# The Office: 04 Feb 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 4, 2011, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122 "2011-02-04T05:29:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122/21 "2011-02-04T17:13:14Z")

</div>

I thought it was one of the strongest episodes of the season and really liked the Holly/Michael sympatico impulses.

I also liked the caption contest and the Ryan/Kelly divorce.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122/22 "2011-02-04T17:15:56Z")

</div>

> [@koufax](#):
>
> Can somebody explain to me why Michael would leave his cell phone AND wallet in Jim’s car when he went in to use the bathroom?

What did he have in his hand when he came _out_ of the restroom? He was carrying something blue.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122/23 "2011-02-04T17:16:36Z")

</div>

> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
>
> I thought it was one of the strongest episodes of the season and really liked the Holly/Michael sympatico impulses.
> 
> I also liked the caption contest and the Ryan/Kelly divorce.

Ditto on the uptick in writing/plot.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122/24 "2011-02-04T17:35:27Z")

</div>

I thought the bad writing was the fact that the camera crew (which is in fact a character on the show) knew why Jim was leaving, saw Jim leave, was in fact abandoned themselves, but never told Michael where he went or why.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122/25 "2011-02-04T17:55:08Z")

</div>

> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
>
> I thought the bad writing was the fact that the camera crew (which is in fact a character on the show) knew why Jim was leaving, saw Jim leave, was in fact abandoned themselves, but never told Michael where he went or why.

Isn’t it fairly common in documentary/reality-style shows for the camera crew to leave the subject in the dark?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Santos\_L\_Halper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/santos_l_halper/32/1_2.png) [@Santos\_L\_Halper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santos_L_Halper)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122/26 "2011-02-04T17:57:57Z")

</div>

> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
>
> What did he have in his hand when he came _out_ of the restroom? He was carrying something blue.

I think it was the bathroom key (attached to something large so you can’t forget to return it to the attendant).

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Grapefruit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/73ab20/32.png) [@Grapefruit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grapefruit)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122/27 "2011-02-04T17:59:19Z")

</div>

> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
>
> What did he have in his hand when he came _out_ of the restroom? He was carrying something blue.

Washroom keys.

It was a decent episode. Caption contest was a little weak, although the Angela moment saved it a little. Loved that Holly tracked Michael down by not even thinking too hard about it. And Michael with the puppies… so cute! At any rate, I am SO glad to see Michael and Holly together again. I suppose this is the set up for him leaving… he’ll go with her to Nashua.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122/28 "2011-02-04T18:00:56Z")

</div>

I absolutely loved that when left to do whatever she wanted, Holly instinctively did everything Michael did.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122/29 "2011-02-04T18:09:04Z")

</div>

It appears to me that John Krasinski is weaning himself off of looking at the camera. I would think it would be very difficult to go on to other roles and avoid doing the same thing, though it seems he’s managed so far. Or maybe the show is just taking a turn away from that sort of idea. Bad news about Mindy Kaling. She hasn’t been my favorite personality on the program, but her writing will be sorely missed.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122/30 "2011-02-04T18:13:34Z")

</div>

> [@Munch](#):
>
> Don’t [worry](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12487948&postcount=85), [he’ll](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12457726&postcount=6) [be](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12457726&postcount=6) [back](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12217378&postcount=6).
> 
> koufax - seriously. Every single thread you come in and post the same shit. Please stop crapping in these threads, it’s extremely obnoxious. Please?

That drives me nuts. In some of the other shows I watched (notably Six Feet Under and Sopranos, but also Seinfeld when it comes up) there would be people that would bitch and moan every single week about it. I never understood why they would continue to watch it. No one is forcing you to watch the show. You don’t have to like it. It’s perfectly acceptable to watch something else instead, millions of people do it. All we ask is that you don’t shit on our thread.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122/31 "2011-02-04T18:15:51Z")

</div>

I have no problem with negative reviews. It’s art; it should be subject to criticism. However, the “I’m never watching this again!” stuff is very drama-queeny.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122/32 "2011-02-04T18:27:17Z")

</div>

I asked this a couple episodes ago, but has John Krasinski been working on something else? This was the third episode in in a row where he had a relatively small role.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122/33 "2011-02-04T18:34:36Z")

</div>

> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
>
> I asked this a couple episodes ago, but has John Krasinski been working on something else? This was the third episode in in a row where he had a relatively small role.

