# The Office: 1/18

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-1-18/388545>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 19, 2007, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-1-18/388545 "2007-01-19T02:21:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-1-18/388545/41 "2007-01-19T21:12:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Frostillicus]  
The Andy character is becoming a complete freak, with no traits that anyone can even remotely relate to. Nobody acts that frickin’ weird in an office setting. It is time for Ed Helms to go.  
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I read that Ed Helms was signed for a specific number of episodes, so it’s not like the writers weren’t planning on getting rid of the character.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-1-18/388545/42 "2007-01-19T21:28:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Merijeek]  
From what happened, I’d not expected to see him after tonight.

I do feel for Karen, though.

I’ve noticed all this season that Ryan has become a total dick. Too bad, I like him. Or liked him, anyways.

-Joe  
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Ryan never really struck me as being cool with respect to Jim anyway, always sort of distant and preturbed. I mean he clearly thinks the place is enough of a circus as it is.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-1-18/388545/43 "2007-01-19T21:30:40Z")

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Lots of great small moments, as usual.

Andy: “I made it on my computer. It took me forrrrrever…”  
Jim: “Well done.”  
Andy: “Thank you muchly.”  
Jim: “…are you going to answer it?”  
Andy: “It was me calling. I just wanted you to hear it.”  
Jim: “Yikes.”

Michael, looking at Oscar’s Lexus SUV: “Nice! German engineering, eh? How many pesos did that run you?”

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**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-1-18/388545/44 "2007-01-19T21:56:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
Then why did he need to pass the phone to her?  
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I figured it was so she could turn the ringer volume all the way up.

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-1-18/388545/45 "2007-01-19T23:49:12Z")

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[QUOTE=jrepka]  
In one of Jim’s first episodes in Stamford he played a prank on Andy and Andy totally _freaked,_ threatening to kill whoever pranked him. Andy’s been a dick (hey, Andy Dick!) all along. A mere device to show us how reasonable and likeable Dwight really is.  
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I came in here to comment on that. Andy’s freakout was foreshadowed way back in his first appearance, the season 3 premiere, where we first saw Jim at the Stanford office and met Karen and Andy. Jim put Andy’s stapler inside a Jell-O mold (just as he did to Dwight in the series pilot\*), and Andy threw a tantrum, kicking over a trash can and demanding to know the culprit. Jim’s bemused, astonished face was priceless there too. So we already knew (but may have forgotten) Andy had a short fuse, and that he could dish it out but couldn’t take it.  
\*Yes, I’ve seen the entire British series, and I know Tim put Gareth’s stapler into a “jelly” first.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-1-18/388545/46 "2007-01-20T00:23:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus]  
Ryan never really struck me as being cool with respect to Jim anyway, always sort of distant and preturbed. I mean he clearly thinks the place is enough of a circus as it is.  
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Ryan has always clearly regarded Dundler-Mifflin as beneath him. He gets along with Jim, but it’s obvious that he doesn’t think very highly of him. In one episode when Jim was going on vacation, he bet “Jim will end up spending a weekend in Philly”. He ended up with the desk because “Jim’s a nice guy…that’s why I go the desk”.

To a certain extent Jim IS Ryan plus about five years. At the beginning of the show, Jim made comments about how much useless paper knowledge he had and how he couldn’t handle moving up any higher since that would mean D-M was now his career. Now he’s the number 2 guy in the office. Ryan, like it or not is on the same track.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-1-18/388545/47 "2007-01-20T00:37:28Z")

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“Can I join too?”

“Never”

> [@teemingONE](#):
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> “You didn’t hear? Decapitated. We had a funeral for a bird.” - Creed.

“I’m pretty sure none of that’s real” - Jim

“YOU’RE NOT REAL MAN!” - Creed

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-1-18/388545/48 "2007-01-20T03:02:04Z")

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[QUOTE=SaintCad]  
WoW!!! Was it just me or did the last two episodes feel like a end of season/start of season cliffhanger. IMHO, the writers really schruted it with

1. Andy going psycho so soon. It would have been great to see him go mano a tuna with Jim with Angela playing for good measure.
2. Dwight coming back so soon. Dwight jobhunting and at Staples would have been good for 4-5 episodes.  
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There’s still time for that sort of confrontation, I hope. I think Ed Helms has done a superb job of being a world-class prick and making me hate him. It takes talent to be the bad guy.

Jim’s admission to Karen that he still has feelings for Pam was also a very large admission to himself, methinks.

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**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-1-18/388545/49 "2007-01-20T04:03:57Z")

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Andy has been sent to anger management training in the producer’s cut, which is supposed to keep him out of the office for 10 weeks, although he thinks he will finish in five.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-1-18/388545/50 "2007-01-20T07:01:50Z")

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Did you guys notice that Andy has now dubbed Ryan “Big Turkey”?

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-1-18/388545/51 "2007-01-20T07:07:30Z")

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Oh yeah, one more.

Andy: “TGI Wednesday”  
Andy: "Gonna go home and get my drink on. Get my _Lost_ on.

So Andy is a Lostie? I pegged him as more of a _CSI: Miami_ kind of guy.

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-1-18/388545/52 "2007-01-20T07:10:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Omniscient]  
Did you guys notice that Andy has now dubbed Ryan “Big Turkey”?  
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I noticed that. I assume he saw Ryan eating a turkey sandwich once and the rest is history. 😃

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-1-18/388545/53 "2007-01-20T07:27:03Z")

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If you haven’t watched the producer’s cut yet you must, just so you can watch Phylis shake her maracas for Michael. Good god this show is awesome.

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-1-18/388545/54 "2007-01-20T11:46:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Omniscient]  
If you haven’t watched the producer’s cut yet you must, just so you can watch Phylis shake her maracas for Michael. Good god this show is awesome.  
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They need to expand it to an hour. It’s the shortest 30 minutes in television history.

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**Author:** ![Merkwurdigliebe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Merkwurdigliebe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merkwurdigliebe)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-1-18/388545/55 "2007-01-20T17:25:00Z")

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Okay this is confusing…I am in Denmark, so I buy them from iTunes as they come out. However, I remember all the stuff from the producers cut being in my episode. Also I noticed that it was 28 minutes long instead of 22. I must have that then. Boy I’m glad I got my iTunes account before I moved here!

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-1-18/388545/56 "2007-01-20T18:41:17Z")

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Re: Pam and Jim prank

I guess Jim wouldn’t really have a reason to have Andy’s cell number. It makes sense that Pam could get it since her desk blocks Andy’s view of her hands. Good call.

I too think the show should be an hour. It’s over way too quick.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-1-18/388545/57 "2007-01-20T18:41:34Z")

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They show the producers cuts on NBC’s website. They’re free. You just go there and click on them.

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