# The Office 10/21

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 22, 2010, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997 "2010-10-22T12:53:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997/1 "2010-10-22T12:53:33Z")

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Is it just me, or did Michael show real competence in hiring that new guy away from his competitor? Good move for him. I wonder if, this season, they’re going to let Micheal grow into an actual mature adult and competent manager to let him sign off from the show on a high note.

I thought the “stinger” starring Meredith was a over the top but kinda funny. The B-story, though, with Andy’s band, was kind of lame.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997/2 "2010-10-22T13:26:19Z")

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I found parts of it funny. And overall I thought the episode was enjoyable. But I kept watching it thinking “This show has had a really great run and I’ve really enjoyed it, but it’s past its prime. Just let it go gracefully at the end of this season rather than try to hang on for a few more years without Steve Carell.”

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**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997/3 "2010-10-22T13:40:04Z")

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i wish they did a call-back to dwight needing to be in the car and rock out to pump himself up.

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997/4 "2010-10-22T14:13:20Z")

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Why are they calling themselves Dunder Mifflin again? I watch every episode but don’t exactly study it closely. I don`t recall Sabre ever retaining the Dunder Mifflin brand. Have they really done that consistently? I guess the only thing I distinctly remember is the joke about pronouncing Sabre, but I thought they switched everything and dropped Dunder Mifflin.

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**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997/5 "2010-10-22T14:15:14Z")

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Needed more Angela & Erin.

I thought it was Dundler Mifflin, a division of Sabre, who is still selling paper along with printers.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997/6 "2010-10-22T14:25:16Z")

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And why would a client turn down getting all his paper _at cost_, delivered on the weekends to meet his loading dock schedule?

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997/7 "2010-10-22T14:40:13Z")

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I was amazed and delighted with Michael’s actual competence in this episode. Not just by hiring the evil salesman, but by pointedly telling Dwight and Jim that “I’m not going to turn a guy away away because you feel threatened.”

My God, is Michael becoming an actual _manager_?

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**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997/8 "2010-10-22T14:43:14Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> I was amazed and delighted with Michael’s actual competence in this episode. Not just by hiring the evil salesman, but by pointedly telling Dwight and Jim that “I’m not going to turn a guy away away because you feel threatened.”
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> My God, is Michael becoming an actual _manager_?

Well, he did forget that DM already has a traveling salesman until some time after he hired a new one.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997/9 "2010-10-22T15:33:27Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> And why would a client turn down getting all his paper _at cost_, delivered on the weekends to meet his loading dock schedule?

Man crush, or actual crush, on Timothy Olyphant?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997/10 "2010-10-22T16:23:13Z")

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> [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](#):
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> Why are they calling themselves Dunder Mifflin again? I watch every episode but don’t exactly study it closely. I don`t recall Sabre ever retaining the Dunder Mifflin brand. Have they really done that consistently? I guess the only thing I distinctly remember is the joke about pronouncing Sabre, but I thought they switched everything and dropped Dunder Mifflin.

Sabre never changed the name. They kept it “Dunder Mifflin” ever since the buyout.

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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997/11 "2010-10-22T16:44:23Z")

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I thought this was one of the best episodes in the past 2 or 3 seasons. I can’t remember the last time I laughed so much at it. And Timothy Olyphant!!! I had no trouble believing the client would choose him over Michael’s offers of weekend delivery and getting it at cost because oh my god. Also, it’s nice seeing him play a fairly pleasant guy, not somebody who’s likely to rip your head off.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997/12 "2010-10-22T17:27:48Z")

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My wife noticed that he even swung his arms somewhat as he walked.

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997/13 "2010-10-22T17:46:30Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> My wife noticed that he even swung his arms somewhat as he walked.

I wasn’t even sure it was him, because he smiled! And didn’t clench his jaw even once, from what I saw. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997/14 "2010-10-22T18:08:58Z")

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In the cold open, when Oscar says, “I can’t wait to get up in the morning,” Pam says, “oookay,” as if Oscar had said something inappropriate. What was the deal with that?

And it took me like three viewings to figure out that Kelly was saying “I’m on Sheryl Crow’s side on that.” I had no idea what she was saying.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997/15 "2010-10-22T18:11:53Z")

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Pam was reigning in his over-the-top enthusiam.

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**Author:** ![Gestalt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@Gestalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gestalt)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997/16 "2010-10-22T18:43:20Z")

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I think it will be interesting to have a new, charismatic, competent, normal guy to rival Jim. He’s been getting a little complacent.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997/17 "2010-10-22T19:41:08Z")

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> [@Gestalt](#):
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> I think it will be interesting to have a new, charismatic, competent, normal guy to rival Jim. He’s been getting a little complacent.

Unless this is supposed to be the introduction of a multi-episode story arc, I think we’ll rarely if ever see him again. How many times have we seen Packer?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997/18 "2010-10-22T19:51:50Z")

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How can this be anything else but the start of a multi-episode story arc?

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997/19 "2010-10-22T20:16:32Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> How can this be anything else but the start of a multi-episode story arc?

I wouldn’t be shocked if it was a one-off. The tag at the end about remembering that D-M already has a traveling salesman makes writing Corrdray out simple.

Not that I wouldn’t like to see a multi-arc with the sales staff trying to cope with an actual effective and sane salesman.

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-10-21/557997/20 "2010-10-22T20:27:58Z")

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I think we’ll see him more than Packer. At least I think we’ll see him here and there, (at least this season). I wasn’t a fan of his goofy grin. Of course on some message boards he’s hated by “Jam fans”. If Jim get’s a hangnail, people will complain.

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