[His imdb.com listing](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1024677/) says he’s working on “The Muppets” and has had 2 projects that are wrapping up.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122/34 "2011-02-04T18:46:22Z")

</div>

Holly and Michael remind me of Dick and Mary on **3rd Rock From the Sun**. The dynamic between a crazy man and a woman who seems to have it all put together but just below the surface is just as strange as her soul mate.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122/35 "2011-02-04T18:59:39Z")

</div>

> [@koufax](#):
>
> Can somebody explain to me why Michael would leave his cell phone AND wallet in Jim’s car when he went in to use the bathroom?

Uh, maybe he figured he wouldn’t need either one while doing his business?

> [@koufax](#):
>
> PS What the fuck does Daryll do all day in his private office in his warehouse clothes?

I think he stopped wearing business casual once Kathy Bates left. And I can’t tell you what most of the employees are doing all day, so I don’t see why this bothers you so much when it comes to Daryl.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122/36 "2011-02-04T19:11:12Z")

</div>

I like the Michael and Holly dynamic. Some of the captions for the cartoon were lame though. Especially Darryl’s, who acted as if he was an expert.

Good episode though. Very sweet.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122/37 "2011-02-04T19:17:24Z")

</div>

> [@Pashnish\_Ewing](#):
>
> Uh, maybe he figured he wouldn’t need either one while doing his business?

But why would he have bothered to take them out of his pockets? Hell, he didn’t even take off his overcoat before going in.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![koufax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@koufax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koufax)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122/38 "2011-02-04T19:31:22Z")

</div>

> [@Joey\_P](#):
>
> That drives me nuts. In some of the other shows I watched (notably Six Feet Under and Sopranos, but also Seinfeld when it comes up) there would be people that would bitch and moan every single week about it. I never understood why they would continue to watch it. No one is forcing you to watch the show. You don’t have to like it. It’s perfectly acceptable to watch something else instead, millions of people do it. All we ask is that you don’t shit on our thread.

As I stated last year at about the same time, I don’t WATCH it, I MONITOR it.

But seriously, I think this show has an amazingly talented cast, but the writers and the 399 “producers” ruin it (IN MY OPINION) with completely unrealistic scenarios.

No show has to be perfect, but they can’t treat the audience like idiots either.

It actually has some very funny moments (like when they showed the pictures of Michael and then Creed with “thief” on them) and the beginning was clever. I think Mindy is VERY funny.

But they get lazy with the unrealistic scenarios. All they had to do was have Michael leave his coat with the phone and wallet in Jim’s car.

And then Jim is pounding on the bathroom door and yelling, but Michael doesn’t hear him but walks out the door like everything is ok?

And why wouldn’t Jim tell the camera crew to tell Michael where he went?

Like I stated above, I love the great cast, and the plots are actually clever (Holly knowing how Michael thinks) but you would think that at least one of the 700 producers could help improve the script.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![koufax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@koufax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koufax)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122/39 "2011-02-04T19:33:31Z")

</div>

> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
>
> But why would he have bothered to take them out of his pockets? Hell, he didn’t even take off his overcoat before going in.

exactly

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122/40 "2011-02-04T19:34:16Z")

</div>

When I drive/ride in cars, I often empty my pockets into the drink holders. It’s more comfortable that way, ESPECIALLY when wearing suit pants.

As far as I can tell, the only reason Daryll is upstairs now is so that he can be on camera more often. Has he shown up in the opening credits yet?

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122.md?page=1)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-04-feb-2011/570122.md?page=3)
