# The obligatory "Incredibles" thread! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 4, 2004, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061 "2004-11-04T22:10:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/141 "2004-11-14T01:55:04Z")
> [@lawoot](#): > > I don’t know why, but I think that Syndrome looked like [Emilio Lizardo](http://www.rageboy.com/lizardo.jpg), from _Buckaroo Banzai_. While watching, I was definitely thinking he reminded me of John Lithgow. ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/142 "2004-11-14T02:24:25Z")
THAT’S why I kept thinking Jason Lee’s voice was “wrong” coming out of that guy’s mouth. It bugged me the entire second half of the movie. “No, no, that isn’t what he should sound like…It’s not manic or slavic enough…” ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/143 "2004-11-14T03:01:21Z")
Saw it last night. I haven’t enjoyed a movie that much in a long time. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/144 "2004-11-14T03:44:06Z")
> [@lawoot](#): > > I don’t know why, but I think that Syndrome looked like [Emilio Lizardo](http://www.rageboy.com/lizardo.jpg), from _Buckaroo Banzai_. Thank you! I was trying to figure out where I’d seen that face! ---
**Author:** ![YellowTail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b5ac83/32.png) [@YellowTail](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YellowTail)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/145 "2004-11-14T06:13:33Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > And what do folks think about the short, **Boundin’?** I love the idea of bringing back shorts before movies, something I remember as a kid going to drive-ins. Usually Mr. Magoo or Pink Panther. Anyhoo, Boundin’ was funny and I liked that it was based on a poem. It’s a great way to introduce kids to poetry or classical literature. Incredibles was funny too. I was surprised at the lengthy dialog scenes though. I was equally surprised that none of the kids in the audience (including my eight-year-old nephew) were bored by them. I got the impression that I was viewing the near future of cinema. These are the new movies. I’m curious how the Oscars will adjust. Best actress??? Who gets the award? The voice-over actor or the pixal jockey? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Incubus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@Incubus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incubus)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/146 "2004-11-14T08:33:09Z")
I had to see it, even as a 24 year old guy alone amidst a theater full of children. [spoiler] I thought Syndrome was a really interesting villan. I was sort of expecting some sort of throwaway villan, because they didn’t really mention him in the trailers, only some superheroes coming out of retirement. But he wound up being really cool, in the sense that he was deeply disturbed. It was as though he allowed Mr. Incredible to destroy his childhood obsession. But didn’t he know that Mr Incredible _saved_ him by removing the explosive placed by Bomb Voyage? You would have figured during the scene where Mr. Incredible is shackled he would have brought that up, instead of resorting to using Mirage as a hostage. And about that- It really showed how powerful of a villan Syndrome was. He had the greatest power of all the supers, the knowlege of their true weaknesses. He learned the hard way that they weren’t emotionally infallable, and that he could use that to get to them, just like all great villans do. He also knew about the ‘villan monologue fallacy’. As he is going into his speech, Mr. Incredibly tries to toss a tree at him, but Syndrome is one step ahead. He does admit “You almost got me there” but I cant help but wonder if he was on guard all along. Elastigirl aged _very_ well in those fifteen years. I really thought she was actually superior to Mr. Incredible in that she was able to cooperate better than he was. Mr. Incredible always had to be the one to save the day, and that was his weakness. Elastagirl showed great initiative protecting her kids when their jet got shot down, I was very impressed. The burning building scene was good, reminded me of a similar scene in Spider Man 2. Mr Incredible and Frozone’s powers are useless in that situation, they are doing it as human beings. Violet and Dash have to deal with the confusing aspect of going from supressing their powers to using them full tilt. I liked that they showed a lot of stress and tension from both of them about it. And it was really cool when they DID go crazy with their powers. There was quite a bit of foreshadowing! The capes, for instance. Halfway through the movie I realized, “hey, Syndrome still has a cape, bet he’s just _asking_ for trouble!” which happened, and also Edna made sure Jack Jack’s suit was super-fireproof, which was convenient when he went all human torch on Syndrome. [/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Vision\_of\_Love](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Vision\_of\_Love](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vision_of_Love)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/147 "2004-11-14T09:09:01Z")
