# The Office: 11/16 (open spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 17, 2006, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773 "2006-11-17T02:32:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/41 "2006-11-17T16:08:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Dante]  
I’m just not buying the Creed character anymore. It’s not like he just has the minor quirks of the other characters. He’s WAY over the line.  
[/QUOTE]

And Michael isn’t?

I liked the party:  
“Ooh, champagne”  
“Only for the new people”

And  
“Who’s Bob Vance?”  
“You have a lot to learn about Scranton”

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/42 "2006-11-17T16:15:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Dinsdale]  
By far my favorite show these days. Anyone else agree with me that **Office** has dramatically improved as **Earl** has plateaued or even declined?  
[/QUOTE]  
100%

I couldn’t believe the love in the Earl thread this week. I thought that was a really poor episode.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/43 "2006-11-17T16:15:23Z")

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And, didn’t the Stamford manager, who backed out of his promotion and forced the office closing, accept a job at … Staples?

When Toby handed Kevin a box that said “Dunder Mifflin Stamfor Office Personnel Files” and told him to take care of it, I totally thought they were setting Kevin up to shred important files that Toby wanted, you know, filed (although I don’t know why Kevin would be doing Toby’s filing).

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/44 "2006-11-17T16:17:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Dinsdale]  
The line that had me rolling was Michael’s desperate, “I’m in his CRACK!”  
[/QUOTE]  
“I’ve got this hock!”

My favorite was

“I saw your car in the parking lot, what does it get like four miles per gallon?”  
“Try twice that!”

“X-Terra isn’t even a real word!” [and Trans Am is?? 😛]

Ed Helms vs Rainn Wilson was brilliant.  
Pam actually starting looking plain to me in the face of the other girl, not just her looks but the way she was carrying herself. And as mentioned before, it’s great that they make the other girl attractive and likeable and not a stereotypical bitch you wonder why Jim is with. And it makes it clear that he could like anyone who gets his humor and enjoys it, not necessarily just Pam.

“Jim’s a nice guy. And that’s why I got the desk.”

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**Author:** ![The\_Dumbest\_Guy\_in\_the\_Room](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@The\_Dumbest\_Guy\_in\_the\_Room](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Dumbest_Guy_in_the_Room)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/45 "2006-11-17T16:37:21Z")

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Was Lazy Scranton supposed to be a parody of something?

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/46 "2006-11-17T16:41:40Z")

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[QUOTE=The Dumbest Guy in the Room]  
Was Lazy Scranton supposed to be a parody of something?  
[/QUOTE]

Yes. It was a parody of the “Lazy Sunday” short film/video that was on Saturday Night Live last year.  
You should be able to find it fairly easy on youtube.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/47 "2006-11-17T16:49:17Z")

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So, does an old Trans Am really get 8MPG?

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/48 "2006-11-17T17:02:02Z")

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[QUOTE=jacob wrestling]  
Good for Jim for moving on. It should be interesting watching Pam wallow for a while. Not forever though, ok writers? Please please please don’t go Ross and Rachel on us.  
[/QUOTE]  
Especially since Pam is Jim’s lobster.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/49 "2006-11-17T17:19:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Merijeek]  
So, does an old Trans Am really get 8MPG?

-Joe  
[/QUOTE]  
Maybe downhill with a tail wind.

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/50 "2006-11-17T17:31:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Dinsdale]  
The line that had me rolling was Michael’s desperate, “I’m in his CRACK!”

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I felt sorry for the fat guy. That scene was painful to watch.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/51 "2006-11-17T17:39:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Merijeek]  
So, does an old Trans Am really get 8MPG?

-Joe  
[/QUOTE]

I actually had that car (mine was an '85 his is an '87 but close enough). I averaged about 13 MPG. But, if you drive around with your foot in the carb, you could easily get less than 8 MPG.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/52 "2006-11-17T17:47:13Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
Maybe downhill with a tail wind.  
[/QUOTE]  
And there was a time when nobody, okay, nearly nobody, gave it a second thought.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/53 "2006-11-17T17:48:23Z")

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[QUOTE=brewha]  
I actually had that car (mine was an '85 his is an '87 but close enough).  
[/QUOTE]  
“1985 is calling. It wants its car back.” 🙂

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**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/54 "2006-11-17T17:53:53Z")

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[QUOTE=dropzone]  
“1985 is calling. It wants its car back.” 🙂  
[/QUOTE]

Well then, 1985 must have a time machine, because my car’s an '87!

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/55 "2006-11-17T18:10:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Kalhoun]  
I felt sorry for the fat guy. That scene was painful to watch.  
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It was on the _ **Curb Your Enthusiasm** _ level of the cringe-o-meter for me. I was saying out loud, “No…stop…please, I can’t watch this…stop!”

And yes to **Trunk** and **Dinsdale** —I don’t even watch Earl anymore.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/56 "2006-11-17T18:14:58Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
Maybe downhill with a tail wind.  
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So what can one realistically expect from one? It seemed bizarre to me that he was defending his car by saying it got “double” four MPG.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/57 "2006-11-17T18:44:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Hampshire]  
Yes. It was a parody of the “Lazy Sunday” short film/video that was on Saturday Night Live last year.  
You should be able to find it fairly easy on youtube.  
[/QUOTE]

Actually NBC had them removed from You Tube but you can see it at NBC here:

> **[Watch - NBC.com](https://www.nbc.com/video/videos/snl_1432_narnia.shtml)**
>
> Watch - NBC.com

And you can actually see “Lazy Scranton” here:

> **[Browse "A-Z" - NBC.com](https://www.nbc.com/shows)**
>
> Browse "A-Z" to find your favorite show in the NBCUniversal family of networks on NBC.com!

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/58 "2006-11-17T19:11:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Kalhoun]  
I felt sorry for the fat guy. That scene was painful to watch.  
[/QUOTE]

I agree.  
At first I couldn’t believe he was gonna try to get the guy on the table. Absolutely wrenching.

Then against my wishes I had to laugh at “I’ve got this hock!”  
Then it went a little longer such that it became really uncomfortable - until I almost died when he hollered that he was “in his crack!”  
Then, whipsawed back to respect for the big guy for quitting.

I think it is an extremely short list of shows/flicks that can convey and switch between emotions this effectively.

The fat guy really did a helluva job with what could have been a very minor and stereotyped role.

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/59 "2006-11-17T19:21:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Merijeek]  
It seemed bizarre to me that he was defending his car by saying it got “double” four MPG.

-Joe  
[/QUOTE]

Dwight isn’t exactly the king of logic. He’s been known to say something completely preposterous and think he really “burned” someone, like last night when he said that he’s really won their ‘idiot’ exchange.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-16-open-spoilers/380773/60 "2006-11-17T20:00:45Z")

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I really expected Michael to make a Noah reference.  
The office had two hot girls, two black guys, two suck ups and two fat guys.  
This was really a spectacular episode.  
I like that Michael still managed to complete his goal of uniting everyone…against him.  
I still don’t like Karen though. She’s completely uninteresting to me.

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