# The Office premiers tonight 9/23 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 23, 2010, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782 "2010-09-23T16:52:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782/21 "2010-09-24T16:24:41Z")
They were making a video to post on YouTube. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782/22 "2010-09-24T16:46:28Z")
I loved Creed’s comment about watching the debate. So weird and fits him perfectly, but not in a we-must-make-him-more-insane-every-week-to-get-laughs way. Also loved Kelly talking about how smart she is now. Quite an enjoyable episode. ---
**Author:** ![Lunar\_Saltlick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/977dab/32.png) [@Lunar\_Saltlick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lunar_Saltlick)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782/23 "2010-09-24T17:04:28Z")
> [@corkboard](#): > > Best part of the show was the opening number, which I watched three times (despite my wife’s eye-rollyness), mainly to watch Pam dancing. So cute she kills me. I actually preferred Jim dancing, in the background, after Pam gets him out of the chair. I think every time that Jim has had to dance informally in the series, he’s always done that sort of weird bouncing-on-the-spot thing with his arms flat against his sides. He’s such a little boy, getting by on humor, irony, sarcasm, etc. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782/24 "2010-09-24T17:05:41Z")
I felt sorry for Michael in this episode. Yeah, he should not have hired his own nephew, the nephew was a horrible worker who deserved to be fired, but Michael’s sister was emotional blackmailing him. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782/25 "2010-09-24T17:33:41Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > Also loved Kelly talking about how smart she is now. Quite an enjoyable episode. I agree, I love fake-smart Kelly now. They changed her just enough so she _sounds_ smart, until you pay attention to what she’s saying. > [@Lunar\_Saltlick](#): > > > [@corkboard](#): > > > > Best part of the show was the opening number, which I watched three times (despite my wife’s eye-rollyness), mainly to watch Pam dancing. So cute she kills me. > > I actually preferred Jim dancing, in the background, after Pam gets him out of the chair. I think every time that Jim has had to dance informally in the series, he’s always done that sort of weird bouncing-on-the-spot thing with his arms flat against his sides. He’s such a little boy, getting by on humor, irony, sarcasm, etc. Yeah, he was doing the same dance during the cafe disco episode. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782/26 "2010-09-24T17:35:34Z")
Honestly thought the musical opening was probably the most shark jumpy thing. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782/27 "2010-09-24T17:36:44Z")
I like that the more upset Jim is, the more pleasant he becomes. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782/28 "2010-09-24T17:42:49Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > > [@MaxTheVool](#): > > > > Also loved Kelly talking about how smart she is now. Quite an enjoyable episode. > > I agree, I love fake-smart Kelly now. They changed her just enough so she _sounds_ smart, until you pay attention to what she’s saying. > > > [@Lunar\_Saltlick](#): > > > > I actually preferred Jim dancing, in the background, after Pam gets him out of the chair. I think every time that Jim has had to dance informally in the series, he’s always done that sort of weird bouncing-on-the-spot thing with his arms flat against his sides. He’s such a little boy, getting by on humor, irony, sarcasm, etc. > > Yeah, he was doing the same dance during the cafe disco episode. I can’t think of the character’s name, but I immediately thought of the one in the orange shirt when I saw Jim dancing. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YBPcoI4OE9Y/hqdefault.jpg "charlie Brown Christmas Dance") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBPcoI4OE9Y) ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782/29 "2010-09-24T18:05:30Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > So that’s how their going to write him out of the show? Do we think this is it? Will Michael really forfeit his job instead of having six sessions with Toby? Well, I guess I can see Michael doing that. OTOH, maybe the decide they’d rather keep him and bring Holly in to do the sessions. I doubt this is how they’re going to write Michael out of the show, as I expect Steve Carell to stay through the rest of the season, and I don’t see them dragging this storyline out that long. ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782/30 "2010-09-24T18:32:22Z")
[quote=“enalzi, post:25, topic:554782”] > [@MaxTheVool](#): > > I agree, I love fake-smart Kelly now. They changed her just enough so she _sounds_ smart, until you pay attention to what she’s saying. Level playing field = zoning issue ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782/31 "2010-09-24T18:52:29Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > > [@Sigmagirl](#): > > > > This is his last season. Assuming the show continues, someone will have to replace Michael Scott. Speculation rages. > > I’m rooting for Rhys Darby. He gives fantastic meeting. “Okay … staff meeting … Roll call!” **Read at your own risk:** You must visit the same web site I do. There are a few people that are rumored to be the new boss, including some in the main cast. > [@Hampshire](#): > > I liked Creed’s dis of Betty White especially since I couldn’t agree more. So true! That woman is everywhere. So apparently there are a lot of ‘Lip Dub’ videos on YouTube these days, with offices and schools. That’s what they were going for. I would look up an example on YouTube, but I’ll take the staff’s word for it. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782/32 "2010-09-24T22:10:44Z")
