# The Office: "Prince Family Paper" (Open Spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 23, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582 "2009-01-23T04:24:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/41 "2009-01-24T22:30:36Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > I thought Oscar’s argument on symmetry was counter-productive, in the example he was using it showed her face is pretty damn close to being perfect as far as that’s concerned. I think his point was that, while she may have pleasant facial features, that didn’t mean she was “hot”. Like Kevin’s comment about how a painting might be beautiful, but you wouldn’t say a painting is “hot”. (What were his exact words, that he wouldn’t bang a painting?) ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/42 "2009-01-24T22:37:25Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > I thought Oscar’s presentation was interesting, simply as a counter-example. Facial symmetry is supposed to be an aspect of beauty, and as he showed, Swank has near-perfect facial symmetry. However, this does not change how wildly unattractive she is. > > And not in the least bit hot. Perhaps someone brought up her facial symmetry before Oscar touched on it. I wouldn’t see a reason to bring up an argument that could have been used for the other side, just to point out that despite that fact, she was still definitely not “hot”. …Unless he wanted to show that he was so convinced in the fact that she was NOT “hot”, that he decided to “recognize” the quality even if nobody had, but then confidently proclaim; “Still not hot!” So as to relate to the other side’s argument, but stay true to his convictions. I would like to here all their arguments, maybe in deleted scenes. **Lamia** , just saw your post. See the point. ---
**Author:** ![Quercus\_alba](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quercus_alba/32/4061_2.png) [@Quercus\_alba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus_alba)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/43 "2009-01-25T01:29:08Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Dwight chasing Michael all over the building and the parking lot was funny. Doesn’t Michael know where they keep the shredder? After Dwight’s speech, I thought it was headed for a Frodo (Michael) and Gollum (Dwight) showdown of some sort–perhaps at the shredder. 😃 Also, loved Stanley’s “summation”. ---
**Author:** ![Lionne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Lionne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lionne)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/44 "2009-01-25T01:47:11Z")
I say [she’s]([http://www.egotastic.com/image?path=0612/hilary-swank-pirelli-05.jpg&info=Hilary](http://www.egotastic.com/image?path=0612/hilary-swank-pirelli-05.jpg&info=Hilary) Swank Pirelli Pictures) [hot](http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n309/KLIZZLE99/swank7.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/45 "2009-01-25T04:27:14Z")
> [@interface2x](#): > > I think that was “30 Rock”, **Ensign**. Thanks, I was going to answer it myself but I forgot if it was 30 Rock or Earl. You are correct. Makes me wonder what else Buscemi’s directed that I didn’t notice. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/46 "2009-01-25T04:31:19Z")
> [@Lionne](#): > > I say [she’s]([http://www.egotastic.com/image?path=0612/hilary-swank-pirelli-05.jpg&info=Hilary](http://www.egotastic.com/image?path=0612/hilary-swank-pirelli-05.jpg&info=Hilary) Swank Pirelli Pictures) [hot](http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n309/KLIZZLE99/swank7.jpg). I notice her face is mostly obscured in both those pictures. 😉 [Not](http://www.imnotobsessed.com/image/hswanbby.jpg) [hot](http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/241637~Hilary-Swank-Posters.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/47 "2009-01-25T04:39:08Z")
> [@Khadaji](#): > > She wasn’t hot at all in the Karate Kid III - mostly because she wasn’t in it. 🙂 > > She was in [The Next Karate Kid](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110657/) :smack: At least I got it sort of right. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/48 "2009-01-25T05:08:35Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > I notice her face is mostly obscured in both those pictures. 😉 > > [Not](http://www.imnotobsessed.com/image/hswanbby.jpg) [hot](http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/241637~Hilary-Swank-Posters.jpg). I have seen many NSFW photos that. I understand, include her face. Bag over her head = SMOKIN’! Bag not over her head = SMOKIN’, but with the chance to relate to her as a real, if ultra-attractive, person. She wins in both counts. FTR, Oscar’s vote shoudn’t count. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![silk1976](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@silk1976](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silk1976)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/49 "2009-01-25T05:14:04Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Another thing. The red wire prank was funny. I just wanna know where the writers keep getting these prank ideas from. Most of them are pretty good (but I still think the nickels in the phone trick was the best). ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/50 "2009-01-25T05:29:53Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > I have seen many NSFW photos that. I understand, include her face. Bag over her head = SMOKIN’! Bag not over her head = SMOKIN’, but with the chance to relate to her as a real, if ultra-attractive, person. She wins in both counts. > > FTR, Oscar’s vote shoudn’t count. 😉 Should mine not count either because I’m a straight woman? :dubious: You say smokin’, I say butter face. Eh. Where’s Michael to cast the deciding vote? ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/51 "2009-01-25T05:51:46Z")
I was really hoping that right after Michael said she was hot, Dwight would come out and say she wasn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/52 "2009-01-25T06:53:56Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > Though I agree she isn’t in-fact “hot” NO WAY she’s THAT bad. Maybe Matt Damon looks like her in drag. If they were brother and sister, I may see the resemblance, but “mannish” she is not, (unless she’s playing a man, or a woman that wants to be a man). She looks very mannish to me. She’s so not hot. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/53 "2009-01-25T08:45:22Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > She looks very mannish to me. She’s so not hot. She’s the anti-hot? Did people think she looked mannish before **Boys Don’t Cry**? ---
**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/54 "2009-01-25T14:05:05Z")
Yes. I loved how Jim tried to get everyone to just take a quick vote and then get back to work, but finally had to give in and spend the entire day on this pressing problem. But he really did try to lead…he’s just too nice a guy. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/55 "2009-01-26T07:06:19Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > She’s the anti-hot? > > Did people think she looked mannish before **Boys Don’t Cry**? Definitely. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-office-prince-family-paper-open-spoilers/482582/56 "2009-01-26T13:13:27Z")
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