# The Office: 11/16 (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 17, 2006, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773 "2006-11-17T02:32:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/1 "2006-11-17T02:32:18Z")
This show has really grown on me. I actually like it more than the UK version now. Pam having to deal with Jim moving on with his life should be interesting and --oddly enough-- it feels realistic to me, rather than just a device to obstruct the relationship. Andy’s constant pwnage of Dwight, while funny, actually made me start to feel sorry for Dwight. Andy needs way more of a smackdown than Dwight ever did. And he raises sucking up to the level of an art form. It’s going to be fun watching the the Stamford people try to integrate in Scranton. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/2 "2006-11-17T03:44:36Z")
Andy and Dwight are two sides of a cheap brass coin, both trying to figure out which is heads and which the tail. Something’s gotta give there as that intensity can’t be maintained, it’ll wear viewers out. Good, but unsustainably contentious. There seemed to be a whole lot more plot development in this one. Events wern’t alluded to and left to ponder, they were devivered with a Mack truck. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/3 "2006-11-17T03:45:48Z")
Was I the only one thinking that Michael’s firing of Tony was one of his idiot savant moments where he does something totally positive without actually trying? I felt like he knew they’d be paying him severance and unemployment and that was the point, sort of like his miraculous sales from the convention. I’m SO into the new girl. Poor Pam. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/4 "2006-11-17T03:59:29Z")
Dwight: In terms of speed, I’m somewhere between a snake and a mongoose. I love this show! ---
**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/5 "2006-11-17T04:06:24Z")
I love this show so much. The looks Pam gives are just so perfect. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/6 "2006-11-17T04:47:47Z")
The look Stanley gave was even better – when the new black guy gave him the little “Hey, my brother” chest thump. That look on Stanley’s face cracked me up! And even though the Scrantonies always bug each other – it’s clear they are used to each other now, even comfortable. Very nicely portrayed how the new people were irritating them in teeny little ways, and vice versa. Andy is the Supreme Suck-Up Brown-Noser of the World. And the funny part is that Michael doesn’t recognize it in him, but always sees it in Dwight. The whole time Andy and Dwight were infighting over who is the “#2 guy”, I kept thinking, “Wait, I thought Jim was supposed to be the #2 in charge now” – from the previous episode about the whole merger thing. I’m glad they remembered that little detail, and it came back by the end. Jim as Dwight’s boss – Dwight will be hating it! ---
**Author:** ![Operation\_Ripper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/34f0e0/32.png) [@Operation\_Ripper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Operation_Ripper)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/7 "2006-11-17T04:54:22Z")
Anyone like me sorta think Jim should stick with Stanford Girl instead of weanieing back to Pam, who kicks him to the curb everytime? She even did it again in this epi when she kind of blew him off (not in a good way) in the parking lot. SG \> Pam IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/8 "2006-11-17T04:54:51Z")
[QUOTE=Omniscient] Was I the only one thinking that Michael’s firing of Tony was one of his idiot savant moments where he does something totally positive without actually trying? I felt like he knew they’d be paying him severance and unemployment and that was the point, sort of like his miraculous sales from the convention. [/QUOTE] Well, I didn’t think that was the reason Michael did it. And certainly it’s good for Tony, but not for the company (from management’s standpoint), and so not good for Michael. I got the impression that Michael did the “you’re fired” bit due to ego. If it was somebody else as the reason behind Tony wanting to quit, he would have been fine with it. But he couldn’t cope with the idea that it was his “management style”. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/9 "2006-11-17T05:04:03Z")
I thought the plug for the shredder was excessive. (Kevin was happily shredding documents from Stamford, then a CD and finally his own credit card, and then a commercial for the same shredder appeared during the next commercial break.) ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/10 "2006-11-17T05:04:30Z")
[QUOTE=Operation Ripper] Anyone like me sorta think Jim should stick with Stanford Girl instead of weanieing back to Pam, who kicks him to the curb everytime? She even did it again in this epi when she kind of blew him off (not in a good way) in the parking lot. SG \> Pam IMHO. [/QUOTE] I’m totally with you. He laid it out there for Pam and she said no. Karen (the Stamford hottie) is likable, attractive, funny and into him. Plus she isn’t playing any games with him. I’d go for her too. I don’t blame Jim at all for trying to act like a grown-up, respecting a woman’s rejection and moving on with his life. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/11 "2006-11-17T05:16:53Z")
