# The NRA trumifys their message in new ad

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 4, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494 "2017-07-04T14:37:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494/21 "2017-07-05T14:26:44Z")

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> [@Evan\_Drake](#):
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> Still, no more overblown than Alan Moore and the\*\* V For Vendetta\*\* crap that inspired the lesser Left and Anonymous a decade ago.

Moore wrote the _V for Vendetta_ stories in the 80s. The Bush/Cheney parallels in the film adaptation had nothing to do with him.

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**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494/22 "2017-07-05T15:38:58Z")

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So ? Anonymous and Occupy and the protest movement _were_ in the Bush/Cheney years. Not the 1980s.  
Not that I mentioned or thought of those two old criminals; nor ever do except to wish they were both permanent residents of Devil’s Island.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494/23 "2017-07-05T16:17:04Z")

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:D:DI guess I’m not a “Butt-Hurt Little Snowflake” anymore.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494/24 "2017-07-05T16:32:24Z")

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[quote=“Lucas\_Jackson, post:1, topic:790494”]

One of the (many) problems with Trumps lying and bullying - and not only getting away with it but flourishing through it - is that it empowers others to do the same.

The NRA is always a little over the top but this new ad looks like it was written by the White House. Disgusting.

[/QUOTE] This seems much more rant-y than opinion-seeking. Relocating to The Pit from IMHO.

Carry on.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494/25 "2017-07-05T16:38:02Z")

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> [@River\_Hippie](#):
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> I’m a supporter of the 2nd, and a longtime gun enthusiast but I do not support the NRA.
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> At all.

Ditto, ditto, fucking DITTO.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494/26 "2017-07-05T16:39:27Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> I’m still waiting for the NRA to release a statement on the Castillo verdict.

White lives matter … Castillo ain’t white

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494/27 "2017-07-05T16:46:32Z")

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So, basically, the Right Wing is triumphant in federal and state politics across the land, crime is still low except for hotspots like Chicago and Baltimore, there is no threat of a gun grab any time in the next 8 years, so the panic hoarding of guns and ammo has relaxed.

So now it’s time for a call to the people to arm themselves to crush the subversive thugs???

Jesus on a rollerskate, what dickery…

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494/28 "2017-07-05T17:28:36Z")

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I think the gun industry would be happiest if there were all-out street warfare, everywhere in the world. As long as the stockholders have a safe place to live and store their money, that’s all that counts.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494/29 "2017-07-05T17:50:58Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> So, basically, the Right Wing is triumphant in federal and state politics across the land, crime is still low except for hotspots like Chicago and Baltimore, there is no threat of a gun grab any time in the next 8 years, so the panic hoarding of guns and ammo has relaxed.
> 
> So now it’s time for a call to the people to arm themselves to crush the subversive thugs???
> 
> Jesus on a rollerskate, what dickery…

I’ve mentioned this elsewhere, but I do think that that ad was not aimed at your typical NRA gun lover who already has a dozen guns and ammo stocks for the end of the world. They watch that video and smile to themselves, because they are ready, and they can’t wait for the day to unleash their toys on some libtard scum.

The video was aimed at those of us who are not gun owners, making us aware that a civil war is in the making, and reminding us that we are not ready for when the NRA sycophants come out to start killing all those groups that make them feel uncomfortable.

I saw that ad, and my first though was, “I need to get down to the gun store and get me a gun, I am not ready for this civil war, and apparently it is starting today.”

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494/30 "2017-07-05T20:27:51Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> I dropped 25 bucks last year for a membership just to get the NRA’s hilarious, over the top, insanely paranoid news letters (hey, it was an election year) which feature [Wayne “Let Freedom Ring” LaPierre](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChGXaHYk0Ng) begging for cash for all sorts of neurotic/delusional reasons.

Do that three years in a row and you can vote in their board elections.

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**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494/31 "2017-07-05T20:28:38Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I saw that ad, and my first though was, “I need to get down to the gun store and get me a gun, I am not ready for this civil war, and apparently it is starting today.”

I would up the game and store rocket launchers, ready for the day of reckoning.

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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494/32 "2017-07-05T21:43:52Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Oh wait, its the gutter slut [Dana Loesch](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gWxneB1gvg).

Please. Stop.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494/33 "2017-07-05T23:34:22Z")

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I freely admit I posted a sexist comment to a YouTube video about Loesch, a comment I would not make if she were a man.

In my defense, I’m describing only my own feelings, unlike Loesch who attributes violence, revolution and hatred to hundreds of thousands of people she has never met.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494/34 "2017-07-05T23:51:51Z")

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There is a great joke I read on this board, but I don’t remember where. My apologies to the person that originally posted it if I don’t tell it as well as they did.

