# The official "Mr. Moto is a clueless right-wing Republican shill" thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 29, 2005, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797 "2005-07-29T19:54:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797/1 "2005-07-29T19:54:27Z")
Y’know, **Mr. Moto,** you’ve started some lame-ass “gotcha” threads in the past, but you’ve reached new zeniths of stupidity with this turkey: [Wow! Money for kids and seniors embezzled into Air America!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=327451) (If you haven’t read that thread already, please do so. Lotsa laughs for anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together) Not only is the title misleading, not only did you dredge up a year-old incident to “make” your “point,” but when folks demonstrated how off-base your OP was, you resort to the two-fisted dodges of (a) trying to smear Air America with guilt by association, and (b) whining about being a po’ unfairly persecuted rightie on the SDMB. But then, being a clueless right-wing Republican shill is standard procedure for **Mr. Moto,** who’s previously graced us with “Great” “Debates” like: [So is this what we can expect if leftists are allowed into Republican events?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=309882) (It’s great that GWB prevents ordinary folks from attending his events!) [Is Howard Dean screwing up as DNC chairman?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=318024) (The Dems aren’t as rich as the Republicans, so obviously Dean’s gotta go) [See, this is what happens when politicians go to military funerals uninvited.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=327128) (Bush ignores dead Iraq war personnel! Hooray!) Yeah, I know, this is like pitting the sun for being hot, or water for being wet. But it’s Friday, and that Air America thread has too much **Moto** -branded stupidity to be addressed in a non-Pit thread, IMO… ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797/2 "2005-07-29T19:58:17Z")
I’m not sure that political progress will be made in America until factions of both major parties decide that they will no longer tolerate corruption — not just in their opponents’ camp, but in their own. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797/3 "2005-07-29T19:59:06Z")
I have a comment that I could not find a home for in any of the other threads he’s involved in right now. Whenever a list is made of the honest, principled conservatives on the SDMB, his name comes up. Why that happens is honestly beyond me. He is neither honest nor principled; he merely toes the party line, whatever it may be. Toady would not be too strong a word. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797/4 "2005-07-29T20:03:26Z")
Wasn’t there a saying once somewhere about casting stones and being without sin? You are hardly the person to cast stones, **rjung**. ---
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797/5 "2005-07-29T20:05:44Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > Toady would not be too strong a word. **Brutus** , but without the amusing sense of humor. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797/6 "2005-07-29T20:06:52Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > I’m not sure that political progress will be made in America until factions of both major parties decide that they will no longer tolerate corruption. Oh. Yeah. _That’s_ gonna happen. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797/7 "2005-07-29T20:09:10Z")
> [@Eve](#): > > Oh. Yeah. _That’s_ gonna happen. Hey, it’s the REPUBLICANS that need to stop tolerating corruption in their own midst! I agree: **Mr. Moto** is hardly a shining beacon of fairness. Apropos of nothing, y’all should really listen to [this new band I’ve found](http://www.decemberists.com/). Daniel ---
**Author:** ![rorty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b2d939/32.png) [@rorty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rorty)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797/8 "2005-07-29T20:12:59Z")
Whatever happened to Brutus? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797/9 "2005-07-29T20:17:00Z")
> [@rorty](#): > > Whatever happened to Brutus? He dedided he wasn’t getting enough abuse for his $15, so he left. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797/10 "2005-07-29T20:17:33Z")
> [@rorty](#): > > Whatever happened to Brutus? He et tu much Kool-Aid. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797/11 "2005-07-29T20:19:25Z")
> [@rorty](#): > > Whatever happened to Brutus? I believe he didn’t renew. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797/12 "2005-07-29T20:20:39Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > Hey, it’s the REPUBLICANS that need to stop tolerating corruption in their own midst! :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797/13 "2005-07-29T20:21:41Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > :dubious: Whooooooshhhh! ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797/14 "2005-07-29T20:27:49Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > Apropos of nothing, y’all should really listen to [this new band I’ve found](http://www.decemberists.com/). > > Daniel You _just_ heard of the Decemberists? They’ve got three albums out. I’m just sayin’. I’m rarely on top of what the kiddies are listening to today, so I relish it when I’m ahead of _someone_. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797/15 "2005-07-29T20:28:39Z")
Yes, he’s conservative, and yes, he sometimes gets snarky (like that’s some kind of crime here), but I seem to recall several occasions in which **Mr. Moto** acknowledges that sometimes the other side can be right. OTOH, the OP says brilliant things like, > [@rjung](#): > > And I’ve always maintained that, while the Democrats are stupid, the Republicans are evil. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6396793&postcount=44](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6396793&postcount=44) It’s a pretty shallow tactic to attempt to hide partisanship by offering mild criticism to one side, and then accuse the other of being “evil.” ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797/16 "2005-07-29T20:32:25Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > OTOH, the OP says brilliant things like, [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6396793&postcount=44](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6396793&postcount=44) > > It’s a pretty shallow tactic to attempt to hide partisanship by offering mild criticism to one side, and then accuse the other of being “evil.” Does the word _hyperbole_ mean **anything** to you? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797/17 "2005-07-29T20:33:55Z")
> [@Excalibre](#): > > I’m just sayin’. I’m rarely on top of what the kiddies are listening to today, so I relish it when I’m ahead of _someone_. 🙂 Now, wait a minute. Didn’t you just inform me that you’re barely of drinking age? What gives, Kimosabe? ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797/18 "2005-07-29T20:34:48Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > I’m not sure that political progress will be made in America until factions of both major parties decide that they will no longer tolerate corruption — not just in their opponents’ camp, but in their own. What entails “not tolerating corruption” in your own party? Voting for the other guy? Not voting? ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797/19 "2005-07-29T20:35:14Z")
**Airman** nailed this one. **rjung** is a one trick pony, whos single contribution to the board is to do predictable “Bush is teh evil one!” drivebys wherever he goes. He’s hardly in a position to cast a first stone at anyone. In any case, **Moto** is a considerate and thoughtful poster who contributes his ideas at the SDMB. However, those ideas being conservative ones, he’s bound to get piled on and pitted from time to time. I for one and glad he’s got thick enough skin to stick around. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797/20 "2005-07-29T20:36:30Z")
> [@Scott Plaid](#): > > Does the word _hyperbole_ mean **anything** to you? This, from the master debater himself… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-official-mr-moto-is-a-clueless-right-wing-republican-shill-thread/314797.md?page=2)