# The not-so-wonderful thing about Tigger....

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 3, 2004, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008 "2004-04-03T02:37:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008/1 "2004-04-03T02:37:26Z")

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[Is this one is a molester.](http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/South/04/02/disney.arrest/index.html)

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**Author:** ![OneYogini](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b9e5f3/32.png) [@OneYogini](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneYogini)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008/2 "2004-04-03T02:54:45Z")

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The wonderful thing about Tiggers  
Is Tiggers are wonderful things  
Their tops are made out of rubber  
Their bottoms are made out of springs  
They’re bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy  
Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun  
But the most wonderful thing about Tiggers  
Is I’m the only one

The wonderful thing about Tiggers  
Is Tiggers are wonderful chaps  
They’re loaded with vim and with vigor  
They love to leap in your laps  
They’re bouncy, trouncy, flouncy pouncy  
Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun  
But the most wonderful thing about Tiggers  
Is I’m the only one

Tiggers are wonderful fellahs  
Tiggers are awfully sweet  
Everyone elses is jealous  
And thats why I repeat  
The wonderful thing about Tiggers  
Is Tiggers are wonderful things  
Their tops are made out of rubber  
Their bottoms are made out of springs  
They’re bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy  
Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun  
But the most wonderful thing about Tiggers  
Is I’m the only one  
Yes, I’m the only one  
(Grrrrrr…)

Dammit man! Tarnishing the good name of Tigger! Anyway…the mom doesn’t remember being fondled but the 13-year old does; it takes 8 days for them to actually discuss and do something about it; and the “Tigger” says his dyslexia creates memory issues?? I wonder how the picture turned out.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008/3 "2004-04-03T03:05:58Z")

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Does this bother anybody else?

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> Neither reacted at the time, but the girl later told her parents she had been fondled, and eight days later the family filed a report with the Orange County Sheriff.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008/4 "2004-04-03T03:11:48Z")

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Dyslexia causes memory loss? Since WHEN? (Or does it?)

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008/5 "2004-04-03T03:15:12Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Dyslexia causes memory loss? Since WHEN? (Or does it?)

I don’t wonk…

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**Author:** ![OneYogini](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b9e5f3/32.png) [@OneYogini](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneYogini)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008/6 "2004-04-03T03:21:34Z")

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> [@spooje](#):
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> Does this bother anybody else?

…it did me…

> [@OneYogini](#):
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> Anyway…the mom doesn’t remember being fondled but the 13-year old does; it takes 8 days for them to actually discuss and do something about it; and the “Tigger” says his dyslexia creates memory issues??

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**Author:** ![OneYogini](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b9e5f3/32.png) [@OneYogini](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneYogini)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008/7 "2004-04-03T03:23:55Z")

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hmmm…

> **[A Dyslexic Child in the Classroom](https://www.dyslexia.com/about-dyslexia/understanding-dyslexia/guide-for-classroom-teachers/)**
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> A Guide for Teachers and Parents Proficient reading is an essential tool for learning a large part of the subject …

“…Of particular importance is an understanding of the problems that poor auditory short term memory can cause, in terms of retaining input…”

muy interesante!

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008/8 "2004-04-03T03:28:56Z")

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Honestly, how much fondling can you do in one of those giant theme park suits?

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**Author:** ![The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008/9 "2004-04-03T03:41:46Z")

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Wow. Furries and pedophilia all in one blow. I think we have a winner.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008/10 "2004-04-03T03:57:20Z")

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I’m sure there is no alterior motive here. I’m sure they’ve heard the news of Disney’s financial troubles, Eisner operatics, and gate price increases. The old “deep pockets” addage can’t stand up to scrutiny here. Nope. Move right along…

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008/11 "2004-04-03T04:56:20Z")

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T!  
I!  
Double-GUH  
ER!!

Sorry, I just had to do that. Cutest spelling ever!

(We have a cat named Bree, that we nicknamed Breester (B! R! Double-E! STER!), and she likes to “dig” into blankets, so we sing to her:

“How to be a Digger, how to be a Digger, how to be a Digger is up to Bree!”