I just saw this film and I thought it was fantastic. I’m going to rave about it to all my friends when I see them. Everyone must see this film. Really. A review I posted on another forum: > [@](#): > > I saw this movie today and it was the most fun I had watching a movie in a long time. > > I remember being quite unimpressed when I first saw the teasers, and even the full trailers did nothing to heighten my anticipation. I thought that much of the charm of Pixar’s movies was their non-human characters. I thought, if they were going to make a whole movie with an all-human cast, why even bother with CG animation? > > The story was solid (as with all Pixar films 🙂 ) and I was actually really impressed with the outcome of an all-human cast in a Pixar movie. I got the impression that the animation could have been much more realistic, but the animators didn’t go in that direction because they wanted to maintain that “look” of an animated feature. > > This movie plays out much more like an action/adventure film than an all-ages animated film. I would guess it is the biggest factor in why it’s really clicking with teens and adults. You could almost imagine a live-action version of “The Incredibles” to be made; I imagine it would be kind of like the Marvel comics movies. The final fight scene actually bears similarities to both Spider-Man 2 and X-Men. > > There is more dialogue in this film than previous Pixar releases. I’m sure a lot of the kids in the theatre with me got a little restless, but I got the impression that it was a hit with the adults, including me. > > It just goes to show that Pixar is miles ahead of Dreamworks when it comes to CG animated movies (well, once we factor out Shrek and Shrek 2, which I love)–not only do they have creativity, but versatility as well. It’s also evident how much work and love Pixar put into their films, especially when you see all the imaginative sets and characters, and the small nuances in animation. > > After seeing the movie, “The Incredibles” is now possibly my favourite Pixar film. > > There is definitely room for a sequel here. And demand for one too, I’m sure. 🙂 > > **GRADE:** A+ ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/148 "2004-11-14T18:51:20Z")
I absolutely loved the home-life scenes: The arguement around the kitchen table, where Bob ends up cutting through the plate, and the scene where Helen is standing in the doorway vacuuming, and stretching to reach the whole room, while Bob casually picks up the sofa for her. They just seemed so “real”, that you almost didn’t notice that the characters were using inhuman abilities throughout. The animation was flawless, and the characterizations and motivations were superb. I didn’t anticipate Syndrome, but as soon as he was revealed I realized that I should have. Good work for them, too, not spoiling that in any of the ads. And Elastigirl = sexy? Check. I think that I was drooling when she told Mr. Incredible that he needed to be more flexible (you know, where she’s flowing around him? Hang on, I need to wipe off my keyboard). And that whole scene was genius, incidentally: The afternoon before their wedding, and they’re still flirting like they just met. My only complaint would be the ending, or rather, the endings. When they’ve just defeated the Omnidroid and going home in the limo, the movie felt resolved. Then, when they get home, they get another conflict, and they resolved that, too. And then we have the track meet, and as they’re walking away from the stadium with a trophy for Dash and a Friday date for Violet, it was resolved again. And then yet another villain shows up. It felt like it should have ended more cleanly. ---
**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/149 "2004-11-14T20:42:00Z")
Just out of curiosity, did they make the short about the lamb particularly for this movie? All the previous opening short films have had a notice that they were made many years ago, but not this time. In any case, I liked this short film better than the one about the snowman in the glass dome. The one with the lamb had an actual theme and the rhyme scheme is pretty clever. ---
**Author:** ![cstamets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/958977/32.png) [@cstamets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cstamets)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/150 "2004-11-14T22:18:18Z")
> [@ITR champion](#): > > Just out of curiosity, did they make the short about the lamb particularly for this movie? All the previous opening short films have had a notice that they were made many years ago, but not this time. In any case, I liked this short film better than the one about the snowman in the glass dome. The one with the lamb had an actual theme and the rhyme scheme is pretty clever. I thought I saw a copyright year of 2003 on the short, but I’m not 100% sure. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/151 "2004-11-14T22:26:21Z")
