# The Office April 10 (We missed you guys) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 11, 2008, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827 "2008-04-11T01:03:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827/21 "2008-04-11T04:52:44Z")
[QUOTE=Oslo Ostragoth] A hell of his own making? The more we see of his private side, the more incredibly pathetic he is.\* They are going to have to ease off the throttle at some point. \*Remember the ep with the home movies of him as a kid? Something about all he wanted was to be liked, or have a friend, or somesuch? [/QUOTE] “I wanna be married and have 100 kids so I can have 100 friends, and no one can say no to being my friend. …” ☹ ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827/22 "2008-04-11T05:06:29Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Hunter’s song was brilliantly horrible. It wasn’t so bad it was unrealistic, but just superficially competent enough to totally believable as an attempt at what Family Guy refers to as the “douchebag with a guitar” genre. [/QUOTE] I took it as Hunter wrote that song for Jan about when she took his virginity. What a brilliant episode. What a great way to come back. My DVR didn’t get the ending snippet. What happened? ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827/23 "2008-04-11T05:11:32Z")
[QUOTE=Dewey Finn] I think she was standing at a bus stop, implying that she was forced to take the bus home. When I first saw her, I thought perhaps she was supposed to be his mother (given that she appeared to be older). [/QUOTE] But she was standing with an obvious homeless man, behind what appeared to me to be a trash can with a fire in it, such as those used by homeless people in movies and on tv. ---
**Author:** ![sunnyphilly43](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@sunnyphilly43](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sunnyphilly43)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827/24 "2008-04-11T05:23:16Z")
I watched two episodes of the UK Office before tonight’s episode. While me and my lovely girifriend were watching the British episodes, I commented that the UK shows are much more uncomfortable to watch than the US shows, which seem to be more joke-based. Boy was I wrong tonight. I was literally wringing my hands at some parts of the show. I was reminded of that SNL skit from a few years back of the couple that ‘should be divorced’. I can’t see Michael returning to Jan and the show still being at all believable. I did, however, expect Pam to be madder at Jim after he tried to bail on her, after they couldn’t bail as a couple. They did seem a little distant, until the final scene in the car. I’ve felt that some Jim and Pam conflict is coming soon for a while now. Anyone? ---
**Author:** ![rock\_party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@rock\_party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rock_party)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827/25 "2008-04-11T05:29:37Z")
> [@](#): > > But she was standing with an obvious homeless man, behind what appeared to me to be a trash can with a fire in it, such as those used by homeless people in movies and on tv. And she didn’t seem to have a distressed “why aren’t you stopping and picking me up” look on her face. She seemed contented to just be there. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827/26 "2008-04-11T05:50:01Z")
[QUOTE=Alice The Goon] But she was standing with an obvious homeless man, behind what appeared to me to be a trash can with a fire in it, such as those used by homeless people in movies and on tv. [/QUOTE] No, they were standing in a bus shelter. The homeless guy was just there to make it seem more callous for Dwight to leave her standing there. ---
**Author:** ![Surbey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@Surbey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surbey)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827/27 "2008-04-11T05:50:42Z")
[QUOTE=Alice The Goon] But she was standing with an obvious homeless man, behind what appeared to me to be a trash can with a fire in it, such as those used by homeless people in movies and on tv. [/QUOTE] Sometimes homeless people hang out at bus stops. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827/28 "2008-04-11T05:51:40Z")
[QUOTE=sunnyphilly43] I watched two episodes of the UK Office before tonight’s episode.\ [/quote] So did we! > [@](#): > > I did, however, expect Pam to be madder at Jim after he tried to bail on her, after they couldn’t bail as a couple. They did seem a little distant, until the final scene in the car. > I’ve felt that some Jim and Pam conflict is coming soon for a while now. Anyone? I said to my husband when that was going on, there is no way, NO WAY Jim gets to leave and Pam has to stay. Jim seems to be kind of a dick, which I didn’t get from him the first couple of seasons - he seemed to be a much nicer guy than he is turning out to be as a boyfriend. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827/29 "2008-04-11T05:54:43Z")
I’m not surprised, though. He always seemed like a bit of a dick to Karen. And in the first two seasons, it was clear that he and Pam bonded over laughing at everybody else. There’s no reason to think that she would be immune to his dickish tendencies–she’s just closer to it now. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827/30 "2008-04-11T06:18:09Z")
