# The Newsroom is coming back (for more punishment?)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 10, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171 "2013-07-10T20:13:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/281 "2013-09-11T14:59:53Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> You can get unemployment when you have a job?

A)She ended up not being eligible because she didn’t work for us long enough before she started trying to work the system

B)If your hours are cut, you can get unemployment to fill in the gap.

C)If you have two part time jobs and lose one, you can get unemployment for that one. You’ll see people that will lose one of their jobs, but won’t want to pick up the hours at the other job, that’s usually the reason. Never understood that. If you were making $10.00 an hour, you can go back to work for $10.00 an hour or you can sit on your ass and collect unemployment at about $2.50 an hour. As long as it’s (typically) barely enough to swing rent, why not work since you can’t afford to do anything.

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**Author:** ![Indyellen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/indyellen/32/4176_2.png) [@Indyellen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indyellen)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/282 "2013-09-11T16:45:30Z")

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Y’all are making me nitpick the Genoa story too much. Another plot hole: If Charlie could see the giant “Fuck You” in the middle of the manifest when he held it over a table lamp, then how the hell did they SCAN it without that showing up? Obviously, they scanned it because it was part of the Red Team’s slideshow.

Dammit.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/283 "2013-09-11T17:03:25Z")

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> [@Indyellen](#):
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> Y’all are making me nitpick the Genoa story too much. Another plot hole: If Charlie could see the giant “Fuck You” in the middle of the manifest when he held it over a table lamp, then how the hell did they SCAN it without that showing up? Obviously, they scanned it because it was part of the Red Team’s slideshow.
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> Dammit.

Well, I’m sure there was a script meeting where someone with technical knowledge tried to explain this, but Sorkin just kept talking about his failed relationships.

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/284 "2013-09-11T17:06:57Z")

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> [@Indyellen](#):
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> Y’all are making me nitpick the Genoa story too much. Another plot hole: If Charlie could see the giant “Fuck You” in the middle of the manifest when he held it over a table lamp, then how the hell did they SCAN it without that showing up? Obviously, they scanned it because it was part of the Red Team’s slideshow.
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> Dammit.

I thought the guy who gave it to him told Charlie to hold it over a light for X seconds. This would indicate that the invisible message was made visible by exposure to a heat source.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/285 "2013-09-11T17:08:07Z")

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> [@Indyellen](#):
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> Y’all are making me nitpick the Genoa story too much. Another plot hole: If Charlie could see the giant “Fuck You” in the middle of the manifest when he held it over a table lamp, then how the hell did they SCAN it without that showing up? Obviously, they scanned it because it was part of the Red Team’s slideshow.
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> Dammit.

You can see something on a scan/photocopy that you need a backlight to view. Go photocopy a twenty dollar bill and try to see the watermark.

That’s why you need a different type of scanner for slides.

Or what randwill said, which is what I thought the case was, now that I think of it.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/286 "2013-09-11T17:23:20Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> I thought the guy who gave it to him told Charlie to hold it over a light for X seconds. This would indicate that the invisible message was made visible by exposure to a heat source.

Yes- the classic “lemon juice” type of secret writing. (I don’t know if it was lemon juice, per se, but you get the idea.)

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/287 "2013-09-11T17:34:45Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Yes- the classic “lemon juice” type of secret writing. (I don’t know if it was lemon juice, per se, but you get the idea.)

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/aygrz65o1tk/hqdefault.jpg "Dwight Schrute (Rainn Wilson) talking about invisible ink") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aygrz65o1tk)

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/288 "2013-09-11T18:03:44Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aygrz65o1tk#t=5s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aygrz65o1tk#t=5s)

Would that count as biological warfare???

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/289 "2013-09-11T20:30:17Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> I thought the guy who gave it to him told Charlie to hold it over a light for X seconds. This would indicate that the invisible message was made visible by exposure to a heat source.

Isn’t Sorkin a liberal? Who has hot light bulbs anymore; aren’t they all CFL now?

