# The NYC mayoral race 2013

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [August 11, 2013, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916 "2013-08-11T02:55:21Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2014, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/261 "2014-03-19T16:38:56Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> That’s one way to interpret it. 45% approval, even if disapproval is low, is still pretty bad, unless the problem is lack of name recognition.

My understanding is that if you have a net favorable rating (more positive than negative), you’re doing well. Do you have a particular cite that demonstrates another view, or is this just something you’re personally very confident of?

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> And yes, it’s cause for concern, because he’s screwing up. A lot. He has to change course and learn how to do his job.

I think I know just what course changes you’d suggest, and they’re not the ones that got him elected.

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### Author: ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2014, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/262 "2014-03-19T17:14:06Z")

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They are the ones that got Giuliani and Bloomberg elected five times. The public wasn’t tired of those policies, they just didn’t have an adequate candidate who represented those policies.

Aside from your assurances that de Blasio wouldn’t change the most important ones.

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/263 "2014-03-19T17:17:16Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> They are the ones that got Giuliani and Bloomberg elected five times. The public wasn’t tired of those policies, they just didn’t have an adequate candidate who represented those policies.

Sure they did. Her name was Christine Quinn, and de Blasio trounced her in the primaries. Linking her to Bloomberg was an explicit part of his strategy, and so was arguing that Bloomberg and Quinn were overly focused on small issues and weren’t responsive to the day-to-day needs of a lot of New Yorkers. This was not a small thing during the campaign, **adaher**.

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### Author: ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2014, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/264 "2014-03-19T17:19:50Z")

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Okay, I can see that. But that’s an issue of emphasis. Giuliani and Bloomberg did some good things, but De Blasio’s case was that they neglected some other things important to New Yorkers. Now, has he started work on addressing those issues? Or is he more concerned with carriage riding and catering to teachers’ unions?

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2014, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/265 "2014-03-19T17:26:07Z")

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While the carriage horse thing isn’t exactly the most pressing issue facing the city, it’s worth pointing out that he specifically campaigned on this. It’s an issue that’s been getting more attention lately and not something he sprung on anybody, although he probably didn’t count on the amount of resistance he’d get. But he’s also emphasized the need for affordable housing and [he’s had at least one success on that score.](http://observer.com/2014/03/03/two-trees-cedes-to-de-blasios-demands-agrees-to-build-more-affordable-housing-at-domino-site/)

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### Author: ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2014, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/266 "2014-08-28T04:37:48Z")

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[http://www.newsday.com/news/new-york/edward-mullins-nypd-union-leader-won-t-back-bill-de-blasio-s-bid-for-dnc-in-brooklyn-1.9155037](http://www.newsday.com/news/new-york/edward-mullins-nypd-union-leader-won-t-back-bill-de-blasio-s-bid-for-dnc-in-brooklyn-1.9155037)

Head of the police union says New York is returning to the bad old days. De Blasio accuses him of “fearmongering”.

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### Author: ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2014, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/267 "2014-08-28T11:04:29Z")

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That’s not surprising. De Blasio doesn’t have the best relationship with the police unions, and right now, the Sergeant’s Benevolent Association (which is the union who’s head made the comments) is engaged in fairly contentious contract negotiations with the city. They want a salary increase, and De Blasio’s trying to get them to agree to a pay freeze. It’s probably heading to arbitration.

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### Author: ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2014, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/268 "2014-08-28T11:35:55Z")

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The stats back up de Blasio too. the crime rate is still dropping.

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### Author: ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)
#### Post date: [June 6, 2015, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/269 "2015-06-06T23:05:34Z")

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This thread was revived on a tangent not related to elections. The continued discussion has been moved to **Great Debates** as [NYC murder up this year, union in fight with mayor blames mayor](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18415672#post18415672)

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