# The obligatory "Incredibles" thread! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 4, 2004, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061 "2004-11-04T22:10:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/21 "2004-11-06T05:43:13Z")
Great movie! Great boyfriend-girlfriend or family movie. Some superhero comic book geeks are going to get all fussy about this move, and try butterfly pin it into some category, or relate it to other superhero genre, but they are really, really misssing the point of the movie. This is not a “superhero” movie, it’s more about family. Very well done! Voice characterizations are absolutely superb. See this review [The Incredibles succeeds where most fantasy movies fail.](http://www.slate.com/id/2109200/) ---
**Author:** ![AntaresJB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AntaresJB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AntaresJB)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/22 "2004-11-06T06:20:52Z")
I don’t have much to say about this movie other than it was good and I enjoyed it a lot, but the one thing that struck me about the animation… the hair. Oh my gosh, the hair! Such insanely realistic-looking hair. With the highlights and the shininess… shampoo-commercial cartoon hair. Kudos to Pixar for that hair. Did anyone stick around through the credits? Were there any bloopers or extras? (spoiler box, please.) I didn’t stay because I had to pee like crazy. :o ---
**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/23 "2004-11-06T06:27:02Z")
I liked it, though I would rank it third in the Pixar pantheon behind _Finding Nemo_ and _Monsters, Inc._ The two big action sequences at the end were astonishing, and the comedy in the first half worked perfectly most of the time. The animators obviously put huge effort into backgrounds; check out the jungle scenes. It also had the most memorable music of any movie since _Pirates of the Carribean_. My biggest complaint would have to be At the end the villain’s final evil plan is to _give his stuff away for free_. I don’t like this because I suspect it’s somehow supposed to be related to a message about movie priacy. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/24 "2004-11-06T06:32:16Z")
My wife, and my 8 year old and 3 year old went and had a great time. My three year old fell asleep though…long day - that’s ok. My 8 year old thoroughly enjoyed the movie and wants to see it again already. The animation was spectacular, especially when Dash is speeding around. My 16 year old decided to see “The Grudge” with his girlfriend instead of hanging with us…I told them that they blew it bigtime. We just might all go and see it again next week. Definitely a top 5 movie of the year and the best animation of the year. ---
**Author:** ![CheapBastid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8baadc/32.png) [@CheapBastid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheapBastid)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/25 "2004-11-06T06:33:43Z")
> [@ITR champion](#): > > At the end the villain’s final evil plan is to _give his stuff away for free_. I don’t like this because I suspect it’s somehow supposed to be related to a message about movie priacy. My take on your spoilered commentNot how I read it. It was a reference to the earlier conversation between the Mom and son on the way back from school. She tells him everyone’s ‘special’ and he says that means nobody’s special. Also it was the villan’s way to take away the ‘specialness’ of the superheros he once worshiped and now resents. ---
**Author:** ![CheapBastid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8baadc/32.png) [@CheapBastid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheapBastid)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/26 "2004-11-06T06:35:50Z")
> [@AntaresJB](#): > > Did anyone stick around through the credits? Were there any bloopers or extras? (spoiler box, please.) I didn’t stay because I had to pee like crazy. :o We stuck around and there were none. I was looking forward to them. I really expected to see something for sure and told my 4yo there was going to be something extra at the very end. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![CheapBastid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8baadc/32.png) [@CheapBastid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheapBastid)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/27 "2004-11-06T06:38:39Z")
> [@Selkie](#): > > I had hoped to come back saying Pixar completely batted this one out of the park. I can’t quite go that far, but the parts that worked were fantastic, and the ones that didn’t weren’t bad. I thought last 15 - 20 minutes did a lot to improve my enjoyment of the experience. Well worth the price of admission. I agree, but my wife said she was looking at her watch through the first 3/4 of the film. She’s a fan of the rest of the Pixar catalog though. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/28 "2004-11-06T06:56:28Z")
Besides the car short animation, I also enjoyed the hokiness of the Jackalope and Sheep short animation. Very cutesy for the kiddies and a good opener for the main animation. ---
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/29 "2004-11-06T13:14:28Z")
> [@CheapBastid](#): > > We stuck around and there were none. I was looking forward to them. I really expected to see something for sure and told my 4yo there was going to be something extra at the very end. > > ☹ I thought Pixar usually puts the bloopers in later in a film’s run to get people to come back a second time. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/30 "2004-11-06T13:27:21Z")