What a spectacular film! I took my daughter and her friend, but with really low expectations. I saw a marketing trailer for the film before it’s release, which made it look like the whole film was Mr. Incredible moping about in his “ordinary” life. Then I find it is basically an action/adventure. Wow! And I **loved** Edna. “It’s completely bullet-proof, and flame-proof to 3000 degrees. And machine-washable - that’s a new feature.” Wonderful. And I enjoyed the dancing sheep cartoon as well. The trailer for “Cars” looks like it sucks, tho. And keep in mind that I didn’t care much for Finding Nemo. But this one - SEEE-QUEL! SEEE-QUEL! SEEE-QUEL! SEEE-QUEL! A whole series! Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/152 "2004-11-14T23:00:56Z")
I wonder.,when the comics series will hit the stands? THERE HAS TO BE A COMICS SERIES!! THERE HAS TO BE!!! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/153 "2004-11-14T23:03:11Z")
> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#): > > I wonder.,when the comics series will hit the stands? > > THERE HAS TO BE A COMICS SERIES!! THERE HAS TO BE!!! :eek: It hit the stands this past week and is published by Dark Horse. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/154 "2004-11-14T23:10:37Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > It hit the stands this past week and is published by Dark Horse. Thank you! Thank you! 😃😃😃 ---
**Author:** ![cstamets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/958977/32.png) [@cstamets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cstamets)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/155 "2004-11-14T23:25:35Z")
> [@cstamets](#): > > I thought I saw a copyright year of 2003 on the short, but I’m not 100% sure. All right. I looked it up. It was [2003](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395479/) . I like the IMDB. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2004, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/156 "2004-11-15T01:27:03Z")
Saw it. Loved it. One thing I missed: Why does Syndrome lose control of the Omnibot? Something on his remote says “external control” or somesuch. If it was Mirage hacking the system, why didn’t she just shut it down? Or did Syndrome just hit the wrong button? ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2004, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/157 "2004-11-15T01:35:59Z")
I saw the movie yesterday. I loved it, much like most everybody else in this thread. It’s on my must-buy list of DVD titles. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/158 "2004-11-15T01:48:47Z")
> [@Mr. Miskatonic](#): > > Saw it. Loved it. One thing I missed: > > Why does Syndrome lose control of the Omnibot? Something on his remote says “external control” or somesuch. If it was Mirage hacking the system, why didn’t she just shut it down? Or did Syndrome just hit the wrong button? Remember how he said his robots were able to learn? Well, this robot noticed him using his armband to control it and so it shot (knocked?) the armband off of him. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2004, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/159 "2004-11-15T03:37:17Z")
Actually, _Boundin’_ is older. It was nominated for an Academy Award the last time around as a 2003 qualifier. To the degree that the making of a Pixar short is tied to a specific feature, _Boundin’_ is tied to next year’s _Cars_. It was used as a testbed for some new lighting software that was then used for that feature. Pixar uses shorts as a means of testing ideas and exposing talented artists to the full process. All animators at Pixar are encouraged to propose short ideas, and that is how this one came about. ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061/160 "2004-11-25T20:58:27Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > … My only complaint would be the ending, or rather, the endings. When they’ve just defeated the Omnidroid and going home in the limo, the movie felt resolved. Then, when they get home, they get another conflict, and they resolved that, too. And then we have the track meet, and as they’re walking away from the stadium with a trophy for Dash and a Friday date for Violet, it was resolved again. And then yet another villain shows up. It felt like it should have ended more cleanly. … i had the same complaint about LOTR, but here, it felt more like an encore and was welcomed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-obligatory-incredibles-thread/273061.md?page=9)