# The Office 9/29 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 29, 2006, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593 "2006-09-29T08:28:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593/21 "2006-09-29T17:54:42Z")
[QUOTE=MaxTheVool] One thing that bugs me a little bit is that I feel they’re a bit inconsistent about the existence of the cameras. On the one hand, sometimes they clearly know there’s a guy in the room with a camera, and basically talk directly to it. But no one ever actually out loud acknowledges it, no stranger ever says “hey, why are the cameras following you around?”, etc. It’s a bit inconsistent. But a minor complaint at best. [/QUOTE] I don’t see this an as inconsistency. I’ve never seen a reality show where anyone acknowledged the cameras on-screen. Take \*\*The Apprentice \*\* for example; they’re out in the public constantly, yet no one is ever shown commenting on it. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593/22 "2006-09-29T19:44:46Z")
[QUOTE=MaxTheVool] Just remembered something I was puzzled by… Angela and Philadelphia. First she implies that every girl in Philly is a whore. Then she defends Philly when someone attacks it. And at one point, she thinks there’s a fly in the room. I feel like there’s some connecting thread there, but I don’t know what it is. [/QUOTE] I thought the fly bit was funny because most likely there was a fly in the room and the actress reacted in character to it. But yes the inconsistency with the stance on Philadelphia was odd. Unless it was an attempt to show her hypocrisy again. She lambasts women as sluts and goes to church but has a sexual relationship with Dwight. Its okay for her to talk bad abut Philly but not someone else. ---
**Author:** ![Mayo\_Speaks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mayo\_Speaks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mayo_Speaks)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593/23 "2006-09-29T19:53:46Z")
[QUOTE=Push You Down] \ Creed’s line of “Andrea is the office bitch. You’ll have to get used to it.” outstretching hand “I’m Creed.” killed me. [/QUOTE] Yeah, Creed is easily my favorite television character _ever_. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593/24 "2006-09-29T20:23:24Z")
[QUOTE=Push You Down] I thought the fly bit was funny because most likely there was a fly in the room and the actress reacted in character to it. But yes the inconsistency with the stance on Philadelphia was odd. Unless it was an attempt to show her hypocrisy again. She lambasts women as sluts and goes to church but has a sexual relationship with Dwight. Its okay for her to talk bad abut Philly but not someone else. [/QUOTE] Yeah, that hypocritical bitch. Great stuff! ---
**Author:** ![Big\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e4f/32.png) [@Big\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Big_G)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593/25 "2006-09-30T02:46:00Z")
My recording stopped after Michael and Jim’s conversation, when the two other guys came in to the “party”. Was there a little gag at the end like the gay detector last week? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593/26 "2006-09-30T02:47:40Z")
[QUOTE=cbawlmer] Kelly is awesome. Or rather, she is awesomely portrayed. She cracks me up every time she opens her mouth. [/QUOTE] I’m kind of ashamed to admit it, but I have a little crush on her. I’m sure in real life I’d be keeping my distance, but on the show… ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593/27 "2006-09-30T05:04:39Z")
[QUOTE=Big G] My recording stopped after Michael and Jim’s conversation, when the two other guys came in to the “party”. Was there a little gag at the end like the gay detector last week? Thanks. [/QUOTE] Michael and Dwight were in Michael’s room; Michael went to kick the party up a notch by turning on a black light. Of course stains were exposed on various items around the room. I didn’t look closely, because I was laughing too hard, but I _really_ hope there was an incriminating stain on Dwight somewhere. That would’ve been a great capper to the Angela storyline. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593/28 "2006-09-30T05:47:53Z")
[QUOTE=MaxTheVool] Another good episode. Fewer laugh-out-loud moments than some episodes, but I really liked the interactions between Jim and Michael. They’re both obviously played as broad characters for laughs some of the time, but it’s nice to also really see the writers give them some depth and personality. Toby trying to ask Pam out was painful but hilarious. Jim saying what happened when he saw Dwight, then when Dwight started talking, was very funny also. [/QUOTE] The thing that cringed me: why would Jim confide in Michael **again**? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593/29 "2006-09-30T06:08:16Z")
[QUOTE=Oslo Ostragoth] The thing that cringed me: why would Jim confide in Michael **again**? [/QUOTE] In this case, I think it was just to make him feel better. Michael thought that Jim had transferred because he didn’t like Michael. Jim has always had a soft spot for Michael and an inclination to be kind when things are going bad for him. Confessing that he had left because of Pam was a way to reassure him that Jim still liked him (and I think Jim appreciates Michael as a boss even more now that he’s in the sterile, humorless environment of Stamford). I think that Jim also just decided he didn’t care that much about keeping his thing for Pam a secret. He’s sort of resigned himself (at this point) to accepting that it’s not going to happen. He’s not at Scranton anymore anyway, and he thought it just didn’t matter if anyone knew. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593/30 "2006-09-30T19:11:18Z")
[QUOTE=Oslo Ostragoth] The thing that cringed me: why would Jim confide in Michael **again**? [/QUOTE] Also, maybe this is how things between Jim and Pam get restarted— you know Michael won’t be able to keep it to himself. He’ll say something to Pam, and maybe she’ll finally get off her ass and do something about it. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593/31 "2006-09-30T19:42:45Z")
