# The Office 12/4 "The Surplus" (spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 5, 2008, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800 "2008-12-05T02:47:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800/41 "2008-12-05T23:49:58Z")

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> [@SmellMyWort](#):
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> Did anyone else notice Michael pouring sugar into what looked like an energy drink:eek:?

It looked like he was pouring it into Diet Coke to me.

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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800/42 "2008-12-06T00:13:09Z")

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A can of diet Wegman’s (regional rocery store chain) [diet cola](https://www.wegmans.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10052&catalogId=10002&productId=378005) to be specific, but pepperlandgirl’s right.

The Office is great about getting local props and references on.

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800/43 "2008-12-06T01:27:43Z")

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> [@SmellMyWort](#):
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> Did anyone else notice Michael pouring sugar into what looked like an energy drink:eek:?

It was a Wegmans soda. The Wegmans pop/soda’s are in many episodes.  
I work at Wegmans, I don’t understand why it must infiltrate every aspect of my life. 🙂  
I can’t escape it.

Edit: Sorry, I didn’t read down to see if it was already answered.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800/44 "2008-12-06T01:31:10Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> It was a Wegmans soda. The Wegmans pop/soda’s are in many episodes.  
> I work at Wegmans, I don’t understand why it must infiltrate every aspect of my life. 🙂  
> I can’t escape it.

I face the direction of Wegmans when I pray. 😉 Wegmans rules.

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800/45 "2008-12-06T01:34:57Z")

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Say a prayer my way next time you do so. Haha.  
It’s not bad to work there, but it is work. It’s a great place to shop.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800/46 "2008-12-06T02:13:25Z")

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Wow, can’t believe that no one’s mentioned the best line yet:

_Oscar:_ “Michael, what’s 15% of 4,300?”  
_Michael (instantly):_ “645 dollars.”  
_Kevin:_ “Michael’s a genius!”

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800/47 "2008-12-06T02:35:27Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> I’m surprised everyone is neutral or positive towards this episode. I thought it was by far the worst of the season. Everything just went too far, was too exaggerated. Michael suffered from Homer Simpson disease even more than usual. Jim and Pam in conflict came instantly out of nowhere with no build up. I was SURE that they couldn’t be doing a “they are really getting married” thing because this show is too good to do something dumb like that.  
> Well, to each his own I guess.

Heh. I found this to be the funniest episode of a lackluster season so far. I caught my self laughing outloud many times. Like you say, to each his own.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800/48 "2008-12-06T03:43:35Z")

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> [@corkboard](#):
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> I’m convinced that underneath that uptight bitch exterior, Angela is a wildcat in the bedroom. A wildcat, I tells ya.

I have lost EIGHT deposits and seen Angela naked ZERO times. I’m not losing another deposit.

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800/49 "2008-12-06T04:18:47Z")

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> [@Euthanasiast](#):
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> And it would have been the best episode EVER!

My point exactly.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800/50 "2008-12-06T04:22:57Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> I have lost EIGHT deposits and seen Angela naked ZERO times. I’m not losing another deposit.

It’s lines like these that have made Andy my favorite character this season.

And the continuous shot of Michael walking through the office with everyone sucking up to him (except for Toby) was great.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800/51 "2008-12-06T04:35:38Z")

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Michael had an off week. Litigation value: [zero.](http://employmentlawpost.com/thatswhatshesaid/)

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**Author:** ![Thunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a8b319/32.png) [@Thunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thunder)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800/52 "2008-12-06T05:08:01Z")

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Andy had some line about a “threesome” at the planning table. I just cracked up on that one.

Anybody help me remember that?

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**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800/53 "2008-12-06T07:22:59Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> I have lost EIGHT deposits and seen Angela naked ZERO times. I’m not losing another deposit.

This was a great line and I like that Andy is getting fed up with Angela.

I was expecting Jim would surprise Pam by buying her a new chair himself. That would have been lame and the actual episode’s resolution was much better.

I vote for funny episode and it needed to be after last week’s stinker.

