# The obligatory "Incredibles" thread! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 4, 2004, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061 "2004-11-04T22:10:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/81 "2004-11-08T13:46:15Z")
Saw with my 6 year old. Enjoyed it. Everybody’s powers - clearly all repeats/_homages_ to existing characters. Edna Mode = Edith Head? Check. Dash through jungle = Endor? Check. Syndrome = Dr. Doom/Lex Luthor type? Check. Kronos? Not clear - I can see the Titan link, but it certainly wasn’t made clear in the movie if in fact that is what was meant. Where did GaserBeam learn about the word (assuming he lasered it into the cave wall)? What was good? The way the characters interacted within the context of the story. That is what Pixar always does well. IMHO their plots are usually incredibly simple examples of typical plots. What they do differently is make the characters seem real and quirky - they interact in a genuine way (the arguing over traffic exits is a classic example). The quality of the characters and their interactions elevates a predictable plot - coupled with wonderful animation and great action. My $.02. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/82 "2004-11-08T14:26:35Z")
Any idea why the guy called himself “Syndrome”? That’s the only part that didn’t fit, for me- I mean, was that the BEST name he could think of? There’s gotta be a deeper meaning. ---
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/83 "2004-11-08T14:28:29Z")
> [@Lightnin'](#): > > Any idea why the guy called himself “Syndrome”? That’s the only part that didn’t fit, for me- I mean, was that the BEST name he could think of? There’s gotta be a deeper meaning. _Sin_-drome. I got nothing… ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/84 "2004-11-08T14:35:30Z")
I also really liked the Cast Away reference. After the plane crash when Dash is under water and he watches the front half of the plane sink in the darkness. That was about my favorite thing about Cast Away. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/85 "2004-11-08T14:42:44Z")
> [@Lightnin'](#): > > Any idea why the guy called himself “Syndrome”? That’s the only part that didn’t fit, for me- I mean, was that the BEST name he could think of? There’s gotta be a deeper meaning. > [@](#): > > syn·drome ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sndrm) > n. > A group of symptoms that collectively indicate or characterize a disease, psychological disorder, or other abnormal condition. > > A complex of symptoms indicating the existence of an undesirable condition or quality. > A distinctive or characteristic pattern of behavior: the syndrome of conspicuous consumption in wealthy suburbs. He saw his own villiany as a symptom of a disease. The “disease” of heroes. He blamed everything on them, murdered them one at a time, & then tried to replace them himself. A very sick puppy. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/86 "2004-11-08T15:38:55Z")
I absolutely loved the film. One of my favorite lines/situations:The minions in the RV watching the robot destroy the city. One opens up a bottle and says "Let’s take a shot whenever they run away."Just one of the little throw-aways that will be completely missed by the kids, but adds something to the characters. See, even the minions are human. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/87 "2004-11-08T17:02:18Z")
For those wanting a sequel, keep in mind that all current appearances are that next year’s _Cars_ will mark the end of the Disney/Pixar contract. Once the contract ends, the right to make sequels to the Pixar/Disney movies falls to Disney. If a sequel is made after that, it will either be part of an unlikely reunion or Disney will make it themselves. No Pixar, no Brad Bird (probably). For example, last month, Disney announced plans for _Toy Story_ 3 and 4. At this time, there is no expectation that Pixar will be involved. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Lance_Murdoch)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/88 "2004-11-08T17:04:30Z")
I really liked the movie. Good story, good animation and good action. The only problem I had with it was the unfortunate stereotyping that was done. The boss of the HMO was clearly in the same vain as Mr. Slate and Mr. Spacely. He was an extremely short, tyrannical man. Haven’t we grown out of that yet? Additionally, there was Flash’s teacher. A short man portrayed as being very weak. This character seems to have been modeled on the late Michael Jeter. Then there was Bomb Voyage, a villain who dresses like a mime and is an over-the-top stereotype of the French. I would not like to see such a cruel caricature of “Americanism” in a film. I wonder how that scene will play in France? ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/89 "2004-11-08T17:08:50Z")
Oh, and another hidden reference in the movie relates to the conference room Mr. Incredible is sent to for his second go at the robot That room was D Wing, Room A113. A113 was the room number for the animation classroom at the California Institute of the Arts. Founded by Walt Disney and a room in which a great number of top animaters found themselves at some point. You can find A113 references in all types of animated movies (Don Bluth, _Lilo & Stitch_, episodes of _The Simpsons_), not just Pixar. I know that one of the conference rooms at Pixar’s Emeryville studio is numbered A113. Don’t know if it is D Wing. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/90 "2004-11-08T17:09:15Z")
> [@Captain Lance Murdoch](#): > > Then there was Bomb Voyage, a villain who dresses like a mime and is an over-the-top stereotype of the French. I would not like to see such a cruel caricature of “Americanism” in a film. I wonder how that scene will play in France? My guess is that they’ll rename him and change his accent. It’s been done before. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/91 "2004-11-08T18:06:03Z")
