# The Office: 5/4 (open spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 5, 2006, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507 "2006-05-05T05:38:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507/21 "2006-05-05T14:54:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Elza B]  
I’ve seen John Krasinski and Rainn Wilson on Ellen DeGeneres. They were both pretty easy-going - and they can dance 😃 . And while it wasn’t exactly HER, we were watching GSN one night, and this infomercial for Walgreens’ digital photo center came on - it was Angela! And she was SMILING! Gotta admit to a bit of shock at that.

E.  
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Angela on an infomercial? For Walgreens? Smiling? Wow, that must have been surreal :eek:

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507/22 "2006-05-05T15:11:58Z")

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Dwight backing off his ultimatum was also funny. You have to make a decision by tonight. Are you going to make a dicision this week? By next week? Maybe. Okay.

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507/23 "2006-05-05T15:25:29Z")

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[QUOTE=WOOKINPANUB]  
Have any of you seen any of the actors, aside from Jenna Fischer and Steve Carrell in other things or on talk shows? They all seem so perfect for their parts, as if they were real office drones plucked out of their environments. I’d be curious to see them speak as themselves. Especially Angela. That actress really nails it with her contemptuously raised eyebrow and pursed lips. I want to slap the snot out of her! And didn’t Dwight look deranged!? Great stuff.  
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Rainn Wilson has been in a lot of other stuff and playing quite different characters. He’s quite the chameleon. I think he’s a really good actor.

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**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507/24 "2006-05-05T15:36:12Z")

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[QUOTE=WOOKINPANUB]  
Angela on an infomercial? For Walgreens? Smiling? Wow, that must have been surreal :eek:  
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It was actually rather creepy.

:eek:

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507/25 "2006-05-05T15:54:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Trunk]  
Rainn Wilson has been in a lot of other stuff and playing quite different characters. He’s quite the chameleon. I think he’s a really good actor.  
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He was perfectly weird as Arthur in “Six Feet Under.”

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**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507/26 "2006-05-05T15:58:21Z")

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This episode made me feel really sorry for Toby. He obviously has to put up with more crap than almost anybody else at that office. He seems so resigned to it.

I also liked when Creed automatically turned to the side when getting his ID picture taken, as if it was a mug shot.

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**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507/27 "2006-05-05T17:04:58Z")

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Dwight going on about bringing a potato gun to work, and then wrapping up with, “Can you imagine if I was _deranged_?” Had to pause and laugh at that.

Michael to Toby: “Your solution for everything is to get a divorce!” Ah yes, the master mediator, there.

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**Author:** ![mazinger\_z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@mazinger\_z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mazinger_z)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507/28 "2006-05-05T17:08:35Z")

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Dwight was in that horrible movie “Sahara,” though he was pretty funny in it as comic relief.

I saw Jenna Elfman on, I think, Conan O’Brien, and I thought she was super-hot. As Pam, on the show, she’s pretty, but only because the other women aren’t as attractive.

The best line, I thought, was with Dwight talking about how he never smiles: _(paraphrasing)_ “I never smile when I don’t have to. Primates bear their teeth as a sign of submission. Whenever I see someone smile, I see a chimpanzee begging for his life.”

Ugh, I know I screwed that quote. :smack:

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**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507/29 "2006-05-05T17:14:27Z")

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I think you meant Jenna Fischer and not Jenna Elfman.

I believe Jenna Fischer falls under the classic definition of “cute.”

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**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507/30 "2006-05-05T17:18:22Z")

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[QUOTE=mazinger\_z]  
Dwight was in that horrible movie “Sahara,” though he was pretty funny in it as comic relief.

I saw Jenna Elfman on, I think, Conan O’Brien, and I thought she was super-hot. As Pam, on the show, she’s pretty, but only because the other women aren’t as attractive.  
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Oh, dear God.

_Fischer_.

Jenna _Fischer_.

I’m sure it was just a slip, but don’t confuse her with that vapid waste of air from **Dharma and Greg**. PLEASE. 😛

I brought the tape of the show to work for a co-worker this morning, and I was very tempted to rewatch it in the conference room over lunch. I didn’t, but only because I was very into my book.