[QUOTE=Happy Lendervedder] Michael and Dwight were in Michael’s room; Michael went to kick the party up a notch by turning on a black light. Of course stains were exposed on various items around the room. I didn’t look closely, because I was laughing too hard, but I _really_ hope there was an incriminating stain on Dwight somewhere. That would’ve been a great capper to the Angela storyline. [/QUOTE] You’ve got to include the best part! The dialog between Michael and Dwight. Michael: Oh, what’s all that? Dwight: Blood, Urine, Semen… Michael: I hope it’s urine. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593/32 "2006-09-30T21:34:21Z")
[QUOTE=D\_Odds] Dwight got himself a hooker 😉 [/QUOTE] The best part of that scene was Jim walking down the hall saying, “Oh my God. I’ve gotta call . . . I’ve gotta call somebody. I don’t even know who to call.” His first thought was to call Pam, but he can’t do that right now. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2006, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593/33 "2006-10-01T15:54:32Z")
“If I wasn’t engaged, I would so-o-o hit that.” The guy has all the sexual appeal of a eunuch. Another satisfying ep in a great series. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2006, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593/34 "2006-10-01T21:57:46Z")
If you go to the NBC site, there is a deleted scene where Jan asks the Scranton super up to her room to “look at the schedule”. He turns it down. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2006, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593/35 "2006-10-02T00:48:02Z")
I have to say that I am impressed by the realism of the show. I have spent a great deal of time in Eastern, PA, New York City and Stamford, CT and the characters and locations all ring true. Stamford IS sterile and corporate - all office parks overlooking Rt-95 and The Sound. Jan and the other New York “suits” with their distaste of the tiny rural Scranton branch and their Big Corporate ivory tower. And Philly does smell like cheese steaks 😃 Also I like that they make Michael an excellent salesman. Too many shows put some ridiculous asshole of a boss in charge and you can never figure out how the hell he got there. [QUOTE=McNew] I assumed Angela must have had her face covered somehow because from the hallway we could see her bare legs, and Jim was practically in the room before he spun around and left, so he must have been able to see more than her upper body. Maybe she was wearing a monkey mask. [/QUOTE] Typically hotel rooms have the bathroom near the door creating a small hallway. Most likely Jim would not have gone past the small hallway. He would have just seen Angelas lower half and been so startled he just did a quick about-face not even considering it would be Angela (who no one has any idea about). ---
**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2006, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593/36 "2006-10-02T12:44:07Z")
I wished I’d taped it so I could go back and check, but I don’t recall seeing anyone when Jim opened Dwight’s door…just the voice, which I thought was coming from the bathroom. Didn’t see any legs or anything. If Angela had been laying right there, she wouldn’t have had to ask “Is that you, D?” and she would have reacted to seeing Jim. I think she was in the bathroom and you saw clothes on the bed. Could someone who taped it go back and check? ---
**Author:** ![RumMunkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@RumMunkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RumMunkey)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2006, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593/37 "2006-10-02T13:41:26Z")
> [@](#): > > maybe this is how things between Jim and Pam get restarted— you know Michael won’t be able to keep it to himself. He’ll say something to Pam, and maybe she’ll finally get off her ass and do something about it. I kind of assumed Jim knew (perhaps subconciously) that Michael would eventually spill it to Pam. He’s using Michael to communicate for him. **kittenblue** , I recorded it and you do see Angela’s leg. In fact, her feet & leg position indicate that she’s lying on the bed spread eagle and Jim gets a full view. She says “_D?_” when Jim walks in. Maybe she was wearing some sort of get up or a mask as ohers have suggested (maybe just the sunglasses), but I assumed there was enough of a hallway there that she heard Jim coming (believing it was dwight), but when she heard him talk (“_old habits die hard…_”) she thought he wasn’t alone so she called out “D?” to get his attention before he let anyone else in the room. I figured Jim was so flustered to see a naked lady there that he just panicked and ran. He didn’t notice it was Angela. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2006, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593/38 "2006-10-02T14:02:22Z")
[QUOTE=kittenblue] I wished I’d taped it so I could go back and check, but I don’t recall seeing anyone when Jim opened Dwight’s door…just the voice, which I thought was coming from the bathroom. Didn’t see any legs or anything. If Angela had been laying right there, she wouldn’t have had to ask “Is that you, D?” and she would have reacted to seeing Jim. I think she was in the bathroom and you saw clothes on the bed. Could someone who taped it go back and check? [/QUOTE] Jim was talking to and facing the camera while he opened the door. He probably assumed the room would be empty. He pushed the door open still looking at the camera then when he heard “D?” he looked startled that someone was in the room (you could see a pair of nude legs on the bed) and he took about a 1/2 second glimpse of ‘nude girl’ on the bed and slamed the door and ran. It probably didn’t register that it was Angela. He’s probably never seen her with her hair down. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2006, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593/39 "2006-10-02T14:59:16Z")
I’m not sure why anyone is baffled by Jim not recognizing her. She was laying on a bed naked, Jim looked at her for a half a second, I promise you he wouldn’t have been looking at her face. Men are simple and this situation is not the least bit unrealistic or confusing. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2006, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593/40 "2006-10-02T19:01:27Z")
[QUOTE=RumMunkey] In fact, her feet & leg position indicate that she’s lying on the bed spread eagle and Jim gets a full view. [/QUOTE] :eek: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-9-29/374593.md?page=3)