# The Office: "Prince Family Paper" (Open Spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 23, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582 "2009-01-23T04:24:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/21 "2009-01-23T21:54:32Z")

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“It’s ‘is she hot,’ not ‘would you do her.’ Respect the game.”

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/22 "2009-01-23T22:15:59Z")

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“Are you really going to let the Kevins of the world decide this? We don’t even give him full internet access!”  
“Wait, what?”

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/23 "2009-01-24T03:20:42Z")

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“So, how long have you owned this business?”

“Ever since I got back from Vietnam.”

“I hear its lovely.”

Michael cracks me up.

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**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/24 "2009-01-24T03:49:30Z")

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Viet Nam _is_ lovely, at least bits of it are. 🙂 I liked that line especially, since the first time I came here, no one could think of it as a country apart from the war. It’s nice to see someone, even Michael, erring in the opposite direction.

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**Author:** ![mshar253](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@mshar253](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mshar253)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/25 "2009-01-24T04:41:38Z")

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CRAAP! Lost’s new season made me completely forget about The Office this week. Thank God most network TV is streamed now…

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/26 "2009-01-24T04:57:42Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> “It’s ‘is she hot,’ not ‘would you do her.’ Respect the game.”

My out-loud reaction? “I love guys!” Er, not THAT way. Just in the way of knowing and accepting what rule-obsessed horndogs we are. That summed it up in just a few words.

Oh, and I’m still on the fence regarding Ms Swank, but I’m leaning toward, “Not a classical beauty, but a woman whose animal magnetism goes beyond such trivial things. Hot.”

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**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/27 "2009-01-24T05:30:56Z")

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[Hot.](http://www.wallpaperbase.com/wallpapers/celebs/hilaryswank/hilary_swank_5.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/28 "2009-01-24T05:35:54Z")

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> [@iamthewalrus\_3](#):
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> [Hot.](http://www.wallpaperbase.com/wallpapers/celebs/hilaryswank/hilary_swank_5.jpg)

She’s a butter face.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/29 "2009-01-24T05:38:24Z")

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> [@iamthewalrus\_3](#):
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> [Hot.](http://www.wallpaperbase.com/wallpapers/celebs/hilaryswank/hilary_swank_5.jpg)

Sweet Jebus.

I will opine that she was hot in Karate Kid III, but I don’t know if I have seen her in anything since.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/30 "2009-01-24T16:59:20Z")

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> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#):
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> Sweet Jebus.
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> I will opine that she was hot in Karate Kid III, but I don’t know if I have seen her in anything since.

She wasn’t hot at all in the Karate Kid III - mostly because she wasn’t in it. 🙂

She was in [The Next Karate Kid](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110657/)

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**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/31 "2009-01-24T17:07:14Z")

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Am I crazy or did it say it was directed by Steve Buscemi?

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/32 "2009-01-24T17:09:27Z")

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I think that was “30 Rock”, **Ensign**.

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**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/33 "2009-01-24T17:11:56Z")

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Ah that was probably it, thanks. I gotta stop sleeping in the Giant Pod of TV Screens.

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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/34 "2009-01-24T19:23:09Z")

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I too thought it was really strange that there wasn’t a single mention of the Dwight / Andy / Angela conflict.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/35 "2009-01-24T19:51:26Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Soooooo…
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> Hillary Swank, hot or not?

Definitely not. It’s clear she’s attractive, but Kevin is right, the question was “Is she hot?” and she’s not.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/36 "2009-01-24T20:09:03Z")

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> [@Morbo](#):
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> She looks like Matt Damon in drag.

I’ve never seen them both at the same time in the same place. I think you’re onto something.

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/37 "2009-01-24T21:31:39Z")

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> [@Morbo](#):
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> She looks like Matt Damon in drag.

> [@Rubystreak](#):
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> She’s a butter face.

Though I agree she isn’t in-fact “hot” NO WAY she’s THAT bad. Maybe Matt Damon looks like her in drag. If they were brother and sister, I may see the resemblance, but “mannish” she is not, (unless she’s playing a man, or a woman that wants to be a man).

“Butter face”… REALLY!? I mean… REALLY!? I’ve seen butter faces before. I don’t agree she IS one.

I thought Oscar’s argument on symmetry was counter-productive, in the example he was using it showed her face is pretty damn close to being perfect as far as that’s concerned.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/38 "2009-01-24T21:44:38Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> “Butter face”… REALLY!? I mean… REALLY!? I’ve seen butter faces before. I don’t agree she IS one.

What do you think butter face means? It means she has a hot body but her face ain’t great. I think she has a horsey, not particularly pretty, face. Her body is smokin’. Hence, butter face. She’s not hideous by any stretch, and if you like her face, you’d probably think she was hot. I don’t, and I think that was the Not Hot coalition’s stance.

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/39 "2009-01-24T22:18:57Z")

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I can see the confusion. Like “Hot” I believe I’ve always held a certain… ‘grouping’ for “butter face” women. A face has to be a certain level of unattractive to qualify. By my standards, she’s not a butter face.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/40 "2009-01-24T22:21:16Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> I thought Oscar’s argument on symmetry was counter-productive, in the example he was using it showed her face is pretty damn close to being perfect as far as that’s concerned.

I thought Oscar’s presentation was interesting, simply as a counter-example. Facial symmetry is supposed to be an aspect of beauty, and as he showed, Swank has near-perfect facial symmetry. However, this does not change how wildly unattractive she is.

And not in the least bit hot.

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