# The Office--hour episode starts at 8 PM EST
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [December 14, 2006, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195 "2006-12-14T22:19:45Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2006, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195/21 "2006-12-15T15:35:44Z")
[QUOTE=Dinsdale]
I agree - excellent ep.
But can anyone explain to me how they ended up with 2 different waitresses than they were talking to at the restaurant?
One thing that kinda struck me as a clinker was the couple sitting amid the 4 guys - thought it was really unrealistic and didn’t think the “I can’t hear anything” added much (until he started explaining how to kill poultry!) But that is picking he tiniest of nits.
Loved Toby at the beginning, “We went over this, Dwight…”
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I agree that the couple not shifting down one seat was glaringly unrealistic, but added some great Dwight moments.
I thought maybe I was as blind as Michael because the waitresses looked different from the ones at the restaurant to me too. Maybe there was a deleted scene in the restaurant where the first two waitresses we see set up the boys with two other waitresses. Unless someone comes in here and tells us they were the same girls with their hair down.
“All . . . waitresses look the same.”
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### Author:  [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2006, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195/22 "2006-12-15T15:51:55Z")
[QUOTE=RumMunkey]
He hasn’t.
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Oh, whew.
My heart almost broke when Jim straightened up and declined to accept Pam’s “present”. Hmm, and Karen thinks Roy is cute. Perhaps it will be the junior-high-school partners shuffle. :smack:
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### Author:  [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2006, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195/23 "2006-12-15T16:04:52Z")
Loved the episode, but I do think there are times when Michael gets too close to acting actually a bit mentally hadicapped. The whole bit with Carol (“Turn around.”) to cancelling Christmas was just barely on the correct side of believable, IMO. Michael is clueless I realize but sometimes it is too much.
I know where I work we would never be allowed to have a Margarita party with vodka.
Still I was dying through much of it.
What was the movie Jim and Karen got each other?
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### Author:  [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2006, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195/24 "2006-12-15T16:05:01Z")
“And then…your HO ain’t your HO NO MO!”
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### Author:  [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2006, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195/25 "2006-12-15T16:12:44Z")
So what was that interaction between Toby and the big guy in the bathrobe. Seemed weird. Creed sings! Michael’s listening to the sample cut on his computer over and over.
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### Author:  [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2006, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195/26 "2006-12-15T16:14:02Z")
Oh yeah, Creed taking a present instead of leaving one cracked me up.
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### Author:  [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2006, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195/27 "2006-12-15T16:16:56Z")
[QUOTE=Chefguy]
So what was that interaction between Toby and the big guy in the bathrobe. Seemed weird.
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They came up one short on bathrobes so Michael said Dwight could take Toby’s away. Toby was longing for the bathrobe himself so that’s why he was stroking what he wished he could have. Pam must have given hers to Toby at the end.
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### Author:  [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2006, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195/28 "2006-12-15T16:21:43Z")
The Kevin-led group singalong of “You Oughta Know” just about killed me.
My husband and I were trying to figure out what movie Jim and Karen gave each other. Quick reference to my own DVD shelf revealed that it was _Bridget Jones’ Diary 2: The Edge of Reason_. My sister loaned it to me and I haven’t watched it yet, but apparently the official view of _The Office_ is that it’s terrible. 😉
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### Author:  [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2006, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195/29 "2006-12-15T16:37:27Z")
My impression of the DVD exchange was that then Bridget Jones movie was something they had seen together on an early date and both thought was terrible (with both of them probably cracking wise, MST3000 style, all the way through it). Then, with both of them having the same sense of humor (and not a wide range of shared experience yet), they both got the other the DVD as a gag gift.
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### Author:  [@RumMunkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RumMunkey)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2006, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195/30 "2006-12-15T17:07:28Z")
> [@](#):
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> Quick reference to my own DVD shelf revealed that it was Bridget Jones’ Diary 2: The Edge of Reason. My sister loaned it to me and I haven’t watched it yet, but apparently the official view of The Office is that it’s terrible
Oh, it **is**!
