# The NYC mayoral race 2013

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [August 11, 2013, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916 "2013-08-11T02:55:21Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2013, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/141 "2013-09-13T05:08:05Z")

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[Here are some details.](http://politicker.com/2013/09/bill-thompson-says-hes-staying-in-the-race-as-pressure-mounts/) Thompson can concede and cancel the runoff, but that has to happen by midnight Friday. Otherwise his name will be on the ballot no matter what - if there is a runoff. We still don’t know what the final margin is. The machine ballots will be reviewed in the next few days, and next week they’ll start going over the 80,000 absentee and provisional and other ballots.

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/142 "2013-09-16T16:09:40Z")

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[Thompson has conceded the race and endorsed de Blasio.](http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/17/nyregion/thompson-to-concede-to-de-blasio-in-mayoral-primary.html?hp)

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### Author: ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2013, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/143 "2013-09-16T21:42:04Z")

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So it’s down to De Blasio v. Lhota! Make your arguments/place your bets/start your engines! E-day is November 5!

BTW, [Bloomberg says he won’t endorse **anybody.**](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/13/michael-bloomberg-endorse-no-new-york-city-mayor-race_n_3920428.html)

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### Author: ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2013, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/144 "2013-09-16T23:02:12Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> So it’s down to De Blasio v. Lhota! Make your arguments/place your bets/start your engines! E-day is November 5!
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> BTW, [Bloomberg says he won’t endorse **anybody.**](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/13/michael-bloomberg-endorse-no-new-york-city-mayor-race_n_3920428.html)

In other words, Bloomberg doesn’t want to be responsible for Lhota losing.

My bet is the dismal primary turnout foretells that this race will decay into something even more dismal and desultory. Lhota can’t even use the best arguments against de Blasio, that he is at best a part time progressive, because he needs to mobilize the unexcited Staten Island Italians and that won’t work. De Blasio might like to paint Lhota in a Bloombergite authoritarian mold, but Lhota is the only candidate who has come out for full legalization of marijuana. Neither will really talk about the city finance time bomb.

I can only imagine the debates.

“You’re a pawn of the real estate industry.”  
“No, _you’re_ a pawn of the real estate industry.”

“You support some vaguely socially progressive policies.”  
“No, _you_ support some vaguely socially progressive policies.”

Yawn.

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2013, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/145 "2013-09-16T23:08:06Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> So it’s down to De Blasio v. Lhota! Make your arguments/place your bets/start your engines!

Anybody who bets on Lhota is probably involved in _Brewster’s Millions_-esque scenario.

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### Author: ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2013, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/146 "2013-09-17T01:05:04Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Anybody who bets on Lhota is probably involved in _Brewster’s Millions_-esque scenario.

Yeah. No race riots and no extreme act of terrorism means it’s going to be tough times for Lhota.

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### Author: ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2013, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/147 "2013-09-17T01:49:22Z")

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> [@Maeglin](#):
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> Yeah. No race riots and no extreme act of terrorism means it’s going to be tough times for Lhota.

Cheer up, God will provide . . .

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### Author: ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/148 "2013-09-17T15:45:40Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Cheer up, God will provide . . .

God provided New York with Nina Davuluri, so I guess we’re all square even though she’s from upstate.

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/149 "2013-09-18T02:37:08Z")

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[A new poll says de Blasio has a 65-22 lead among likely voters.](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323981304579081362117258116.html?mod=WSJ_NY_MIDDLELEADNewsCollection) Nobody had taken a poll on this matchup since (I think) May since de Blasio was considered such a long shot candidate, but that previous poll showed de Blasio with a very large lead as well.

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### Author: ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/150 "2013-09-20T01:56:16Z")

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> [@Maeglin](#):
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> I’m a white male married to a nonwhite female. We have a cute little biracial child.
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> I don’t think the problem is his family composition, it’s how he deploys images of it while delivering his message of a divided city. None of this is approaches Willie Horton levels. But for NYC I definitely think how he positions his family is pretty cynical and unpleasant.

What politician _doesn’t_ trot out the family during election time? DiBlasio happens to have a particularly telegenic son (daughter, too). Is he supposed to keep the kid out of sight 'cause he’s not as white as his father? I didn’t get any cynicism from it at all.

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### Author: ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [September 21, 2013, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/151 "2013-09-21T04:01:00Z")

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> [@Maeglin](#):
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> God provided New York with Nina Davuluri, so I guess we’re all square even though she’s from upstate.

Well, Krishna, whatever. (BTW, despite [certain Twitter comments](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=702421), she’s Hindu, not Muslim.)

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### Author: ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2013, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/152 "2013-09-27T22:20:33Z")

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Apparently, our other major issue, [snip and suck,](http://gothamist.com/2013/09/27/both_mayoral_candidates_are_panderi.php) is still very much alive.

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### Author: ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2013, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/153 "2013-09-27T23:23:28Z")

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[It didn’t take long](http://nypost.com/2013/09/27/de-blasio-asks-for-wall-streets-support/) for de Blasio to hit up his Wall Street buddies for cash. Another progressive until the primary.

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### Author: ![camille](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@camille](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/camille)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2013, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/154 "2013-10-01T08:12:22Z")

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It will cost 13 million dollars for the runoff. The Public Advocate’s office annual budget is 2.3 million dollars.

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### Author: ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2013, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/155 "2013-10-01T16:54:07Z")

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> [@camille](#):
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> It will cost 13 million dollars for the runoff. The Public Advocate’s office annual budget is 2.3 million dollars.

What do you think the significance of this fact is?

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### Author: ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2013, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/156 "2013-10-03T07:14:47Z")

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Here’s some grist for the mayor race: shootings up 13% since stop and frisk was ruled unconstitutional.

> **[Sources: Shootings Up In New York City Since Stop-And-Frisk Ruling](https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/sources-shootings-up-in-nyc-since-stop-and-frisk-ruling/)**
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> Law enforcement sources say they've already seen something of a trend on the street in that stop, question and frisk is fast becoming stop, watch and wait.

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2013, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/157 "2013-10-03T07:21:04Z")

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I appreciate that you tried to use statistics, but come on. It’s a small change over a very short period of time, and that’s not a solid basis for drawing conclusions.

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### Author: ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2013, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/158 "2013-10-03T07:30:57Z")

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True. However, with the election only two months away, New Yorkers need to make their decision with the data available, plus their own views on how much aggressive policing tactics have reduced crime and how changes under de Blasio are likely to affect crime rates.

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2013, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/159 "2013-10-03T07:49:56Z")

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New York’s mind seems pretty well made up: de Blasio has a tremendous lead and is going to win easily. I know you wish it were otherwise, but the facts are what they are. It would be hard for him to blow a 40-point lead in a month. And I’m glad you acknowledge your own cite isn’t worth much. It’s something that bears monitoring but drawing conclusions based on a month of data doesn’t make sense.

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### Author: ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2013, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nyc-mayoral-race-2013/665916/160 "2013-10-03T09:28:50Z")

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Oh, no doubt it looks like De Blasio will win. But what if we see four years of increases in the crime rate? Would that be enough to draw conclusions?

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