# The Office - 11/29/12 - The Target

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 30, 2012, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592 "2012-11-30T18:14:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592/1 "2012-11-30T18:14:41Z")

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Angela knows about Oscar and her husband. Jim needs a favor from Stanley and Phyllis. Pam starts her Mural. Pete builds a tower of complaint cards.

Overall, it wasn’t bad, although I don’t think Angela would want Oscar killed… that’s a bit extreme. I actually liked the Jim plot. I also like Pete, and hope he ends up with Erin.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592/2 "2012-11-30T18:24:42Z")

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I thought this was one of the best episodes they’ve done in awhile. Everything worked for me and Dwight came off really well (except for his nude “exercising” I guess).

Anybody else want to hear what Darryl sounds like eating spaghetti?

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592/3 "2012-11-30T18:48:09Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> Anybody else want to hear what Darryl sounds like eating spaghetti?

I expect a lot of slurping and moans of pleasure.

Agree Dwight was good, and I like the new guy and his tower, but I thought the other stuff was pretty meh.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592/4 "2012-11-30T18:59:28Z")

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Dwight and Angela talking to Toby about gays was one of the funniest scenes on the show ever.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592/5 "2012-11-30T19:25:04Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Dwight and Angela talking to Toby about gays was one of the funniest scenes on the show ever.

Couldn’t agree more. I was howling at that scene.

“Is it called red-vining? I heard it was called red-vining.”

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592/6 "2012-11-30T20:07:41Z")

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The new guy and his house of cards was funny, but what was up with Pam calling a customer to insult them, just so they could add a card (representing a customer complaint and a lost account) to the stack? That seemed completely irrational. Do any of them actually want their company to succeed?

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592/7 "2012-11-30T20:14:38Z")

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“Oh we’ve got all afternoon to talk about that.”  
“Morning, folks.”  
“I’ll take the surf and turf with a side of lobster.”  
“Well actually the surf and turf comes with lobster…”  
“Not enough lobster. Side order.”  
“How much wine do you have?”

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592/8 "2012-11-30T20:54:02Z")

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They’re obviously setting everyone up for a happy ending which is nice. My predictions:

Jim’s new business is a huge success and he gets to quit D-M to do something he loves. He brings Darrell, Stanley and Phyllis with him to the new business.

Since Jim makes enough money, Pam can focus on her art full time and becomes a success of her own.

Erin and Andy live happily ever after, married and working at D-M which they love. The new dude works their too but we see a glimmer that he will eventually end up successful like Jim.

The Senator ends up with Oscar. Angela ends up married to Dwight. Angela and Dwight become tolerant and the four of them co-parent the kid.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592/9 "2012-11-30T20:59:36Z")

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Hated it. It really drove home how far this series has fallen. A paid-for attempted murder (involving someone comically terrible at it) all caught on camera in an episode where that very camera crew is acknowledged.

The show is now officially a live-action cartoon.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592/10 "2012-11-30T21:14:45Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> The new guy and his house of cards was funny, but what was up with Pam calling a customer to insult them, just so they could add a card (representing a customer complaint and a lost account) to the stack? That seemed completely irrational. Do any of them actually want their company to succeed?

She was afraid to start on the mural because she was afraid of making a mistake, she was the only one in the whole office who had never made a mistake or had a complaint. It was a way to just let go and stop worrying about screwing up. And no, i think none of them give much of a shit about the company.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592/11 "2012-12-01T16:02:45Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> The new guy and his house of cards was funny, but what was up with Pam calling a customer to insult them, just so they could add a card (representing a customer complaint and a lost account) to the stack? That seemed completely irrational. Do any of them actually want their company to succeed?

It’s a comedy show.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592/12 "2012-12-01T16:06:05Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> The Senator ends up with Oscar. Angela ends up married to Dwight. Angela and Dwight become tolerant and the four of them co-parent the kid.

It’s kind of shame they made that attempt at a Dwight spin off because I believe if that hadn’t existed they would have made the baby Dwight’s which would make the happy ending much easier.

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592/13 "2012-12-01T19:43:39Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> It’s kind of shame they made that attempt at a Dwight spin off because I believe if that hadn’t existed they would have made the baby Dwight’s which would make the happy ending much easier.

What…no spin-off??

How about Dwight’s buddy the assassin? He was great…has he appeared before?

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592/14 "2012-12-01T20:13:05Z")

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> [@What\_the](#):
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> What…no spin-off??
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> How about Dwight’s buddy the assassin? He was great…has he appeared before?

According to Rainn Wilson on Twitter, NBC decided not to go with The Farm and the pilot will air as an episode of The Office.

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592/15 "2012-12-03T14:33:01Z")

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> [@Red\_Barchetta](#):
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> Hated it. It really drove home how far this series has fallen. A paid-for attempted murder (involving someone comically terrible at it) all caught on camera in an episode where that very camera crew is acknowledged.
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> The show is now officially a live-action cartoon.

Agreed. It was a terrible half-hour of television.

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**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592/16 "2012-12-03T16:10:25Z")

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Eh… I thought it had elements of the old office carried out to new office extremes. Overall it was nice to see the old elements but it may not have been similar enough to win everyone over. I at least applaud the effort if not the execution.

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**Author:** ![romadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@romadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romadea)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592/17 "2012-12-03T17:25:22Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> They’re obviously setting everyone up for a happy ending which is nice. My predictions:
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> 1. Jim’s new business is a huge success and he gets to quit D-M to do something he loves. He brings Darrell, Stanley and Phyllis with him to the new business.
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> Since Jim makes enough money, Pam can focus on her art full time and becomes a success of her own.
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> 1. Erin and Andy live happily ever after, married and working at D-M which they love. The new dude works their too but we see a glimmer that he will eventually end up successful like Jim.
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> 2. The Senator ends up with Oscar. Angela ends up married to Dwight. Angela and Dwight become tolerant and the four of them co-parent the kid.

(I added numbers)

1. Agree. But I think DM will finally go out of business at the end.

2. Disagree. Erin and Pete are going to get together! The house of cards scene where he’s giving an inspirational speech and she’s smiling at him. The scene where they go out to dinner. The scene where he shaves his moustache for her. I really, really miss Kelly. I wish Mindy could have stuck around for just one more season. I feel like Kelly would have picked up on this immediately and intervened in a hilarious way.

3. Probably. I hope so. I’ve been hoping for a while that it will turn out the DNA test was a fluke and the baby really is Dwight’s, but that’s not going to happen. I’ve always liked Oscar but I’m kind of disgusted with him at this point.

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592/18 "2012-12-03T19:42:05Z")

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I agree that between Andy taking his boat trip without Erin, and Pete making eyes at her (and being a genuinely nice guy), that E&P will end up together at the end of the season.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592/19 "2012-12-03T20:16:53Z")

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> [@romadea](#):
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> 1. Disagree. Erin and Pete are going to get together! The house of cards scene where he’s giving an inspirational speech and she’s smiling at him. The scene where they go out to dinner. The scene where he shaves his moustache for her.

Well, yeah, that was about as subtle as a sledge hammer. But New Guy is being a manipulative dick and it will backfire on him and Andy will get the girl. They are adding that tension for drama.

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-11-29-12-the-target/642592/20 "2012-12-03T20:18:34Z")

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I laughed out loud at Hide’s shouting up at Pam “You are bad painter!”

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