Two Jewish men are on the train, and each one was reading a newspaper. Abe was reading the Jewish paper. He looks over and realizes that his friend Sol is reading a crazy neo-Nazi newspaper. He turns to his friend Sol and asked “Why are you reading this garbage?” And Sol says … Every day I used to read the Jewish paper. All the stories were about Jews being persecuted, Jews being attacked , Jewish properties being vandalized. It was very depressing.  
Then I found this paper and I read about how Jews are all rich, Jews control the media, Jews rule the entire world. I like this news much better.

I’m telling this joke because while that video is outrageous propaganda, it’s also empowering. It makes me think the e-mail and phone campaigns,the protests and town halls are working. And it makes the alt-right types look weak and scared.

As a side note, I’m also relieved that the Republican leadership style seems to be “hold rallies where you blame the Democrats for everything, and promise you will change things someday” I SAN live with that for 3.5 more years.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494/35 "2017-07-05T23:56:20Z")

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Don’t these people understand “counter-programming”? With trump in office they should be marketing guns to liberals.

Methinks “deplorable” was being generous.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494/36 "2017-07-06T00:24:28Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> There is a great joke I read on this board, but I don’t remember where. My apologies to the person that originally posted it if I don’t tell it as well as they did.
> 
> Two Jewish men are on the train, and each one was reading a newspaper. Abe was reading the Jewish paper. He looks over and realizes that his friend Sol is reading a crazy neo-Nazi newspaper. He turns to his friend Sol and asked “Why are you reading this garbage?” And Sol says … Every day I used to read the Jewish paper. All the stories were about Jews being persecuted, Jews being attacked , Jewish properties being vandalized. It was very depressing.  
> Then I found this paper and I read about how Jews are all rich, Jews control the media, Jews rule the entire world. I like this news much better.
> 
> I’m telling this joke because while that video is outrageous propaganda, it’s also empowering. It makes me think the e-mail and phone campaigns,the protests and town halls are working. And it makes the alt-right types look weak and scared.
> 
> As a side note, I’m also relieved that the Republican leadership style seems to be “hold rallies where you blame the Democrats for everything, and promise you will change things someday” I SAN live with that for 3.5 more years.

When your ideas have no merit, fall back on your guns.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494/37 "2017-07-06T00:37:30Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> I’m still waiting for the NRA to release a statement on the Castillo verdict.

> [@SteveG1](#):
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> White lives matter … Castillo ain’t white

And the black guy who got shot in Minnesota was not named Castillo.

Just FYI.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494/38 "2017-07-06T10:03:22Z")

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> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#):
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> Please. Stop.

I’m sorry **Malleus, Incus, Stapes!**.\* I will bow to your request\*. Dana Loesch is not White Trash or a Gutter Slut. (And I was being kind) No. She’s a FUCKING NAZI. “The Clenched Fist of Truth” is just a bit to the left of the “The IRON Fist of Truth”.

She states, **“They use”** [In the following](https://www.vox.com/world/2017/6/29/15892508/nra-ad-dana-loesch-yikes).

= = =  
"\*\*They use \*\*"their media to assassinate real news.  
“ **They use** ” their schools to teach children that their president is another Hitler.  
“ **They use** ” their movie stars and singers and comedy shows and award shows to repeat their narrative over and over again.  
And then, **“They use”** their ex-president to endorse ‘The resistance.’  
= = =

Subsitute the phrase for “ **They use** ” for “ **Those Jews** ”.

In the world of Trump and Hannity, its not a stretch. I fully expected a “Heil Hitler!” salute at the end of her dribble.

Fucker.

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**Author:** ![Fleetwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fleetwood/32/271_2.png) [@Fleetwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fleetwood)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494/39 "2017-07-06T13:07:15Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> I’m still waiting for the NRA to release a statement on the Castillo verdict.

Maybe they don’t know about it. Enlighten us.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-trumifys-their-message-in-new-ad/790494/40 "2017-07-06T14:15:12Z")

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> [@Fleetwood](#):
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> Maybe they don’t know about it. Enlighten us.

Law-abiding citizen murdered by a cop (who was acquitted, big shocker). During a traffic stop, the cop tells him to get his license. Castille warns the cop that he has a gun in his glove box, then reaches for his ID. The cop freaks out, gives conflicting orders, then shoots him. Another friendly reminder that the second amendment has a hidden additional clause: “If you’re white”.

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