# The Office--Feb 9, 2006

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 10, 2006, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808 "2006-02-10T04:06:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hugh\_Jass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/4da419/32.png) [@Hugh\_Jass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hugh_Jass)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808/41 "2006-02-10T18:07:45Z")

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I was gonna post to see if they resolved the Dwight’s gift situation. Obviously, I missed that part. Sci Fi was showing a good episode of Star Trek: TNG at the same time. Can someone give a play by play of the scene?

I realized, with the Dwight romance, and the Michael romance, in addition to the Kelly-Temp guy thing, they have plenty of things they can focus on after they resolve Pam-Jim. Jim’s advice to Kelly was interesting, basically telling her she needs to move on. Get over it. He said something last week that made me think his character is saying the same thing to himself. I suspect it will resolve itself in the last episode of the season.

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**Author:** ![Hugh\_Jass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/4da419/32.png) [@Hugh\_Jass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hugh_Jass)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808/42 "2006-02-10T18:15:22Z")

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I was gonna post to see if they resolved the Dwight’s gift situation. Obviously, I missed that part. Sci Fi was showing a good episode of Star Trek: TNG at the same time. Can someone give a play by play of the scene?

I realized, with the Dwight romance, and the Michael romance, in addition to the Kelly-Temp guy thing, they have plenty of things they can focus on after they resolve Pam-Jim. Jim’s advice to Kelly was interesting, basically telling her she needs to move on. Get over it. He said something last week that made me think his character is saying the same thing to himself. I suspect it will resolve itself in the last episode of the season.

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808/43 "2006-02-10T18:56:02Z")

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Re: Dwight and Angela:

Late in the episode Angela finds a small pink package at her desk. She unwraps it to find a key, presumably to Dwight’s house. At first you think she’s going to be really pissed off at such a clearly last-minute gift, but then she breaks into this big (for Angela) smile and looks beatifically over at Dwight.

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808/44 "2006-02-10T18:58:58Z")

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> [@Hugh Jass](#):
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> Jim’s advice to Kelly was interesting, basically telling her she needs to move on. Get over it. He said something last week that made me think his character is saying the same thing to himself. I suspect it will resolve itself in the last episode of the season.

I like this except Ryan (temp guy) isn’t into Kelly and Pam really is into Jim if only as friends. They got renewed for next season. I expect a cliff hanger in the last episode.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808/45 "2006-02-10T18:59:11Z")

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And then cut to Dwight’s speech which I quoted before

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808/46 "2006-02-10T19:01:33Z")

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If they want to extend the Jim/Pam thing… just give Jim a girlfriend… not Kelly of course…

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**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808/47 "2006-02-10T19:08:46Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> Sbarro is a large chain in at least the north east, and often times found in amll food courts. And we all know that mall food courts are the bset place to get real, authentic, NY pizza. 😛  
> It’s the equivilant of going to New Mexico or Texas, and saying that yor favourite tex-mex place is a Taco Bell.

That is EXACTLY the analogy I gave my husband last night. We have Sbarro down here in Houston, but he avoids malls so he’d never seen one.

I don’t want to like Dwight and Angela, and I don’t like them much individually, but I’m starting to really enjoy them as a couple. Weird, crazy people deserve love too. 🙂

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808/48 "2006-02-10T19:51:22Z")

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> [@Trunk](#):
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> Well, it wasn’t really a cunning ploy.
> 
> He was telling her, “I trust you and want to take this to the next level”.
> 
> He needed to get her a gift, and that was a thoughtful one. He pulled the emergency gift off perfectly.

I thought it would have been hilarious if they revealed that Dwight in his panicked state actually gave Angela the ONLY key to his place and at the end say him yell at a locksmith to work faster ;).

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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808/49 "2006-02-10T20:19:05Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> I like this except Ryan (temp guy) isn’t into Kelly and Pam really is into Jim if only as friends. They got renewed for next season. I expect a cliff hanger in the last episode.

My guess is next season will be the last. Steve Carrell wants to go off and do movies, and they can’t sustain the interest of the Jim/Pam thing forever, so it’ll be a good reason to end it. They better come up with a closure for Jim/Pam that was as good as the UK version though.

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**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808/50 "2006-02-10T20:26:32Z")

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> [@McNew](#):
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> My guess is next season will be the last.

The show will last until NBC is good and ready to end it, and not a moment earlier or later. If it keeps drawing viewers (both for regular broadcasts and for iTunes downloads), it will last a very long time. Its producers and entire cast could leave, and it might just keep chugging along with new cast and crew, like _ER_. What else does NBC have to put on Thursdays?

That’s the biggest difference between British and American TV. The BBC isn’t just relying on advertising revenue to keep all its shows on the air. 95% of all programming decisions made by American networks are motivated by financial interests, not creative ones.

