# The Office - 4/11 - Stairmageddon **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 12, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512 "2013-04-12T15:45:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512/21 "2013-04-13T19:52:06Z")
There’s a petition to supersize The Office series finale. I DON’T want to have to rent the damn DVD to see the full finale… so I signed it. I hope not to get junk mail. > **[Petition to supersize The Office series finale!](https://www.officetally.com/petition-to-supersize-the-office-series-finale)** > > The Office ends its nine-year run this May with a one-hour series finale episode. Executive Producer Greg Daniels, however, needs more time. May 7: TVLine reports that The Office finale Why are they still filming if the documentary is already available? ---
**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512/22 "2013-04-14T01:51:14Z")
“Senator, were you always gay or did your wife make you gay?” “I have a question for the beard.” ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512/23 "2013-04-14T23:36:15Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > Why are they still filming if the documentary is already available? So they can make more seasons, I assume. Of course why they waited 10 years to even show the first season is pretty weird, but it’s just a show, so we should really just relax. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512/24 "2013-04-15T00:12:10Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > There’s a petition to supersize The Office series finale. I DON’T want to have to rent the damn DVD to see the full finale… so I signed it. I hope not to get junk mail. > > [Petition to supersize The Office series finale! • OfficeTally](http://www.officetally.com/petition-to-supersize-the-office-series-finale) > > Why are they still filming if the documentary is already available? It would make an interesting epilogue to show later to see how the group reacted to the documentary. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512/25 "2013-04-16T17:56:03Z")
Were they fuzzing the feathering on the tranquilizer darts? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512/26 "2013-04-16T18:07:57Z")
“Just say arms and legs. That’s the vernacular I’m comfortable with.” ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512/27 "2013-04-16T18:29:16Z")
They are just making Pam come off so badly you start to root against her. ---
**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512/28 "2013-04-16T18:56:05Z")
I actually thought Toby had the best line of the show “Kelly totally called it. 2013” on Jim and Pam’s demise. And I agree with DigitalC, they are making Pam the bad guy. Jim was incredibly supportive when she ran off to art school. Now he is trying a dream of his and she is crapping on him at every chance. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512/29 "2013-04-16T19:02:54Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > Just the sight of the mouse sitting on the cat sitting on the dog absolutely slays me for some reason… one of my favorite sight gags ever. You should head down to Santa Barbara. There’s a guy on State Street who just hangs out with a dog, cat, and rat on each other. [Here’s a picture](http://img.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/tdomf/32893/Dog_Cat_Mouse062707a-500x681.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512/30 "2013-04-16T19:08:34Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > You should head down to Santa Barbara. There’s a guy on State Street who just hangs out with a dog, cat, and rat on each other. > > [Here’s a picture](http://img.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/tdomf/32893/Dog_Cat_Mouse062707a-500x681.jpg) Ha! I meant to post about that dude. I haven’t seen him in years though. I think that he’s fairly transient and moves his schtick from city to city. ---
**Author:** ![araminty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5e925/32.png) [@araminty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/araminty)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512/31 "2013-04-16T19:12:01Z")
That’s a mouse, not a rat. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512/32 "2013-04-16T21:29:56Z")
> [@xizor](#): > > I actually thought Toby had the best line of the show > “Kelly totally called it. 2013” > on Jim and Pam’s demise. And I just realized that they referenced both Kelly and Ryan in this episode. ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512/33 "2013-04-17T14:45:36Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > The Senator’s chief of staff/lover was played by the same guy that was the interpreter on the recent season of The Joe Schmo Show. > > Also, that was Paul Feig with the dog-cat-mouse act. Wow - are you me?!? I had the same immediate thought! ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512/34 "2013-04-17T16:14:35Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > And I just realized that they referenced both Kelly and Ryan in this episode. What was the Ryan reference? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512/35 "2013-04-17T16:32:38Z")
Jim’s meeting was with a baseball player named Ryan Howard and Pam mistakenly thought it was with the Ryan Howard who had worked with them. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512/36 "2013-04-17T16:35:09Z")
That was last episode. ---
**Author:** ![phreesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@phreesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phreesh)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512/37 "2013-04-17T17:17:56Z")
I thought it was a great show. Dwight was completely in-character. Stanley was hilarious. The ‘Dwight 2’ guy was awesome in his reactions. The press conference was sweet. The dog/cat/mouse act was great. Roseanne was funny. I loved Andy’s naivete (again, completely in-character). I’m also irked by the Pam/Jim dynamic. I hope it’s false drama for the happy conclusion where the family moves to Philly. Pam is coming off as ridiculous that she won’t support Jim’s dreams. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512/38 "2013-04-17T18:39:35Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > They are just making Pam come off so badly you start to root against her. And now she’s a liar too. She told Nellie that Jim took the job in Philadelphia without telling her. Except he did tell her. They had a long discussion about it where she agreed it would be OK to try. Jim did agree to work part-time on Athlead in Scranton without telling Pam, but I honestly can’t understand how anyone can justify her “no.” At that point, it wasn’t a job, it was a hobby. And making Pam be pissy about one of Jim’s hobbies would be borderline psycho. Also, loved the blow dart and I was more surprised that it hadn’t happened before than that it happened at all. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512/39 "2013-04-17T18:49:45Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > That was last episode. Shit, you’re right. I watched them back to back. ---
**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512/40 "2013-04-17T19:04:20Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > And now she’s a liar too. She told Nellie that Jim took the job in Philadelphia without telling her. Except he did tell her. They had a long discussion about it where she agreed it would be OK to try. Jim did agree to work part-time on Athlead in Scranton without telling Pam, but I honestly can’t understand how anyone can justify her “no.” At that point, it wasn’t a job, it was a hobby. And making Pam be pissy about one of Jim’s hobbies would be borderline psycho. That’s not how I remember it. They had a long discussion and Pam said ‘no.’ Jim went ahead anyway without telling her. And for a few episodes was actively hiding it from her. And Jim’s promises of it being only part-time and non-disruptive also didn’t pan out. And Toby’s point of this being all open-ended is dead-on. This isn’t a one time instances of didn’t get consensus first, it’s a constant and never-ending reminder of how this isn’t something she said yes to. And it doesn’t matter whether Athlead is successful or not. If it succeeds, it doesn’t make Jim right and Pam wrong. If it fails it doesn’t make Pam right and Jim wrong. The end doesn’t justify the means. It’s wrong because of deception. Pam has good reason to be distrustful. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-4-11-stairmageddon/655512.md?page=3)