# The Office - April 24 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 25, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782 "2008-04-25T01:32:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782/61 "2008-04-26T14:24:58Z")
[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] No. This was not consistent with ecstasy use, but his behavior was not consistent with cocaine use. [/QUOTE] Never mind, answered above. But you’re painting with a broad brush and are also just plain wrong. People on coke can indeed by annoyingly outgoing and dance manically. For proof, see, oh, American Culture from 1978-1990. ---
**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782/62 "2008-04-26T14:50:53Z")
Besides, he was probably drunk on top of being coked-up. ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782/63 "2008-04-26T15:43:31Z")
[QUOTE=Menocchio] When the Office was going to be shut down, wasn’t Toby actually relieved and said he planned to go to Costa Rica. [/QUOTE] I thought I remembered Toby mentioning Costa Rica before. I think that time he was trying to impress Pam by saying it. Like maybe she’d express interest and he could invite her to run away with him. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782/64 "2008-04-26T18:02:43Z")
I loved that moment with the camera zooming in on Toby with his hand on Pam’s knee, and then he starts rubbing her knee. Such a fine line between a friendly pat on the knee and a career-ending sexual harassment suit! And everyone in the room looking at it, and going dead quiet. That was just fantastic. And him jumping up and running away - perfect. I don’t know why they have to make Jim out to be an incompetent dickhead now. Offices can have someone working there who is perfectly normal and competent, and no one knows why they stay at that place. Jim used to be that guy; they’re turning him into the same joke as everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782/65 "2008-04-26T18:23:31Z")
[QUOTE=shy guy] Besides, he was probably drunk on top of being coked-up. [/QUOTE] Ladies, gentlemen, please! Can we not simply wait for the toxicology report? ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782/66 "2008-04-26T19:59:58Z")
[QUOTE=Eyebrows 0f Doom] 😕😕 Unless you mean, “Outside of Inwood,” there is _no way_ that place rents for under $1000 in Manhattan. At least $1500, probably more. Maybe the Hobbit is his roommate. Dealers usually have lots of cash. ---
**Author:** ![Merkwurdigliebe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Merkwurdigliebe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merkwurdigliebe)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782/67 "2008-04-26T20:57:24Z")
[QUOTE=shy guy] Besides, he was probably drunk on top of being coked-up. [/QUOTE] That made perfect sense to me. He wasn’t ecstasy friendly with Michael and Dwight. He was drunk friendly with them. The energy was from the coke, as far as I could see. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782/68 "2008-04-26T22:26:23Z")
Oh, how could I have forgotten - when Michael was hugging Ryan, saying how horny he was. Can we forget about what drug/s Ryan was on and concentrate on the important minutia, like this? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782/69 "2008-04-27T03:20:13Z")
I like watching the show after reading what you all have to say…then I know what to look out for! I think everyone is being too hard on Jim. He had a great idea, and why would he even know that the lot gets locked at night? And with all their cars there, why did Hank lock them in? A decent security guard would have noticed which company was working late and called and warned them. And yes…Hank’s number was on Toby’s cell phone, so when he leapt over the fence, they had no way of calling Hank, though maybe they should have called Toby! Or one of them should have stayed and waited. And as for asking Oscar to talk to the cleaning crew…well, Jim was right, wasn’t he? How is that racist? ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782/70 "2008-04-27T03:27:01Z")
[QUOTE=Sigmagirl] Why didn’t Phyllis call Bob Vance, Vance Refrigeration, to get somebody to open the gate? He’s one of the Five Families! [/QUOTE] Not only that, but he’s her husband. ---
**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782/71 "2008-04-27T12:55:50Z")
It does seem odd that she didn’t at least call him to tell him what was happening…he may not have a key to the padlock, but he could surely get Hank to move a little faster… ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782/72 "2008-04-27T15:34:11Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Well, it could be both coke and ecstasy, but coke was clearly implied to be at least part of it. [/QUOTE] Would a combination of Coke and Ecstasy be called Pepsi? ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782/73 "2008-04-27T19:25:04Z")
[QUOTE=kittenblue] I think everyone is being too hard on Jim. He had a great idea, and why would he even know that the lot gets locked at night? [/QUOTE] I am pretty sure that any office building would let the employees know the building policy on locking up. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782/74 "2008-04-27T20:32:36Z")
Well, to be strictly realistic – - No security guard would chain a property shut when it’s obvious that there are still people in the building. The guards would do at least one round before locking up - If the situation is such that the gate actually has to be chained shut, then there would be a night watchman on the premises who could open it if necessary. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Shroud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/439d5e/32.png) [@The\_Shroud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Shroud)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782/75 "2008-04-27T22:11:08Z")
Watching the [deleted scenes](http://www.hulu.com/watch/18056/the-office-night-out---pep-talk#x-4,vclip,1) on Hulu, I found it interesting that they actually shot on location in New York. Aside from a couple traffic shots (which didn’t have any actors in them), everything that was left in the episode could have easily been shot in L.A. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782/76 "2008-04-27T22:17:49Z")
[QUOTE=acsenray] - If the situation is such that the gate actually has to be chained shut, then there would be a night watchman on the premises who could open it if necessary. [/QUOTE] Yeah – what if there was an emergency, like a fire? This part of the plot has some pretty big holes. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Shroud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/439d5e/32.png) [@The\_Shroud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Shroud)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782/77 "2008-04-27T22:21:31Z")
[QUOTE=AuntiePam] Yeah – what if there was an emergency, like a fire? This part of the plot has some pretty big holes. [/QUOTE] I figured there was probably some place they could get out on foot, but their cars were locked up. Of course, that would mean Toby didn’t need to hop the fence, but maybe it was his quickest means of escape. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2008, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782/78 "2008-04-28T00:07:11Z")
But how would emergency vehicles get in? A fire truck or ambulance would probably have tools to break the lock, but it’d take some time. ---
**Author:** ![TomScanlan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aca169/32.png) [@TomScanlan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TomScanlan)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2008, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782/79 "2008-04-28T00:33:31Z")
I’ve paid as much as $1700 in a slightly “off” section of NYC for an apartment about that size, but without the view. The lowest was $1400, again, for about the same space. Don’t for get Ryan was also moshing on the dance floor… a good indicator of drug use. Jim just kept tripping over his pragmatic nature, and his tongue when it came to the race card. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2008, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782/80 "2008-04-28T01:21:17Z")
[QUOTE=alphaboi867] Was Ryan’s small studio apartment supposed to indicate he’s not as really succesful as he acts or is it just because they were in Manhattan? [/QUOTE] That studio appartment easily costs over $2000 a month. People in Manhattan tend to not have appartments like Friends or even Seinfeld. I’m not an expert on drugs, but I thought Ryan was on ecstacy, not coke. Ryan is successful by Scranton standards, he merely does ok by NYC standards. He’s a junior executive at a minor paper company, not a trader for Goldman Sachs making half a million a year. There were certain cues - having to wait in line at the club because his friend wasn’t at the door, pretending he’s in finance, grabbing a bunch of random girls out of line to get in faster, going home to his studio apt with no girl, his newfound drug problem (although it’s hinted in earlier episodes that he’s at least experimented with light drugs). > [@friedo](#): > > It depends where in Manhattan. Outside of midtown or the financial district, such a tiny pad would go for less than a grand usually. 😕 Clearly your information is incorrect. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-april-24/446782.md?page=5)