# The Office: "Money" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 19, 2007, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264 "2007-10-19T03:31:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![rucciface](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ba9def/32.png) [@rucciface](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rucciface)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264/41 "2007-10-19T16:21:58Z")
[QUOTE=Skipper Too] So one thing that I question is Michaels mentions that he and Jan traded in their two cars for one, a Porche, I thought his Sebring was a company car, a perk for branch managers. I know it was a rental that he drove in the Lake, where is his Sebring, or was only having one car soley a plot device? [/QUOTE] It looks like a plot device, as his Sebring went to the body shop after running over Meredith a couple of episodes ago. Now it’s gone altogether. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264/42 "2007-10-19T16:28:02Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] What’re **McNew** , **PunditLisa** , and I? Chopped liver? 😛 [/QUOTE] Anytime **Liberal** and I agree on something, you know it must be revealed truth. Apart from Mose running beside the car, there were no laugh out loud moments. There were only a couple of simply amusing moments too - the exchange between Pam and Jim from “Beets Motel” to “How are you doing this?” and the discussion on “whomever.” An hour of unfunny. Show me the funny - that’s what the office is supposed to be. ---
**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264/43 "2007-10-19T16:32:08Z")
I don’t think I’d like to try beet wine. I noticed during the credits that B. J. Novak (Ryan) is also a producer of the show. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264/44 "2007-10-19T16:35:11Z")
[QUOTE=plnnr] I noticed during the credits that B. J. Novak (Ryan) is also a producer of the show. [/QUOTE] Hasn’t that always been the case? ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264/45 "2007-10-19T16:41:44Z")
[QUOTE=Rasa] Those were her sunglasses she put in the box car. Ugly aviator sunglasses. [/QUOTE] Oh, that’s better. (And yeah, I was wondering if it was the same cat too.) ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264/46 "2007-10-19T16:49:56Z")
I felt bad for Michael when the cut to him in the telesales office. Now is it Jan sucking him dry of funds or his own stupid money squandering (like trying to sell his house on Ebay)? I’m thinking the former, with the porsche purchase. ---
**Author:** ![myskepticsight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@myskepticsight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/myskepticsight)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264/47 "2007-10-19T16:51:39Z")
[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian] Hasn’t that always been the case? [/QUOTE] Yeah AFAIK but maybe **plnnr** just now noticed that in the credits. I want my boyfriend and I to be Jim and Pam. They crack me up. Some of my friends lost interest when their relationship was revealed but I like seeing more of it. I liked the bits of seriousness in this episode - it has to happen every once in awhile to progress certain storylines. And the whomever conversation was pretty much perfect. What exactly did Michael say to Toby when Toby told him he was wrong? Something about a letter opener? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264/48 "2007-10-19T17:03:21Z")
[QUOTE=kingpengvin] I felt bad for Michael when the cut to him in the telesales office. Now is it Jan sucking him dry of funds or his own stupid money squandering (like trying to sell his house on Ebay)? I’m thinking the former, with the porsche purchase. [/QUOTE] According to Oscar, a lot of it was because Michael had run up a lot of credit card debt on frivolous purchases that “nobody needs” like DVD box sets of _The Muppet Show_," “multiple magic kits,” professional bass fishing gear and expensive exercise equipment. ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264/49 "2007-10-19T17:13:46Z")
[QUOTE=kingpengvin] I felt bad for Michael when the cut to him in the telesales office. Now is it Jan sucking him dry of funds or his own stupid money squandering (like trying to sell his house on Ebay)? I’m thinking the former, with the porsche purchase. [/QUOTE] They made it sound like it was a little of both. They traded in two cars for one Porsche (which should have been impossible, since it was a company car. But, I guess Michael found away around it. Much like he found an easy way to declare bankruptcy.) And, Jan was talking about all the stuff they were buying for the house at the beginning of the episode. Then again, when Oscar was showing Michael his finances he pointed to the black bar and all the things noone needs, these things were all Michael purchases. Another thing that cracked me up was when Jan told Michael to improv that he had a car. pat ---
**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264/50 "2007-10-19T17:19:18Z")
Too many funny throw-away lines to count, but the scene that made me laugh even harder than Mose chasing the car was the short cut-away that showed Andy catching the cat in the wharehouse. He was trying to trap it between the box and lid while simultaneously trying to stay as far away from it as possible. That must be one feral feline. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264/51 "2007-10-19T17:39:00Z")