E.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507/31 "2006-05-05T17:28:43Z")

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Photog: Smile!  
Dwight: No.

\<snap!\>

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507/32 "2006-05-05T18:10:20Z")

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I believe I saw that same episode of Conan (or was it Leno?) with Jenna Fischer. She was promoting the movie **Slither** , in which she appears; apparently, she’s always wanted to play a zombie, and she didn’t get to do it in her husband’s earlier movie, the remake of **Dawn of the Dead** , so she was mighty thrilled to wear the zombie makup in the new movie. I saw it, and her appearance was very brief, but sure enough, there she was, playing a dispatcher in a sheriff’s office.

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**Author:** ![some\_white\_dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b487fb/32.png) [@some\_white\_dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/some_white_dude)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507/33 "2006-05-05T19:28:17Z")

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I loved the way Toby sat and immediately got up in his ID photo.

I think Oscar’s rant about the poster would have fit well in the Pit. Beautifully worded. And Angela’s explanation why she loved it was so corny, does anyone remember what she said? I think it was something about God and how kids are the real artists.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507/34 "2006-05-05T21:06:55Z")

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[QUOTE=WOOKINPANUB]  
Have any of you seen any of the actors, aside from Jenna Fischer and Steve Carrell in other things or on talk shows?  
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The guy who plays Jim was on Conan once. Apparently he used to be an intern on Conan’s show.  
I loved it when Pam called Dwight “Bobble-head Joe” and the camera panned to him, pausing on the bobble-head.

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**Author:** ![Yeeter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/96bed5/32.png) [@Yeeter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeeter)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507/35 "2006-05-05T21:26:18Z")

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I loved this episode. I had to pause the show until I could stop laughing after Dwight got his ID. “My middle name is Kurt, not Fart.” HA!

[QUOTE=Chefguy]  
Dwight backing off his ultimatum was also funny. You have to make a decision by tonight. Are you going to make a dicision this week? By next week? Maybe. Okay.  
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This part was hilarious, but it was so clever because it showed Michael giving in to Toby’s method of listening and not doing anything about it.

And in my mind the final shot with Toby filing the complaints in storage is absolutely a nod to “Raiders of the Lost Ark.”

😃

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**Author:** ![Tio\_Gringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5e925/32.png) [@Tio\_Gringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tio_Gringo)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507/36 "2006-05-05T21:44:02Z")

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I haven’t seen this mentioned yet:

My thought of the final “Raiders of the Lost Ark” scene was that all of those warehoused boxes were complaints against Micheal.

Anyone else read it this way?

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**Author:** ![Gordon\_Urquhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/db5fbb/32.png) [@Gordon\_Urquhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gordon_Urquhart)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507/37 "2006-05-05T21:48:37Z")

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[QUOTE=EvilAsh]  
I haven’t seen this mentioned yet:

My thought of the final “Raiders of the Lost Ark” scene was that all of those warehoused boxes were complaints against Micheal.

Anyone else read it this way?  
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I did, originally (see above), but I’m now of \*\*Menocchio’s \*\* view that he simply hid the files in Dunder Mifflin’s warehouse full of boxes of blank paper so that Michael couldn’t find them.

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**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507/38 "2006-05-05T21:59:02Z")

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I could have sworn all those boxes said something like “File Storage”. I’ve deleted it from our TiVo so I can’t check, but I think they were all meant to be old files. I doubt they were ALL about Michael, but the complaints were definitely getting buried in a bunch of old paperwork that no one would ever see again.

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**Author:** ![Jayrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Jayrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayrot)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2006, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507/39 "2006-05-06T05:03:31Z")

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I went to Junior High with both John and BJ (Jim and Ryan, respectively). Played baseball on the team with John. Lost touch with them in college and beyond. Imagine my surprise to see both their faces on an NBC sitcom one day…

Both very cool guys, btw.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2006, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-5-4-open-spoilers/355507/40 "2006-05-06T06:01:07Z")

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I just remembered the best line:

“The bathroom is NOT whites only!”

“Then why does it have a picture of a white man on it?”

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