# The Office "Broke" (Open Spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175 "2009-04-24T02:11:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175/21 "2009-04-24T03:15:46Z")
When did Ryan talk about being clean? ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175/22 "2009-04-24T03:16:12Z")
He did have thai food when he was there. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175/23 "2009-04-24T03:16:42Z")
I think Charles has the same job that Jan and Ryan had, but I wonder if DM will put him in a different region so they can keep him away from Scranton. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175/24 "2009-04-24T03:17:52Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > When did Ryan talk about being clean? At the very beginning he said ever since he’s been clean the fresh morning air has made him nauseous. ---
**Author:** ![mshar253](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@mshar253](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mshar253)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175/25 "2009-04-24T03:21:22Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > He said he was ‘clean’, was he into drugs or just booze? Coke. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175/26 "2009-04-24T03:21:37Z")
Thanks, TV picture went out for a few second in the very beginning. I’m glad they addressed it, I’ve wondered about it since he came back as a temp. ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175/27 "2009-04-24T03:21:58Z")
Also, ryan refused the champagne at the end. I loved how Jim was able to help out michael scott paper company. Yay! He was back to winning in this episode. And, it was surprising to see how much of a butt kisser Charles was. MSPC had to close up at some point. A couple of more episodes might have been ok. But, I really liked how they summed things up. Especially, Michael knowing exactly where to hit Wallace. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175/28 "2009-04-24T03:22:15Z")
This episode put a smile on my face. Michael was brilliant and made me remember why I like him. He played David Wallace like a fiddle, and he was so worried he was going to blurt out, “We’re broke!” Then, he when he did finally say, “Our company is worth nothing,” he did a fantastic recovery and made it into a positive. Pam’s gamble on him paid off. I also loved Jim in this episode. He is a good guy who loves Pam and has genuine affection for Michael. He was their inside man and his assist was invaluable. Nice teamwork. Best part was when Charles was going to give his goodbye speech and Michael cut him off, saying, “Charles, you’re done.” Back atcha! Mose in socks-- case solved! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175/29 "2009-04-24T03:24:38Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > So they pulled off the reset. Of course they did. The inevitability was almost as if Michael had planned it. Which, of course, he hadn’t, but that Brilliance/Dumb Luck is why he remains in my pantheon, despite his patent boners. Could you argue with his terms as benefiting Pam, Ryan, and him the most? David saw it immediately, but also saw them as the cheapest in the short term, though most expensive in the long. He’s corporate and doesn’t give two shits about the long term, despite his protests. He has his most profitable branch back together (you will note he didn’t fire Michael in the first place) and he has Charles, though a poor judge of character, undoubtedly an asset somewhere. David will get his bonus, Charles will land on his feet, Scranton will continue to do what it does best, despite it all, and Kelly and Angela will have to cool their, er, jets some other way. As a person who has suffered through untold rounds of “What the Boss is Reading This Month,” this show is brilliant, though Michael embarrasses me so often i can barely watch it. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175/30 "2009-04-24T03:25:03Z")
Michael got Wallace to hire back Ryan (a strain on plausibility, but I guess they have to get him back in there somehow), but did they say what his position would be? Would it be sales? Didn’t he go right from being a temp to being a VP? Has he ever done sales? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175/31 "2009-04-24T03:27:06Z")
Dude’s a sleaze. He’ll clean up in sales. ETA: Yeah, it’ll probably become a problem, but Michael loves him like a son, so there’s episode possibilities. ETAA: And he’s also a producer, so we’re stuck with him. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175/32 "2009-04-24T03:29:24Z")
I wonder if it might be revealed sometime that Ryan was in Ft. Lauderdale for rehab. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175/33 "2009-04-24T03:30:12Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Michael got Wallace to hire back Ryan (a strain on plausibility, but I guess they have to get him back in there somehow), but did they say what his position would be? Would it be sales? Didn’t he go right from being a temp to being a VP? Has he ever done sales? He became a salesman when Jim went to Stamford. ---
**Author:** ![Soapbox\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Soapbox\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soapbox_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175/34 "2009-04-24T03:30:55Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Michael got Wallace to hire back Ryan (a strain on plausibility, but I guess they have to get him back in there somehow), but did they say what his position would be? Would it be sales? Didn’t he go right from being a temp to being a VP? Has he ever done sales? He took Jim’s job when Jim moved to Stanford in Season 3, but he never made a sale. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175/35 "2009-04-24T03:33:46Z")
Oh yeah, that’s right. I remember that now. But he never made a sale, did he? That’s ok, like **dropzone** says, he’s an inherent hustler. He’ll survive in sales. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175/36 "2009-04-24T03:47:00Z")
But not thrive. He’ll drive a Lexus and have a trophy wife, but he’ll die hustling and in a world of debt propping up the illusion of success. My wife’s uncle, OTOH, _loved_ his customers, like Michael does, and died with a Bohunk\*'s dream of security for his wife and kids. Dude scarcely had to work the last few decades, too, because his customers loved him, too. - - It was his background and, as far as the _edible_ food I ate as a kid, mine. ---
**Author:** ![Diz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/87869e/32.png) [@Diz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diz)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175/37 "2009-04-24T03:53:11Z")
They might just get rid of the new girl and make Ryan the receptionist… ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175/38 "2009-04-24T04:13:28Z")
They didn’t get the $60K along with the jobs, did they? I got called away briefly. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175/39 "2009-04-24T04:26:25Z")
It wasn’t really clear, but I think Michael’s demand was for the jobs _instead_ of the $60K, which, as David immediately understood, was a much better deal. If Michale got the 60 grand too, then kudos to him, but that wasn’t the way I interpreted it. I think if they’d only gotten the cash, they all would have blown it in a matter of weeks anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Mesquite-oh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a183cd/32.png) [@Mesquite-oh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mesquite-oh)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175/40 "2009-04-24T05:32:34Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > Oh, and lest it go unappreciated, it looks like in the end they just gave that Korean woman rides to church. Easier that way, I guess. I would have gone with the school bus with the owl living in it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-broke-open-spoilers/494175.md?page=3)