She tend to walk away from us when we do that…)

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008/12 "2004-04-03T05:05:57Z")

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I’m sorry, but that guy in the Tigger suit is just creepy. And here I thought that the characters were all harmless college students, usually girls. Yuck!

[http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/goto/?getPage=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.orlandosentinel.com%2Fnews%2Flocal%2Forl-bk-tigger040204%2C0%2C396560.story%3Fcoll%3Dorl-home-headlines&return=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.drudgereportarchives.com%2Fdsp%2Fsearch.htm%3FsearchFor%3Ddisney](http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/goto/?getPage=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eorlandosentinel%2Ecom%2Fnews%2Flocal%2Forl%2Dbk%2Dtigger040204%2C0%2C396560%2Estory%3Fcoll%3Dorl%2Dhome%2Dheadlines&return=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edrudgereportarchives%2Ecom%2Fdsp%2Fsearch%2Ehtm%3FsearchFor%3Ddisney)

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**Author:** ![Club\_33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Club\_33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Club_33)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008/13 "2004-04-03T07:34:41Z")

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What I don’t understand is that, this guy is only a suspect at this point and for all anyone knows, maybe the girl is mistaken. If he is convicted, then he should be punished. Until then, is it really fair for his face to be on the front of CNN and every news station?

Just because he might look “creepy” doesn’t mean he is guilty of anything.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008/14 "2004-04-04T01:56:13Z")

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Based on my own experiences I’d say that most of the employees in costumes are more like [this guy.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=194834&)

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008/15 "2004-04-04T02:19:36Z")

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> [@spooje](#):
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> Does this bother anybody else?

Abso-fucking-lutely. The whole thing stinks. And why publish the ugliest, most menacing picture of the guy? Sheesh. 8 days to make a complaint? The daughter “later learned” that her mom experienced the same thing?

Oy the hysteria!

Sam

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008/16 "2004-04-04T03:51:55Z")

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Ok, here’s my completely unsubstantiated wild-ass conspiracy theory:

Chartrand (the creepy-looking accusee) recently filed some sort of grievance against his employers. Perhaps unfair wages or worker compensation, but more likely something that could generate serious negative publicity for Disney, like unsafe park conditions or some kind of illegal activity going on. Disney’s response to him (and an unspoken warning to all other potential whistle-blowers): he suddenly finds himself accused of a crime that, even if he can prove his innocence, immediately destroys his credibility in the media and possibly ruins his career.

Or maybe I just watch too many movies.

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**Author:** ![Amberlei](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@Amberlei](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amberlei)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008/17 "2004-04-04T05:43:05Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> [Is this one is a molester.](http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/South/04/02/disney.arrest/index.html)

I’m thinking this situation is a bit iffy. I’ve played Smokey the Bear before and if the Tigger costume hands are anything like Smokey’s hands, I just don’t see how any fondling could have happened. The hands are too bulky with padding for anything of that nature to occur. Sure he may have brushed their breasts inadvertently, but I doubt he was able to feel anything his hands touched. Try wearing your bulkiest gloves and then wrap your hands with a towel for a comparable feel.

I could be completely wrong and Tigger could have better designed hands, but it’s also very odd that it would take eight days for them to notify anyone. I smell something fishy here.

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**Author:** ![AngelicGemma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/439d5e/32.png) [@AngelicGemma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelicGemma)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008/18 "2004-04-04T15:14:24Z")

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Very wierd.

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**Author:** ![Kantalooppi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a5b964/32.png) [@Kantalooppi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kantalooppi)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008/19 "2004-04-04T16:12:28Z")

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Personally, I blame the fursuiting.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-not-so-wonderful-thing-about-tigger/238008/20 "2004-04-04T16:24:58Z")

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Tigger can (I believe), like most Disney suit characters, hold a pen to sign autographs. Giving him enough motion to cop a feel.

However, Tigger is followed constantly by a handler. Who keeps an eye on things at all times. If Tigger was inappropriately grabbing, you think he only did it once? And you think the handler wouldn’t have noticed repeated inappropriate behavior. Not to mention the nine zillion video cameras (the tourist ones, plus all the security cameras) at Disney would make you a complete idiot to act inappropriately in a suit.

(Not that the guy couldn’t be a complete idiot).

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