[QUOTE=PoorYorick] That must be one feral feline. [/QUOTE] And Angela must have an affinity for feral felines. Kitty took to being carried around pretty well. That cat was almost as big as Angela! ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264/52 "2007-10-19T17:45:19Z")
They need these episodes every once in awhile to remind you why they stick around each other. It’s not like a disfuctional TV sitcom, this is a job, these people choose to work at DM. ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264/53 "2007-10-19T17:45:36Z")
[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian] Hasn’t that always been the case? [/QUOTE] And Angela and Toby are real life sister/brother! Yes, true. > [@myskepticsight](#): > > What exactly did Michael say to Toby when Toby told him he was wrong? Something about a letter opener? I think he told him to shove a letter opener into his head/brain. I don’t recall the exact exchange either. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264/54 "2007-10-19T17:47:49Z")
[QUOTE=AuntiePam] And Angela must have an affinity for feral felines. Kitty took to being carried around pretty well. That cat was almost as big as Angela! [/QUOTE] Yeah, that cat was definitely Garbage (the one Dwight brought in from the barn, and then turned loose at Vance Refrigeration). Which is probably what did Dwight in. He brings in the cat–he gets yelled at. Andy brings in the cat–he gets to ask Angela out to dinner. I thought this episode had a great combination of serious/touching moments, and hilarious moments. My heart broke for both Michael and Dwight, which is good after all the over-the-top buffoonery of the last few episodes. I don’t understand all the complains that Pam and Jim are annoying because they’re “better” than everybody else. They’ve always been better than everybody else, in some ways. They’ve certainly always been the ones who hated to see either Michael or Dwight in really bad, painful situations. Pam has helped Dwight before, and some of their best moments have been when lending support or help to Michael. All the characters seem to be behaving entirely in character to me. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264/55 "2007-10-19T17:50:13Z")
[QUOTE=Cubsfan] This episode was jank. It wasn’t funny and I thought the camera crew being at Schrute Farm was way out of wack. The only funny parts were Mose running next to the car as they drove up to the farm and Michael calling Stanley as a TM. That’s it. Jim and Pam aren’t cute anymore they are obnoxiously “superior” to the rest of the cast. Jan is completely unlikeable (though I didn’t see the last 5 minutes). She used to be hot and smart now she’s drunk and bitchy. Michael is still a buffoon who is more unlikable every episode. Ryan and Darrel are amusing though. Damn Kelly is one unattractive lady. [/QUOTE] You seem to take your _Office_ verrrrrry seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264/56 "2007-10-19T18:06:02Z")
[QUOTE=Sleeps With Butterflies] You seem to take your _Office_ verrrrrry seriously. [/QUOTE] Umm, this _is_ the place for us to discuss what we think about “The Office,” isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![peedin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peedin/32/14095_2.png) [@peedin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peedin)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264/57 "2007-10-19T18:07:37Z")
[QUOTE=Uncommon Sense] And Angela and Toby are real life sister/brother! Yes, true. [/QUOTE] Nope, in real life, the actress who plays Angela is married to the brother of the actor who plays Toby. ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264/58 "2007-10-19T18:08:47Z")
[QUOTE=Uncommon Sense] And Angela and Toby are real life sister/brother! Yes, true. . [/QUOTE] I was going to say you were insane. But, then I looked it up and I saw that you aren’t as crazy as I thought. Real life sister-in-law/brother-in-law. She is married to Toby’s brother, according to the IMDB. And, Toby’s sister is married to series developer Greg Daniels. Big happy family! Oh well. Took me a minute too long to look that up. Scooped by **peedin**! pat ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264/59 "2007-10-19T18:17:27Z")
[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian] Apart from Mose running beside the car, there were no laugh out loud moments. There were only a couple of simply amusing moments too - the exchange between Pam and Jim from “Beets Motel” to “How are you doing this?” and the discussion on “whomever.” [/QUOTE] Not even the “Radishon” comment? I also liked Pams comment about setting Angela and Andy up: “I couldn’t do that to Dwight…or Angela…or Andy” [QUOTE=McNew] But you left out one of the few funny lines- at the end of Jim’s little speech, he said “…and I wouldn’t wish that on anyone, not even my worst enemy. And that includes you”, leaving us and Dwight to wonder whether he’s including Dwight in the “anyone” or in the “worst enemy” category. [/QUOTE] I was wondering that myself. It seemed to me that Jim knows that Dwight is happiest when he is in competition or conflict with someone. The first thing Dwight did when he got back to his desk was push Jims stuff away with his ruler and start making sales calls. ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264/60 "2007-10-19T18:25:45Z")
I loved this episode; one of my favorites so far. This episode really seems to have polarized the Office audience, though. Odd. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-money-open-spoilers/423264.md?page=4)