” It doesn’t really work if the joke relies on your own illiteracy, which may not be shared by some in your audience. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422/17 "2014-06-23T16:17:57Z")
I’m having a hard time locating the opinion online. Anyone have a link? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422/18 "2014-06-23T16:21:57Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Expecting coherency and thought from **kstarnes** is a mug’s game. Right. He’s actually saved everybody (and himself) a bunch of time by typing straight-up gibberish instead of typing his usual incoherent sexist nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422/19 "2014-06-23T16:27:39Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > Still no vaccine for stupid I see… Those who are most in need of it are against it. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422/20 "2014-06-23T16:31:09Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > Still no vaccine for stupid I see… Yep. Case in point, the plaintiff’s name, as given in the link is **Check** , not **Cheeks**. P.S. The only one who has “dubbed” the case, “Kuntz vs. Cheeks” is young Master **kstarnes**. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-york-times-reports-that-judge-kuntz-has-ruled-against-ms-cheeks/691422.md?page=2)