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### Author:  [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2006, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195/31 "2006-12-15T17:09:27Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]
My impression of the DVD exchange was that then Bridget Jones movie was something they had seen together on an early date and both thought was terrible (with both of them probably cracking wise, MST3000 style, all the way through it). Then, with both of them having the same sense of humor (and not a wide range of shared experience yet), they both got the other the DVD as a gag gift.
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That was my exact take on that too.
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### Author:  [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2006, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195/32 "2006-12-15T17:49:30Z")
My guess was that tune Creed was singing was by the Grass Roots, but I’m not familiar with their ouvre. Anyone hip to that?
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### Author:  [@teemingONE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teemingONE)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2006, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195/33 "2006-12-15T18:10:16Z")
I think this is an incredible show.
But does anyone else feel sorta bad for Meredith? She’s an alcoholic and her exchanges with other characters about it is usually very funny. But I still feel very bad for her and I sorta want her to get help and get better.
I know it’s just a show but it’s great how we can feel for the characters too.
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### Author:  [@some\_white\_dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/some_white_dude)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2006, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195/34 "2006-12-15T18:44:13Z")
[QUOTE=Dinsdale]
My guess was that tune Creed was singing was by the Grass Roots, but I’m not familiar with their ouvre. Anyone hip to that?
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I thought so too, but the Grass Roots were active in the 60s and 70s. That song that Creed was singing sounded more New Wave-ish to me, but I could be wrong. It woulda been a great touch by the writers.
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### Author:  [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2006, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195/35 "2006-12-15T18:45:13Z")
[QUOTE=Cuckoorex]
“And then…your HO ain’t your HO NO MO!”
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Gawd that made me laugh, that and marking the waitress’ arm.
For this and _MNIEarl_ both, I love the one hour formats. Extended gigglage.
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### Author:  [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2006, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195/36 "2006-12-15T18:48:22Z")
[QUOTE=cbawlmer]
The Kevin-led group singalong of “You Oughta Know” just about killed me.
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Yes, even Ryan was head-bobbing and mouthing along to that.
I’m not ashamed to admit “We Belong” is one of my favorites, even after it was used in some commercial recently. But the sound of Kellie singing it may have turned my mind against it.
[QUOTE=Team of Scientists]
I thought so too, but the Grass Roots were active in the 60s and 70s. That song that Creed was singing sounded more New Wave-ish to me, but I could be wrong. It woulda been a great touch by the writers.
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According to [these boards](http://boards.nbc.com/nbc/index.php?showtopic=700540&st=80), it’s \<\\> and plays when you open the website.
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### Author:  [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2006, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195/37 "2006-12-15T19:00:49Z")
[QUOTE=RumMunkey]
He hasn’t (been married before).
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I didn’t think so either but I could have sworn he mentioned an ex recently…
Oh, and the funniest part of the show was when Michael was drowning his sorrows over that James Blount song:
Dwight: “Why don’t you just buy the whole song?”
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### Author:  [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2006, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195/38 "2006-12-15T19:07:58Z")
[QUOTE=PunditLisa]
I didn’t think so either but I could have sworn he mentioned an ex recently…
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Given that he also referred to the waitress in this episode as an “ex,” I would guess that Michael has a pretty loose definiton for how he uses the term. He tends to immediately categorize any kind of romantic encounter or casual date as a “relationship,” regardless of how little may actually be there.
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### Author:  [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2006, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195/39 "2006-12-15T20:02:51Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]
Something about Pam and Karen together was kind of…hot. Does Jim dare try to work the three way?
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Totally hot. Especially during the paired talking head when Karen said she didn’t think they had taking it far enough, and something about how they were going to wipe out Angela’s party, then Pam said “I got goosebumps”.
I also got… something akin to goosebumps.
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### Author:  [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2006, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-hour-episode-starts-at-8-pm-est/384195/40 "2006-12-15T22:37:02Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]
Given that he also referred to the waitress in this episode as an “ex,” I would guess that Michael has a pretty loose definiton for how he uses the term. He tends to immediately categorize any kind of romantic encounter or casual date as a “relationship,” regardless of how little may actually be there.
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Oh, okay. I’m new to the show. I have S1 and S2 on my iPod and am catching up.
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