[QUOTE=Monstre] The look Stanley gave was even better – when the new black guy gave him the little “Hey, my brother” chest thump. That look on Stanley’s face cracked me up! [/QUOTE] Goddamn. I came into this thread just to post this. I have _never_ laughed harder at a TV show than I did at that moment. Stanley usually cracks me up, but this was on a whole 'nother level. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/12 "2006-11-17T05:17:31Z")
[QUOTE=Dewey Finn] I thought the plug for the shredder was excessive. (Kevin was happily shredding documents from Stamford, then a CD and finally his own credit card, and then a commercial for the same shredder appeared during the next commercial break.) [/QUOTE] I groaned when I saw it, especially considering the premise of _30 Rock_ shortly after this, but I forgave it because I know plenty of people who have that unbridled glee for shredders. Too true and too funny. Kevin is just the one who you’d expect in that group too. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/13 "2006-11-17T05:19:28Z")
Other good stuff: Kevin’s glee over using the shredder. (Then using it to make salad). Kelly telling Jim what’s “new with her” – consisting solely of celebrity babies. Andy: “You have such a pretty smile!” (to Angela… who never smiles.) New Gal: “How do people work?” Phyllis: “Oh, we find little times during the day…” * * * And this one just killed me: Michael: “Can’t we all just get along?! Or have we forgotten the words of the Reverend King?” ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/14 "2006-11-17T05:23:04Z")
The ending insult-off gave me the biggest laugh of the week, I must say. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/15 "2006-11-17T05:23:11Z")
[QUOTE=Omniscient] I groaned when I saw it, especially considering the premise of _30 Rock_ shortly after this, but I forgave it because I know plenty of people who have that unbridled glee for shredders. Too true and too funny. Kevin is just the one who you’d expect in that group too. [/QUOTE] The shredder was especially funny to me, because the person I was watching the show with tonight IS one of those people with unbridled glee for shredders – and she loved that bit. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/16 "2006-11-17T05:33:48Z")
[QUOTE=Doctor Who] Goddamn. I came into this thread just to post this. I have _never_ laughed harder at a TV show than I did at that moment. Stanley usually cracks me up, but this was on a whole 'nother level. [/QUOTE] Me too. That look from Stanley was priceless. Definitely the biggest laugh of the show. ---
**Author:** ![stochastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@stochastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stochastic)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/17 "2006-11-17T05:49:28Z")
[QUOTE=Omniscient] I groaned when I saw it, especially considering the premise of _30 Rock_ shortly after this, but I forgave it because I know plenty of people who have that unbridled glee for shredders. Too true and too funny. Kevin is just the one who you’d expect in that group too. [/QUOTE] I too was bugged by the obvious product-placement whoring. But they made up for it by humorously acknowledging they were doing this intentionally when Kevin was asked where he got the salad…“From Staples!” That cracked me up, and got me thinking that I should grab a head of lettuce, head down to my local Staples and and try it out on the floor model of that shredder; just to see if it works as advertised. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/18 "2006-11-17T06:41:14Z")
I missed the last half because of the damn supersizing (which caused it to bleed into what is already a crowded hour of television). I went to the website to try to watch the episode online, but couldn’t get it to work for me, even though there was a “Full Episode” link. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/19 "2006-11-17T08:38:00Z")
Aside from the numerous hilarious parts, and they were numerous, I thought the best dramatic acting/writing/directing was how excited Pam was, like she was just so giddy and just so waiting for some brilliant perfect hilarious Jim/Pam moment, which she’d been missing so much. And of course the reality couldn’t live up to that, even ignoring the fact that Jim had kinda moved on. I thought that was played just perfectly. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/20 "2006-11-17T11:35:14Z")
[QUOTE=Monstre] Kelly telling Jim what’s “new with her” – consisting solely of celebrity babies. [/QUOTE] This was also funny to me because it’s not like the news in Stamford wouldn’t have let Jim know of these important life events. But of course, to Kelly, it happened in her little world and in her little world alone. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773.md?page=2)