# The Noble Prize and fucking China **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 19, 2010, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658 "2010-10-19T14:38:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658/1 "2010-10-19T14:38:00Z")
The Nobel Peace Prize is a fucking joke. But instead of just ignoring the silly Norwegian fools like the rest of the world, the Chinese has shown themselves to be even more of a fucking joke. > [@](#): > > Chinese Zhao Fei (26), who confessed of having killed Norwegian Pernille Marie Thronsen in Budapest, was set free from prison in China. Now, it is speculated that decision is related to China’s reaction to the Nobel Peace Prize. [China Sets Murderer Free : A Nobel Prize Message?](http://www.tnp.no/2038-china-sets-murderer-free-a-nobel-prize-messageij) [Fei was released on the same day that the Nobel Peace Prize was announced](http://www.dunatv.hu/english/news/outside_hungary/chinese_police_releases_murder_suspect.html) - releasing the murderer of an innocent young girl, because you disagree with the decision of a completely separate private organisation. Fucking joke on China. Hope you don’t expect us to take you serious anytime soon. Here’s the girl: [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://imgur.com/2jW43.jpg) And here’s a bonus fucking joke on China link: [6 of 10 Chinese demand Norway apologize: “more than 75 percent of respondents had no idea who the winner of this year’s Nobel Peace Prize was.”](http://china.globaltimes.cn/society/2010-10/582916.html) - even their fucking state media is a fucking joke. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658/2 "2010-10-19T15:21:22Z")
Why did you feel it necessary to include a picture of the girl? ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658/3 "2010-10-19T15:26:42Z")
Because the article already had a picture of the murderer, which anyway I wanted to duplicate for Google. And here’s more for Google: Zhao Fei. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658/4 "2010-10-19T15:28:58Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > the Chinese has shown themselves to be even more of a fucking joke. Wasn’t that part of the reason they gave the prize to Xiaobo in the first place? It drew attention to their imprisonment of an activist and provoked them into doing other stupid things. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658/5 "2010-10-19T15:32:03Z")
Anybody who managed to fuck all of China should get the Nobel Piece Prize. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658/6 "2010-10-19T15:32:40Z")
Well, i’m not especially interested in defending China’s justice system, and it does seem that the guy left behind a fair amount of incriminating evidence, but i’m going to need a bit more than those two fairly useless news stories before i accept that there’s a connection between the guy’s release and the issue of the Nobel Prize. Look at the quote you give in your OP. > [@](#): > > Now, it is speculated that decision is related to China’s reaction to the Nobel Peace Prize. Classic weasel words. Speculated by whom? The very same article never tells us. It does tell us that the girl’s parents find the release “offensive,” but there is no evidence anywhere in that article connecting the release to the issue of the Nobel Prize. There’s really very little actual news about this case available, although i did find one suggestive piece of information: > [@](#): > > The authorities said they can not hold the suspect for more than 30 days without evidence. However, Hungary has not sent evidence of the suspect’s guilt to China, as he may face the death penalty there. [Link](http://www.hatc.hu/editor_article.php?aid=2997) So, if this is true, here’s what we know about the case: [ul] [li] the murder was committed in Hungary[/li][li] the guy was arrested in China[/li][li] the guy was held by Chinese authorities[/li][li] the authorities from the nation where the murder took place did not send evidence of the suspect’s guilt to Chinese authorities[/li][li] none of the stories i could find say that Hungary actually request extradition[/li][li] the guy was released after 30 days, as per Chinese law[/li][/ul]Just what else would you expect China to do under these circumstances? Should they be responsible for holding and placing on trial one of their own citizens for a crime that happened on the other side of the world? ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658/7 "2010-10-19T15:33:51Z")
I dunno… The article said they held him for the maximum time they could and then released him, supposedly due to lack of co-ooperation from Hungarian officals. If the thirty day mark really does fall on the day the Nobel was announced, I think you have to at least consider that it was just co-incidence. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658/8 "2010-10-19T15:37:00Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > The Nobel Peace Prize is a fucking joke. 😕 WTF?! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658/9 "2010-10-19T15:48:13Z")
Consider the source. **Rune** is not particularly a liberal, and the committee has awarded it to people whom he does not agree with politically. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658/10 "2010-10-19T15:52:09Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > The Nobel Peace Prize is a fucking joke. How the fuck so, asswipe? ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658/11 "2010-10-19T15:52:26Z")