[QUOTE=obfusciatrist] For those wanting a sequel, keep in mind that all current appearances are that next year’s _Cars_ will mark the end of the Disney/Pixar contract. [QUOTE] By the way - the Pixar folks are gods for the movies they have put out so far - but was is just me, or did the preview for _Cars_ basically look like Pixar was pimpin’ for NASCAR? Since the racecars had very little to say, it was hard to see past the “Yep, that’s a NASCAR race” aspect of the movie… ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/92 "2004-11-08T18:35:17Z")
My thought was that it felt like an extended Chevron commercial. I can’t say that I was very impressed by the _Cars_ teaser, but then I was thoroughly turned off by _Finding Nemo_ based on its teaser. What I do know of the story, though, indicates that most of it will not be at the racetrack, but the story of the high living car relearning the important things in life when stuck in a small town somewhere along Route 66. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/93 "2004-11-08T18:49:56Z")
The speeder bike chase on Endor was lifted from The Hidden Fortress. A great movie that if you like Star Wars, I really recomend you see it. Lucas took much ‘inspiration’ from that movie. (R2D2 C-3PO, Amidala and Qui-gon and of course the speeder bike chase) ---
**Author:** ![Labtrash](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/labtrash/32/528_2.png) [@Labtrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labtrash)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/94 "2004-11-08T18:57:52Z")
Saw this Sunday night - and loved it! I couldn’t stay in the theatre when the credits started - anything happen during them that I missed - all it looked like when I left was a cartoony retelling of the movie… did anyone stay? ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/95 "2004-11-08T19:22:16Z")
Nothing special about the credits, except… something, I don’t remember what, breaks into points of light which then become notes on a cleft (isn’t that what you call that five line thingy that notes live on in mucic scores?) for the music credit, acording to my musician wife, this score was the song playing at the time, which was kind of an obscure touch. Loved the movie, BTW. Elasti-girl is certainly a MILF. It’s cool that she’s not some svelt eye candy, she’s had 3 kids and baby got _back_! ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/96 "2004-11-08T19:36:45Z")
Saw it Friday night, and ran into some casual friends at the theatre! It’s a small world. Anyway, these are the two parts I liked best: (When Syndrome’s caught the whiole family) “Mr. Incredible…and Elastigirl!” (Pause, looks at the kids) “And they got BUSY!” with such a mischievous smile! And In the flying van, when they’re going back to the city, they pan inside and the kids says “Are we there yet?” And Mr. Incredible, gripping the steering wheel and gritting his teeth, says “We’ll get there when we GET there!” Had us in stitches all night and all weekend. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/97 "2004-11-08T19:36:56Z")
My wife got the Edith Head reference. Other nice moments: The little chuckle of delight that Dash makes when he realizes that he’s running on water. Mr. Incredible’s perfectly-timed leap to save the suicide near the beginning. The waterfall of lava! I want that in my office. And I want to live in Edna’s house. The cameos near the end by Frank Thomas and Ollie Johnston, the last two surviving members of Disney’s “nine old men”. (They’re the guys who make the “old school” comment.) ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/98 "2004-11-08T19:45:01Z")
Frank Thomas died earlier this year. Other than being well presented, there was nothing on interest happening in the credits. ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/99 "2004-11-08T19:46:42Z")
Someone asked if there are any cool things in the credits. There aren’t outtakes, if that’s what you are wondering, but there are several scenes rendered in a very rough form. My favorite was Dash running around in a rough-hewn polygonic world ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/100 "2004-11-08T19:48:43Z")
> [@Captain Lance Murdoch](#): > > The only problem I had with it was the unfortunate stereotyping that was done. The boss of the HMO was clearly in the same vain as Mr. Slate and Mr. Spacely. He was an extremely short, tyrannical man. Haven’t we grown out of that yet? Um, I think you’re over-reacting. I’d point out that the boss’ intensely small stature only heightened the contrasts between him and Mr. Inredible- the boss was this tiny, weak figure and Mr. Incredible was incredibly big and strong… but the boss had all of the power and Mr. Incredible had absolutely none. > [@](#): > > Additionally, there was Flash’s teacher. A short man portrayed as being very weak. This character seems to have been modeled on the late Michael Jeter. Um, short? He was standing while everyone else was seated, so he seemed taller than everyone else. I think you have height issues of your own to resolve, if you see Bernie as short. > [@](#): > > Then there was Bomb Voyage, a villain who dresses like a mime and is an over-the-top stereotype of the French. I would not like to see such a cruel caricature of “Americanism” in a film. I wonder how that scene will play in France? Er… French stereotype? Because he was a mime and spoke French? How is that any crueler than showing an American dressed up as a cowboy? Anyways- thought the movie rocked. Wish there had been extras in the end credits. “Dammit, woman, where is my _suit_?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061.md?page=6)