[QUOTE=featherlou] I said to my husband when that was going on, there is no way, NO WAY Jim gets to leave and Pam has to stay. Jim seems to be kind of a dick, which I didn’t get from him the first couple of seasons - he seemed to be a much nicer guy than he is turning out to be as a boyfriend. [/QUOTE] Jim’s a bit of a smart ass but it’s generally all good natured except for when Dwight is involved. Him and Pam have always goofed on each other at work and him ditching her with the coworkers would totally be in that spirit. I don’t think Jim would have tried to ditch her in any other circumstance, but since it was basically an extension of any unpleasant work activity they do it’s fine. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827/31 "2008-04-11T13:06:42Z")
[QUOTE=Omniscient] Jim’s a bit of a smart ass but it’s generally all good natured except for when Dwight is involved. Him and Pam have always goofed on each other at work and him ditching her with the coworkers would totally be in that spirit. I don’t think Jim would have tried to ditch her in any other circumstance, but since it was basically an extension of any unpleasant work activity they do it’s fine. [/QUOTE] Jim was always kind of a dick if you stopped and thought about it - even to Jim, when he started listing his Dwight pranks and realized that he had gone too far. Thing is, Jim tried to get them both out, and they disassembled his excuse so that it became a one-man excuse. He was going to make a run for it, and then Pam roped him back in. The reason Pam and Jim work as a couple (and comedic team) is that she’s a match for him, something that nobody else at D-M is. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827/32 "2008-04-11T13:14:35Z")
[QUOTE=Merijeek] Jim was always kind of a dick if you stopped and thought about it - even to Jim, when he started listing his Dwight pranks and realized that he had gone too far. [/QUOTE] I agree with you that Jim’s kinda a dick, but I don’t think he realized he went to far with the Dwight pranks, I think he realized that he was wasting his life pulling pranks. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827/33 "2008-04-11T14:10:31Z")
[QUOTE=Dewey Finn] I think she was standing at a bus stop, implying that she was forced to take the bus home. When I first saw her, I thought perhaps she was supposed to be his mother (given that she appeared to be older). [/QUOTE] Didn’t she say that she used to be Dwight’s babysitter? Then Jim said he had a LOT of questions for her and wanted her e-mail address to which she replied “What’s e-mail?” ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827/34 "2008-04-11T14:26:58Z")
I think I’m going to re-watch the episode with the sound off and focus completely on people’s (particularly Pam’s) facial expressions. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827/35 "2008-04-11T14:32:19Z")
Pam’s reaction to Dwight’s arrival- “Yessss!” ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827/36 "2008-04-11T14:38:11Z")
Yeah, I saw Jim as trying to spring both of them. Pam’s initial look was one of love and gratitude, but Michael wouldn’t let her off the hook and then Jim was kind of stuck – either leave alone or let his apartment stay flooded. ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827/37 "2008-04-11T14:42:30Z")
[QUOTE=Hampshire] Pam’s reaction to Dwight’s arrival- “Yessss!” [/QUOTE] That was funny. She knew it was going to get good. I also liked when Michael floated the idea of investing $10,000 in Jan’s candle business. Andy: “I’m in.” Good ep. Not as good as “30 Rock”. ---
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[QUOTE=Hampshire] Didn’t she say that she used to be Dwight’s babysitter? Then Jim said he had a LOT of questions for her and wanted her e-mail address to which she replied “What’s e-mail?” [/QUOTE] If I recall, it was: Dwight: “She was my babysitter.” Pam (probably telling herself not to ask, but unable to stop): “And you’re dating now?” Dwight: “It’s purely carnal. That’s all you need to know.” I had to rewind and use Closed Caption to be sure he actually said that. I don’t really like the direction they’ve taken with Jan. When we met her, she seemed smart, professional, maybe too tightly-wound, and baffled by her inexplicable attraction to Michael. Now she’s actually more dysfunctional than he is. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827/39 "2008-04-11T15:00:31Z")
Jim’s always been a bit of a dick, but definitely a dick in relationships. He pretty much dicked over Karen, and the girl he broke up with on the booze cruise. Sure, he was a dick to them largely because of his feelings for Pam, but maybe being a dick in a relationship has become a habit for him. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827/40 "2008-04-11T15:31:07Z")
I thought it was totally in character with Jim and in keeping with his and Pam’s relationship in general that he wouldn’t balk at trying to cut her loose and make a break for it on his own when his initial plan didn’t work. Jim does have a little bit of a dickish streak, but I think Pam would have totally tried the same thing if she had the chance. I also think that once he was free, Jim would have called with some kind of nutty excuse to get Pam out of there too. He would have posed as her grandmother over the phone or something. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-10-we-missed-you-guys/444827.md?page=3)