# The Newsroom is coming back (for more punishment?)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 10, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171 "2013-07-10T20:13:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
**Page:** 16

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/301 "2013-09-17T15:17:17Z")

</div>

> [@EllisDee](#):
>
> But man was that kiss at the end awkward as hell. We’re talking Al and Tipper Gore awkward.

LOL! But very true. 😃

> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
>
> I was surprised that I liked these last two episodes, especially the finale, much more than pretty much all of the other episodes put together.

> [@Tangent](#):
>
> I agree–these last two episodes were much better than those earlier in the season.

Thirded. My TiVo is usually pretty full on Monday evenings (a lot of shows that I like air on Sunday night), and last night – for the first time – I wanted to watch _The Newsroom_ first. And then I was a little sad when I remembered I was watching the season finale.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/302 "2013-09-17T16:58:37Z")

</div>

> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
>
> He always throws me off, because when ever I see him I think of Schmidt from New Girl. Also, I enjoyed the “I reject your resignation.” “I already withdrew it.” argument with Charlie.

You mean that Chris Messina resembles Max Greenfield?

I was sure you were going to say the doctor he plays on The Mindy Project, which airs right after New Girl on the same network. Going one show earlier and picking an actor that isn’t him was going a different direction, for sure.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/303 "2013-09-17T17:05:54Z")

</div>

> [@Tangent](#):
>
> Sloan’s scenes are usually my favorites in any given episode, and last night was no exception. The aforementioned scenes of Will repeatedly cutting her off on the air made me LOL when she finally blew up–“Oh, COME ON!” And the bit when she figured out that Don was the one who bought her book was great, too.

Agreed. Apparently I’ve comment on Sloan once too often because my wife shouted, “I get it. You’ve got the hots for her” at me while we were watching. Who doesn’t, right?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/304 "2013-09-17T18:00:56Z")

</div>

> [@EllisDee](#):
>
> You mean that Chris Messina resembles Max Greenfield?
> 
> I was sure you were going to say the doctor he plays on The Mindy Project, which airs right after New Girl on the same network. Going one show earlier and picking an actor that isn’t him was going a different direction, for sure.

Yep, I’ve never seen The Mindy Project. The first time he made appearance I thought, “Is that Schmidt?” I’ve never been able to shake it since then.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/305 "2013-09-18T11:43:04Z")

</div>

Watched the last ep via DVR. So - did they ever broadcast the story about the candidate that said misogynist things in the 1990’s - or was that just used to give them an example of “doing the right thing” by not trading for the Petraeus story?

What was the point of Jane Fonda being stoned both nights? Her need to let her son decide as a right of passage made sense regardless.

Why didn’t Marcia Gay Harden’s lawyer make more of a play for Sam/Charlie? She was wanting compliments from everyone on her dress last ep, but seemed to be really coming on to him specifically last ep…

Overall, it still delivers a decent shot of Craft-y Drama Writing but not in nearly as satisfying as other Sorkin stuff. The plot and the characters’ entanglements still seem contrived and manipulative. Hard to view in contrast to the current Golden Show, Breaking Bad - it, too, has a plot that seems “inevitable” in its arc, but the craft of the show keeps it feeling fresh…

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/306 "2013-09-18T12:52:51Z")

</div>

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
>
> Anyone else think Don dropping Maggie and getting Sloan is the best trade since Peter Minuit?

Yes. That’s one hell of an upgrade.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/307 "2013-09-18T15:00:48Z")

</div>

> [@drastic\_quench](#):
>
> Yes. That’s one hell of an upgrade.

Totally. In every way that I can imagine

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/308 "2013-09-18T16:17:45Z")

</div>

> [@WordMan](#):
>
> Watched the last ep via DVR. So - did they ever broadcast the story about the candidate that said misogynist things in the 1990’s - or was that just used to give them an example of “doing the right thing” by not trading for the Petraeus story?

I thought they did air it- it was an example of airing a story that’s relevant and important (with an election going on) even to just a subset of the population, vs airing a story that wasn’t as important in the moment.

But we had just finished watching Breaking Bad, so I wasn’t concentrating so very well.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/309 "2013-09-18T18:51:01Z")

</div>

> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
>
> I thought they did air it- it was an example of airing a story that’s relevant and important (with an election going on) even to just a subset of the population, vs airing a story that wasn’t as important in the moment.
> 
> But we had just finished watching Breaking Bad, so I wasn’t concentrating so very well.

No - I get that that they _chose_ that relevant story vs. Petraeus; I just can’t recall if we saw anything showing, say, one of the newscasters actually talking about it on air…

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/310 "2013-09-18T18:56:20Z")

</div>

Save me from re-watching the last episode (and all the others before it) and just tell me what Sloan saw that made her figure out Don bought the book. Something on the poster?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/311 "2013-09-18T18:59:14Z")

</div>

> [@MikeF](#):
>
> Save me from re-watching the last episode (and all the others before it) and just tell me what Sloan saw that made her figure out Don bought the book. Something on the poster?

Neal discovers that at the auction, the price was run up using fictional names, to get the book sold at a price Sloan would like. One of the fictional names is of Tony Curtis’ character from Sweet Smell of Success. Sloan sees the poster in his office. Boom.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/312 "2013-09-18T18:59:31Z")

</div>

> [@MikeF](#):
>
> Save me from re-watching the last episode (and all the others before it) and just tell me what Sloan saw that made her figure out Don bought the book. Something on the poster?

It was a movie poster for a movie whose characters were the same that had a bidding war for her book (the pseudonyms that were used).

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/313 "2013-09-18T19:32:32Z")

</div>

> [@WordMan](#):
>
> No - I get that that they _chose_ that relevant story vs. Petraeus; I just can’t recall if we saw anything showing, say, one of the newscasters actually talking about it on air…

Nope. They had already repeated the story three times to us, Sorkin probably figured we didn’t need to see it again.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/314 "2013-09-18T19:34:28Z")

</div>

> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
>
> Nope. They had already repeated the story three times to us, Sorkin probably figured we didn’t need to see it again.

Got it; I thought so. Seems sloppy; I would’ve looked for a scene focused on the principle characters and plot, but with an over-the-shoulder of the DC bitchy newscaster on the air with the story - just to show the closure…

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/315 "2013-09-19T11:22:21Z")

</div>

Um doesn’t Will have a girlfriend?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/316 "2013-09-19T16:20:29Z")

</div>

> [@Frylock](#):
>
> Um doesn’t Will have a girlfriend?

I never got the impression he was actually ever into tabloid lady-- it seems like it was a FWB thing that just became more regular. Even she commented that he was still in love with Mac.

I suspect the woman scorned will be a plot line next season though.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/317 "2013-09-19T18:36:34Z")

</div>

No, they broke up a few episodes ago.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171/318 "2013-09-19T19:00:03Z")

</div>

Jeff Daniels should get in shape before they start filming the next season - if that hasn’t happened already. That was the jowliest kiss I’ve seen in a long while.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-newsroom-is-coming-back-for-more-punishment/663171.md?page=15)