Before accepting any prize, check the spelling. If it says “Noble prize” on it, that’s a sign that it may not be a genuine Nobel prize but just a cheap Chinese knock-off. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658/12 "2010-10-19T15:53:59Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > How the fuck so, asswipe? See post #9. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658/13 "2010-10-19T16:03:45Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Consider the source. **Rune** is not particularly a liberal, and the committee has awarded it to people whom he does not agree with politically. **Rune** also has a habit of going off half-cocked with incoherent rants that have far more noise than substance, which is why i’ll wait for some actual evidence from some actual decent news sources before accepting his half-assed assertions. And posting the picture of the victim was simply gratuitous nonsense that makes the OP look like even more of a douchebag. If the guy committed murder, he committed murder. I don’t care if the victim is a cute blonde woman or an ugly middle-aged guy. Because you just know that **Rune** wouldn’t have posted the victim’s picture in the latter case. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658/14 "2010-10-19T16:06:06Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > See post #9. Ahh, it’s because he’s a conservative, and everyone knows they all have short dicks. I see! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658/15 "2010-10-19T16:45:40Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > How the fuck so, asswipe? Too many useless US presidents, waste of fucking space just like you, although my personal favourite is the biologist Muta Maathai who thinks AIDS is a disease created by evil scientist in the West to kill Africans. Anyway this is OT. > [@mhendo](#): > > **Rune** also has a habit of going off half-cocked with incoherent rants that have far more noise than substance, which is why i’ll wait for some actual evidence from some actual decent news sources before accepting his half-assed assertions. You are too stupid to read, so it’s not like you would know. > [@mhendo](#): > > And posting the picture of the victim was simply gratuitous nonsense that makes the OP look like even more of a douchebag. If the guy committed murder, he committed murder. I don’t care if the victim is a cute blonde woman or an ugly middle-aged guy. Because you just know that **Rune** wouldn’t have posted the victim’s picture in the latter case. Perhaps not but you are an idiot so who gives a shit what you say, and anyway you don’t care so you can fuck off. I also happen to think it is wrong that the murderer always gets more attention than the victim. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658/16 "2010-10-19T17:14:47Z")
So douchebag, do you have any actual evidence that there is a connection between this case and the Nobel Prize? Or are you just spouting shit, as usual? And here’s a little hypothetical for you: Say a murder occurred in, for example, the United States. And say that a Dutch citizen was a suspect. The Dutch citizen returns to the Netherlands, where he allegedly tells police that he did it. The United States does not apply for extradition of this person, and provides the Dutch government with no actual evidence that the Dutch citizen committed the crime. How long should the Dutch hold this guy, for a crime committed halfway across the world, and for which the authorities in the place where it was committed have provided no evidence? And should they put him on trial for a crime committed outside of their jurisdiction, and for which they have no physical evidence and no witnesses? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658/17 "2010-10-19T17:28:25Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Consider the source. **Rune** is not particularly a liberal, and the committee has awarded it to people whom he does not agree with politically. Well, until they start giving out a Nobel Prize for War or Oppression, the committee’s options there are kinda limited. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658/18 "2010-10-19T18:02:32Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Well, until they start giving out a Nobel Prize for War or Oppression, the committee’s options there are kinda limited. Obama won the Peace Prize despite occupying two countries, expanding drone bombing and clandestine operations in other countries, and torture. He has the blood of thousands on his hands. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658/19 "2010-10-19T18:08:19Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > Too many useless US presidents, waste of fucking space just like you, although my personal favourite is the biologist Muta Maathai who thinks AIDS is a disease created by evil scientist in the West to kill Africans. Of course, Maathai has denied ever saying that, so perhaps you’re the waste of fucking space. ---
**Author:** ![Redpill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Redpill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redpill)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658/20 "2010-10-19T18:22:27Z")
If Obama can get a Nobel Peace Prize, all bets are off. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-noble-prize-and-fucking-china/557658.md?page=2)