I agree with **CheapBastid’s** spoiler theory. Plus I thought he was going to sell them when he was done. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/31 "2004-11-06T13:32:14Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > Eh, I think the superpowers are fairly archtypical. Plastic Man was doing stretches long before Mr. Fantastic, and you can’t get a more basic superpower than super-strength. Sure. They ARE all rather generic powers. But put together in exactly the same combination(especially the girl with BOTH force fields and invisibility), with the family foursome and the villain, it goes beyond coincidence for me. Plus When the baby flamed up at the end, I thought they were almost taunting us! 😉 A few other unreleated things: - I loved the lawsuit plotline. - Frozone was the best thing about the film. - I liked the Watchmen/Capes are bad joke. - I too thought the hair was well animated. Especially Elastigirl’s when she was on the rooftop (before the film) and when she was in the ocean. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/32 "2004-11-06T18:47:49Z")
I saw it last night. I am utterly charmed by & in love with this film! I’ve seen 3 movies in my life that were better than the hype:[ol] [li]The Original _Star Wars_[/li][li]_Raiders Of The Lost Ark_[/li][li]and _The Incredibles_[/li][/ol] BTW–anybody notice the way Elastigirl moves from rooftop to rooftop? Fluid & agile. BRILLIANT! GRAND! I want it on DVD, and **I want a sequel!!** ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/33 "2004-11-06T18:54:31Z")
> [@Yeticus Rex](#): > > Besides the car short animation, I also enjoyed the hokiness of the Jackalope and Sheep short animation. Very cutesy for the kiddies and a good opener for the main animation. If I saw the same thing you did, the “car short” you are referring to is a trailer for the next Pixar feature. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/34 "2004-11-06T19:38:01Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > If I saw the same thing you did, the “car short” you are referring to is a trailer for the next Pixar feature. Ok, now that makes a little more sense…I was wrestling with my restless 3 year old at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/35 "2004-11-06T20:32:24Z")
_The Incredibles_ is the most perfect movie ever made. That is all. [SUB]Okay, that’s NOT all. I’m going to go see it again tomorrow. One thing I particularly liked was all the unique ways the family used their powers- stuff like the manhole cover slingshot, Dash running inside Violet’s forcefield… damn, just beautiful.[/SUB] ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/36 "2004-11-06T20:53:36Z")
The film is quite good, and works on a variety of levels. \*It’s a great superhero movie. Violence is comic-booky, and not much worse than you’d see on various superhero cartoons on TV right now. Probably the worst is the fact that a number of Syndrome’s stormtrooper-like henchmen get killed when they fly their vehicles into trees and rocks and stuff. We assume they’re dead; their vehicles sure blow up real good. No gore, no icky. Very similar to the way evil henchmen on the old Jonny Quest TV show used to buy it during chase scenes, frankly. \*It’s a hilarious comedy about midlife crises and married-couple relationships; Bob and Helen’s marriage and kid problems are a very funny burlesque of situations we’ve already seen in any number of “married couple” comedies, and Frozone gets a great scene where, in an emergency, he can’t find his super-suit because his wife “put it away.” \*It’s a very funny sendup of comic book superheroes, with a strong twist of James Bond in there as well. \*It is, in many ways, kind of a study of the sixties “superhero fad,” as well… throughout the movie, I kept noticing little touches that made me think of the old Hanna-Barbera superhero cartoons (notably _The Impossibles_, but there are others), old sixties spy movies, sixties television… the cars in the movie are kind of sixtiesish, as is Bob and Helen Parr’s house, in terms of decor and architecture. And listen to the film’s soundtrack and tell me it wasn’t influenced by the work of the guys who did the _Batman_ and \*Green Hornet \* TV themes and every James Bond movie ever made… light bass, lots of trumpet work, very actiony, very… _sixties_. Sole gripe: Parts of the plot, particularly the ending, are extremely predictable… straight from the comics, you might say. Still, it’s good stuff. Kids will like it, and adults will have lots of laughs. I’d say go check it out. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/37 "2004-11-06T22:00:05Z")
I came out of this movie with one question: Batman vs. Syndrome. Who wins? Great movie, BTW. I might go again, but I’m not gonna drive an hour like I did today just to see it. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/38 "2004-11-06T22:20:56Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > I came out of this movie with one question: > > Batman vs. Syndrome. Who wins? Oh, come on. Short of taking Batman completely by surprise while in his Bruce Wayne outfit and immediately vaporizing him on the spot, Batman would mop the floor with Syndrome quite handily. And given Syndrome’s penchant for gloating, the above scenario seems unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/39 "2004-11-06T22:24:04Z")
What I’m wondering is when did the [Heat Miser](http://www.northpolesantaclaus.com/heat_miser.htm) become a superhero? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/40 "2004-11-06T22:29:45Z")
> [@Master Wang-Ka](#): > > Oh, come on. Short of taking Batman completely by surprise while in his Bruce Wayne outfit and immediately vaporizing him on the spot, Batman would mop the floor with Syndrome quite handily. > > And given Syndrome’s penchant for gloating, the above scenario seems unlikely. Any Robin could do so as well. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061.md?page=3)