The opening number was better than I expected, mostly because I expected it to make me angry and/or want to retch, but _Drew Carey_ used to do it way better. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782/33 "2010-09-25T02:05:14Z")
By the way, one of the packages that Luke failed to send out was one containing the pants that Michael wanted to return to the retailer, which was said to be Talbots. Was that a mistake on the part of the writer, or meant to be a character quirk, that he’d buy clothes from a womens retailer? ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782/34 "2010-09-25T02:23:01Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > By the way, one of the packages that Luke failed to send out was one containing the pants that Michael wanted to return to the retailer, which was said to be Talbots. Was that a mistake on the part of the writer, or meant to be a character quirk, that he’d buy clothes from a womens retailer? Ooh, that could be a callback to one of the early seasons when Michael was unknowingly wearing a woman’s suit. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@Captain\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782/35 "2010-09-25T12:34:25Z")
I saw it tonight and laughed my ass off. The Dwight character however is a bit cartoonish, they should tone him down a bit. The key bit was hilarious. Tobey Flenderson always looks and acts stoned. Look at his eyes. Nard-Dog going to fly into rages over losing Erin to that other HR geek. I always thought the actress who plays Erin looks a bit like a young Mary Tyler Moore. Not enough Creed Bratton! How about Creed being allowed to play guitar. The dude was actually a rock star back in the 1960’s. The Indian chick is hot. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782/36 "2010-09-25T13:10:11Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > So that’s how their going to write him out of the show? Do we think this is it? Will Michael really forfeit his job instead of having six sessions with Toby? Well, I guess I can see Michael doing that. OTOH, maybe the decide they’d rather keep him and bring Holly in to do the sessions. They’re probably going to do a ton of “near firings” just like all of the “near breakups” they had for Pam and Jim before they got engaged. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782/37 "2010-09-25T13:39:43Z")
I don’t remember any near breakups between Pam and Jim. They’re relationship is pretty smooth which is why I hope that it’s no longer part of the plot. That story has been told. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782/38 "2010-09-25T13:40:20Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > I loved Creed’s comment about watching the debate. So weird and fits him perfectly, but not in a we-must-make-him-more-insane-every-week-to-get-laughs way. Also loved Kelly talking about how smart she is now. Quite an enjoyable episode. He had a front row seat! ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782/39 "2010-09-25T14:51:39Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > I don’t remember any near breakups between Pam and Jim. They’re relationship is pretty smooth which is why I hope that it’s no longer part of the plot. That story has been told. Yeah. There was the time where she failed a class and didn’t know if she would stay in NY to take it again. Then there was the time where Jim talked to Pam’s father which lead him to break it off with her mom when her parents were going through a rough patch. But not really any near breakups. I do know what **Justin\_Bailey** ’s saying though, and I hope they don’t throw in a bunch of “near firings” before he leaves either. Even with all the spoilers I’ve read over the years, I still find most episodes offer some things that are new that I wasn’t aware of. So I hope this season isn’t full of Michael ‘almost getting terminated’ or ‘will this be what ends Michael Scott’s employment at Dunder Mifflin Sabre?’ story lines. I personally hope he takes a salesman job at the Nashua branch that Holly works at, and doesn’t get fired. By the way, I liked this episode… didn’t express that in earlier posts. I was expecting more out of a season opener. But the last few years, the big storylines often came after the first episode of the season. Last years season final was satisfying (to me), but no big cliffhangers. ---
**Author:** ![lindsaybluth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90db22/32.png) [@lindsaybluth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsaybluth)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782/40 "2010-09-25T17:40:47Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > I liked Creed’s dis of Betty White especially since I couldn’t agree more. Hey, as a young person I LOVE Betty White. I still want Holly back. She was great. One of the few couplings I really enjoyed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-premiers-tonight-9-23/554782.md?page=3)