# The (NJ) Record Newspaper Local News 9/11/08 headline: 7 years for necrophilia **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2008, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nj-record-newspaper-local-news-9-11-08-headline-7-years-for-necrophilia/463092 "2008-09-11T12:52:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Zany\_Zeolite\_Zipper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/4af34b/32.png) [@Zany\_Zeolite\_Zipper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zany_Zeolite_Zipper)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nj-record-newspaper-local-news-9-11-08-headline-7-years-for-necrophilia/463092/81 "2008-09-14T03:39:27Z")
Hmm, would fucking a beef heart be necrophilic bestiality? What if it was a same sex beef heart? homosexual necrophilic bestiality? Cows can’t be more than eighteen years when they are killed so: pedophilic homosexual necrophilic bestiality. If it was your pet cow: incestuous pedophilic homosexual necrophilic bestiality:eek:. I wonder how many years you get for that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nj-record-newspaper-local-news-9-11-08-headline-7-years-for-necrophilia/463092/82 "2008-09-14T04:23:43Z")
**Kinthalis** , I’m amazed at how dismissive you are of emotional pain. Do you think that it’s not “real” pain? I’ve had both physical pain and emotional pain that made me wish for my own death. I knew that the physical pain would get better every day. That made it bearable. The intense emotional pain lasted for less than twenty-four hours and I wasn’t rational. After I was put to sleep for the next twenty-four hours, I could function. You really aren’t in a position to judge the pain someone else feels even by a symbolic act. If a body once housed the spirit of someone who was greatly loved, the chances are that _someone_ is going to have feelings about the remains. It will never just be a “slab of meat” anymore than it was when it was living. That’s why bodies are cremated and the ashes strewn in a garden rather than flushed down a toilet. If it doesn’t matter to you, you are an exception and that’s fine. Just don’t project your needs onto society as a whole. Most cultures have developed death rituals independently and for good reason. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nj-record-newspaper-local-news-9-11-08-headline-7-years-for-necrophilia/463092/83 "2008-09-14T04:24:48Z")
> [@Zany\_Zeolite\_Zipper](#): > > Hmm, would fucking a beef heart be necrophilic bestiality? > > What if it was a same sex beef heart? homosexual necrophilic bestiality? > > Cows can’t be more than eighteen years when they are killed so: pedophilic homosexual necrophilic bestiality. > > If it was your pet cow: incestuous pedophilic homosexual necrophilic bestiality:eek:. I wonder how many years you get for that. 🙂 Wait. I see what you did there, but > [@](#): > > incestuous pedophilic homosexual necrophilic bestiality:eek:. > incestuous pedophilic homosexual necrophilic bestiality > incestuous pedophilic homosexual necrophilic > incestuous pedophilic homosexual > incestuous pedophilic > incestuous How are you related to your pets? o.O ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nj-record-newspaper-local-news-9-11-08-headline-7-years-for-necrophilia/463092/84 "2008-09-14T11:30:22Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > So if a baby dies, the family is perfectly within their rights to invite you to dinner and serve the child on a bed of wild rice as the main course, with baby peas, carrots and corn on the side? Mmm. Tasty. Makes we want to start a cannibal diner, on the high seas past the territorial limit. Dine on the finest prepared human flesh. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nj-record-newspaper-local-news-9-11-08-headline-7-years-for-necrophilia/463092/85 "2008-09-14T14:36:38Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > Wait. > > I see what you did there, but > > How are you related to your pets? o.O Pet cow = family member Screwing your adopted sister is still incest (in some people’s books). ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nj-record-newspaper-local-news-9-11-08-headline-7-years-for-necrophilia/463092/86 "2008-09-14T15:39:31Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Pet cow = family member > > Screwing your adopted sister is still incest (in some people’s books). Interesting. I wouldn’t call that incest. I know someone who grew up in a foster family and did just that. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nj-record-newspaper-local-news-9-11-08-headline-7-years-for-necrophilia/463092/87 "2008-09-14T16:57:30Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > **Kinthalis** , I’m amazed at how dismissive you are of emotional pain. I’m not being dismissive. I just don’t think emotional pain, no matter how large deserves a decade in jail. How on earth could you possibly think it does? Emotional pain is by definition relative and arbitrary. Some people feel emotional pain because you don’t wish them a merry Christmas. Can you name some other law that requires one to spend a decade in jail for inflicting emotional pain on someone? I can certainly see a lawsuit stemming from this kind of incident, but a decade in jail for hurting granny’s feelings? Still boggling my mind that people think this way. ---