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**Author:** ![Malodorous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47774/32.png) [@Malodorous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malodorous)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808/51 "2006-02-10T20:41:26Z")

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> [@McNew](#):
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> My guess is next season will be the last. Steve Carrell wants to go off and do movies, and they can’t sustain the interest of the Jim/Pam thing forever, so it’ll be a good reason to end it.

_Fraiser_ sustained the unrequited love thing between Daphey and Niles for 7 or 8 seasons, mainly by keeping one or the other involved with someone else for most of the run. I imagine The Office will do something similar.

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808/52 "2006-02-10T20:51:35Z")

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If you think economics aren’t BBC’s primary motivator of creative decisions you’re awfully naive. They certainly have a different economic calculus than free TV does in the U.S. due to the license fee and the different subsidiary markets, but still – money makes the world go 'round.

And I think it’s exceedingly unlikely that the show would go on without Carrell. Mostly because I know NBC isn’t that stupid. This is his show. It’s not at all like ER where the process is the star, not the actors.

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808/53 "2006-02-10T20:51:50Z")

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> [@cbawlmer](#):
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> That is EXACTLY the analogy I gave my husband last night. We have Sbarro down here in Houston, but he avoids malls so he’d never seen one.

It’s also that sbarro is like Starbucks in the touristy areas of NYC: one on every corner and you can eat in one with a view of another.

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**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808/54 "2006-02-10T20:58:31Z")

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> [@Cliffy](#):
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> If you think economics aren’t BBC’s primary motivator of creative decisions you’re awfully naive. They certainly have a different economic calculus than free TV does in the U.S. due to the license fee and the different subsidiary markets, but still – money makes the world go 'round.
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> And I think it’s exceedingly unlikely that the show would go on without Carrell. Mostly because I know NBC isn’t that stupid. This is his show. It’s not at all like ER where the process is the star, not the actors.
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> –Cliffy

I said it wasn’t JUST motivated by money. I’m really not all that naive. 🙂 But British shows are allowed to get in, do their bit, and get out, and aren’t forced to continue until they’re bizarre parodies of their former selves, like _ER_.

Do you really think it’s Carrell’s show? I like him, but on this show I’d barely notice if he was gone. His is the least interesting character on the show. In fact, if he wasn’t there you’d lose some wacky hijinks and gain time for the stuff that’s \*really \* funny, which is the completely realistic interactions between all the other characters.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808/55 "2006-02-10T20:59:04Z")

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Ryan: I can’t believe I hooked up with a girl on February 13th.

Who hasn’t had a moment of horrific realization like that one before?

-Jo

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808/56 "2006-02-10T21:04:16Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> I thought it would have been hilarious if they revealed that Dwight in his panicked state actually gave Angela the ONLY key to his place and at the end say him yell at a locksmith to work faster ;).

Ha! I had that same thought. Only I pictured him sheepishly asking her to borrow it back.

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808/57 "2006-02-12T00:22:19Z")

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> [@Trunk](#):
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> Well, it wasn’t really a cunning ploy.
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> He was telling her, “I trust you and want to take this to the next level”.

Nonsense… he wants to bang her!

Again?.. do we know that they’ve gone beyond the cuddling on the patio at the party?

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808/58 "2006-02-12T01:23:19Z")

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> [@What the .... ?!?!](#):
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> Again?.. do we know that they’ve gone beyond the cuddling on the patio at the party?

I don’t know if it’s canonical, but [Dwight’s blog](http://blogs.nbc.com/office/) makes several relatively discreet references to an ongoing relationship, like this one:

> [@Dwight Schrute](#):
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> Dear readers of Schrute-Space (many, many of whom are women) I need help in understanding what makes chicks tick.
> 
> For instance, I will hear a certain girl say “Do I look fat?” And I will respond, “What do you mean by fat? In some cultures, (bush pygmies), you would be considered ‘hefty’ or ‘chunky’ even. But to others (wisconsin) you would be as skinny as an anorexic.”
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> My observations are true and correct and yet I’m the one who has to apologize and buy 8 dozen roses and a dinner at Red Lobster in order to make up for it.
> 
> As Science officers Spock or Data would say, “highly illogical, Captain.”

Just sticking to the show, I might buy that Dwight is inept enough to go directly from drunken office-party grope to here’s-the-key-to-my-apartment, but Angela’s reaction (and, erm, thoughtful gift-giving) is a strong implication that they’ve got something going on outside of work. Oh yeah, and the way Dwight is mackin’ on his “Love animal.” They’re definitely going at it like lumpy, socially inept minks.

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**Author:** ![Tio\_Gringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5e925/32.png) [@Tio\_Gringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tio_Gringo)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808/59 "2006-02-12T04:22:28Z")

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Phyllis must be a _wild_ women in the sack!

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**Author:** ![Tio\_Gringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5e925/32.png) [@Tio\_Gringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tio_Gringo)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-feb-9-2006/343808/60 "2006-02-12T04:23:31Z")

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> [@EvilAsh](#):
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> Phyllis must be a _wild_ women in the sack!

…make that a wild _woman_. :smack:

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