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800/54 "2008-12-06T23:04:39Z")

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> [@Casey1505](#):
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> A can of diet Wegman’s (regional rocery store chain) [diet cola](https://www.wegmans.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10052&catalogId=10002&productId=378005) to be specific, but pepperlandgirl’s right.
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> The Office is great about getting local props and references on.

It was my guess that he stole somebody’s diet soda, but doesn’t like diet soda so he poured sugar in it. And from the looks of the way he did it, he does this regularly.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2008, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800/55 "2008-12-07T03:23:15Z")

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> [@Sigmagirl](#):
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> But you notice Oscar didn’t tell him he could have gotten the bonus. He never mentioned the option; he told Michael **only** that the money had to be spent. It would have more ethical on his part to have told Michael that a) they could spend the money and get it in the budget next year, or b) they could not spend the money and Michael would get the bonus and they would not get it in the budget next year.
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> Of course, that would mean Oscar would have to explain it to Michael in terms a _4-year-old_ could understand. Shutting up was the best part of valor here.

Oh, yeah. Oscar’s one of the competents working there.

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2008, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800/56 "2008-12-07T03:44:57Z")

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Suddenly, after this episode, I can imagine Pam getting freaky and BDSM with me.

I mean, with Jim. That’s what I meant.

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**Author:** ![drpepper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@drpepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drpepper)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2008, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800/57 "2008-12-07T04:17:55Z")

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> [@Thunder](#):
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> Andy had some line about a “threesome” at the planning table. I just cracked up on that one.
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> Anybody help me remember that?

Wasn’t it “Let’s three-way this”? [in reference to the discussion, which up to that point had just been Angela bickering with Dwight]

I agree that I’m really enjoying Andy’s character this season as it’s filled out a bit.

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**Author:** ![Motorgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Motorgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Motorgirl)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2008, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800/58 "2008-12-07T13:45:07Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> It was a Wegmans soda. The Wegmans pop/soda’s are in many episodes.  
> I work at Wegmans, I don’t understand why it must infiltrate every aspect of my life. 🙂  
> I can’t escape it.
> 
> Edit: Sorry, I didn’t read down to see if it was already answered.

I love Wegmans. If you work there, I love you. It’s part of the deal when you’re a member of the cult of Wegmans.

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**Author:** ![carlb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carlb/32/5930_2.png) [@carlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlb)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2008, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800/59 "2008-12-07T14:28:03Z")

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Count me as a fan of the episode. When I heard the set-up, that Michael had to spend $4,300 by the end of the day, I was sure that it was going to turn into another of those totally over-the-top episodes where Michael come up with some hare-brained idea that, in the real world, would get him fired and expose the company to huge liability. Instead, it stayed kind of realistic, albeit exaggerated.

When I heard him on the phone with David Wallace, I almost screamed, “You idiot! You don’t tell the boss you have a surplus. That negates the effect of spending it - he’ll know it was there anyway.” The bonus was an interesting twist.

I’m a big fan of post-New York, more self-assured Pam. She used to be cute as hell. Now, she’s smoking hot.

Agreed, Creed had the line of the night. I also love that _every_ time we get a shot of Creed’s desk he’s got a solitaire game running. I’m waiting for the day they put something else on his computer, just to see who’s paying attention to the backgrounds. SDMB, maybe?

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2008, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-12-4-the-surplus-spoilers/475800/60 "2008-12-07T16:20:51Z")

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> [@carlb](#):
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> Agreed, Creed had the line of the night. I also love that _every_ time we get a shot of Creed’s desk he’s got a solitaire game running. I’m waiting for the day they put something else on his computer, just to see who’s paying attention to the backgrounds. SDMB, maybe?

In an earlier season, Ryan set up a Word document that Creed believes is an online blog; I’d like to see Creed writing in it sometime, partly just to see how he types. I’d guess two-finger, and hitting the keyboard really hard. (I still hit the keyboard hard, over thirty years after learning to type on an old Royal manual.)

The scene where Michael phones David and asks him to make the decision “so I won’t be the bad guy”, I wondered momentarily (not for the first time) how David can possibly keep Michael on as a manager. Then again, I can believe in the home office just not caring, as long as the numbers coming out of Scranton are still good.

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