**Author:** ![mudkicker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@mudkicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mudkicker)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nj-record-newspaper-local-news-9-11-08-headline-7-years-for-necrophilia/463092/88 "2008-09-15T10:59:57Z")
Seven years in jail is way too much. Any further jail time is too much, given that he’s been in jail since last October, has been identified as a necropheliac (sp?) and is barred from working in hospitals and morgues, I assume for life. But I think it’s easy to miss the point here. Sure, once you’re dead you can’t give or deny consent, so whether the 92 year old woman was ‘hurt’ or ‘defiled’ isn’t the issue. Her family were very hurt though, and this is bound to affect their memories of her even to a small extent. That’s the reason what this guy did was wrong. It’s a mental health rather than a criminal issue though, and he shouldn’t be in jail, certainly not for as long as seven years when as other posters have pointed out many people get less than this for actual rape. But let’s not say ‘no-one was hurt’ because the person he chose to stick his dick into was dead. I’d be very upset if that happened to my mum (myself, not so much\*), and I think that’s a pretty normal reaction. \*Yes, yes, I know I’m dead, but I mean if I knew now someone would do that to me after death, y’pedants. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nj-record-newspaper-local-news-9-11-08-headline-7-years-for-necrophilia/463092/89 "2008-09-15T12:26:03Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > Mmm. Tasty. > > Makes we want to start a cannibal diner, on the high seas past the territorial limit. Dine on the finest prepared human flesh. > > 🆒 Go for it. Apparently [Kuru](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_(disease)) is extinct, so no cause for concern there. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nj-record-newspaper-local-news-9-11-08-headline-7-years-for-necrophilia/463092/90 "2008-09-15T12:51:10Z")
> [@neutron star](#): > > So if it was your mother, someone fucking her corpse wouldn’t bother you any more than a drunk teenager kicking over her gravestone? > [@Zoe](#): > > ``` > Kinthalis, I'm amazed at how dismissive you are of emotional pain. Do you think that it's not "real" pain? I've had both physical pain and emotional pain that made me wish for my own death. I knew that the physical pain would get better every day. That made it bearable. The intense emotional pain lasted for less than twenty-four hours and I wasn't rational. After I was put to sleep for the next twenty-four hours, I could function. > > ``` > [@Jolly Roger](#): > > I don’t particularly like violence, but I’m prepared to use it if I have to. (I’m expected to, being a soldier and all). If god forbid my wife died and I somehow caught you screwing the corpse I’d kill you before I knew what I was doing…and I managed to not go into a full Klingon/Luskan/Worf/Ka D’Argo Bloodrage I’d damn sure cripple you. > > …and i’d bet that I wouldn’t be charged with beating you up (or killing you as long as I can convince a jury that I was maddened with rage) . So what other crimes do you feel should be punished based strictly on how upset the victim’s family is? Like I said earlier, if someone damaged my property I’d probably want to hurt them, badly. That’s why we have a legal system that determines punishments dispassionately, rather than the vigilante justice for the victim or their family to get even, which you all seem to want. ---
**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nj-record-newspaper-local-news-9-11-08-headline-7-years-for-necrophilia/463092/91 "2008-09-15T14:10:35Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > Interesting. I wouldn’t call that incest. I know someone who grew up in a foster family and did just that. They had sex with a dead cow? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nj-record-newspaper-local-news-9-11-08-headline-7-years-for-necrophilia/463092/92 "2008-09-15T14:16:08Z")
> [@Terrifel](#): > > They had sex with a dead cow? You calling bull? ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nj-record-newspaper-local-news-9-11-08-headline-7-years-for-necrophilia/463092/93 "2008-09-15T15:01:10Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > You calling bull? I guess they were just horny. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nj-record-newspaper-local-news-9-11-08-headline-7-years-for-necrophilia/463092.md?page=4)