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/290 "2013-09-11T20:45:57Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Isn’t Sorkin a liberal? Who has hot light bulbs anymore; aren’t they all CFL now?

Some of us still use incandescent bulb because CFLs flicker and have funky light spectrums. I’ve gone so far as to remove all the ceiling fluorescent bulbs around me at work for these very reasons.

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**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/291 "2013-09-16T11:33:21Z")

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Last night finale was clearly written (and possibly produced) before the show was confirmed for season three right?

It seemed like a wrap up to the show. Now we’ll have to go through a season of Will and Mac finding a way NOT to be together.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/292 "2013-09-16T11:43:46Z")

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Or the issue of their will-they, wont-they will be shelved, their relationship will exist in the background of the show and that distraction will be off the table.

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**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/293 "2013-09-16T11:55:08Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Or the issue of their will-they, wont-they will be shelved, their relationship will exist in the background of the show and that distraction will be off the table.

That would be very un-TV like, although I’d certainly welcome that.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/294 "2013-09-16T11:59:26Z")

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I’m sorry, but the story about the incorrect information on Mack’s Wikipedia page drives me crazy because it’s so wrong. First, they said that a “page editor” rejected the correction. There’s no such thing. Second, there _already_ is a page on Wikipedia that lists all of the past presidents of the Cambridge Union. And I’ll bet that when someone is appointed/elected/chosen president of the Cambridge Union, that fact is reported somewhere; a student newspaper at Cambridge, the Times of London, The Guardian, the local daily newspaper in Cambridge, _somewhere_. This should not be that difficult. It’s just so fake.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/295 "2013-09-16T17:12:35Z")

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Anyone else think Don dropping Maggie and getting Sloan is the best trade since Peter Minuit?

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**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/296 "2013-09-16T21:50:02Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Anyone else think Don dropping Maggie and getting Sloan is the best trade since Peter Minuit?

I’d drop Maggie for the family dog.

Seriously, Maggie isn’t attractive, isn’t sexy, isn’t smart and is a bag of worms.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/297 "2013-09-16T22:11:51Z")

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I chuckled at the Sloan stifling, culminating with “Are you doing this on purpose now?” “No, it’s just working out unbelievably well.” It’s the first time I’ve seen that bit from Sorkin so please don’t ruin it and explain how he did it on both Sportsnight and West Wing. (Neither of which I watched.)

One line from last week I loved but forgot to mention was shown again in the “previously on” opener: “I want to accept your resignation.” “So why don’t you?” “Because my mom won’t let me.” Chris Messina delivered that line so perfectly.

The scene with Will’s cathartic revenge on Mac was overwrought but still good. And, as far as it goes, a genuinely plausible catalyst to drive Will to propose. But man was that kiss at the end awkward as hell. We’re talking Al and Tipper Gore awkward.

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**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/298 "2013-09-17T02:02:34Z")

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I was surprised that I liked these last two episodes, especially the finale, much more than pretty much all of the other episodes put together. Maybe my expectations were low? Probably more because the things they were taking so seriously were comically minor. If it continues like this next season, I might end up really liking the show.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/299 "2013-09-17T02:40:36Z")

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> I was surprised that I liked these last two episodes, especially the finale, much more than pretty much all of the other episodes put together.

I agree–these last two episodes were much better than those earlier in the season.

Sloan’s scenes are usually my favorites in any given episode, and last night was no exception. The aforementioned scenes of Will repeatedly cutting her off on the air made me LOL when she finally blew up–“Oh, COME ON!” And the bit when she figured out that Don was the one who bought her book was great, too.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/300 "2013-09-17T14:36:20Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> One line from last week I loved but forgot to mention was shown again in the “previously on” opener: “I want to accept your resignation.” “So why don’t you?” “Because my mom won’t let me.” Chris Messina delivered that line so perfectly.

He always throws me off, because when ever I see him I think of Schmidt from New Girl. Also, I enjoyed the “I reject your resignation.” “I already withdrew it.” argument with Charlie.

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