# The oldest gay men I've ever seen **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 27, 2006, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043 "2006-10-27T00:16:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043/21 "2006-10-27T17:55:37Z")
All over the world there are and always have been elderly spinster Aunts who are quietly sharing their house with their life-long friend - “to save money”. The newspapers often report on the death of old war heroes - “He never married”. I’m thinking that someone who is familiar with the rich spectrum of human sexuality should not be too surprised that the sexuality in question is a lifelong thing. ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043/22 "2006-10-27T18:17:58Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] Heck, you want to see REALLY old gay men, just look up Quentin Crisp… [/QUOTE] Of course, it won’t be easy to find him in his entirety. As [this page](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quentin_Crisp) states: > [@](#): > > Crisp died shortly before his ninety-first birthday in Chorlton-cum-Hardy, Greater Manchester, on the eve of a nationwide revival of his one-man show. His body was cremated with a minimum of ceremony, and his ashes flown back to New York and scattered over Manhattan. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043/23 "2006-10-27T20:32:35Z")
I take it the OP has seen any of the X-Men movies? Or Lord of the Rings? ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043/24 "2006-10-27T20:42:44Z")
[QUOTE=Mesquite-oh] it was a little easier to identify at least a few lesbians and couples amongst the bingo crowd. They would have masculine haircuts and wear manly clothes, drink lots o’ beer, crack jokes loudly, and generally not be afraid to bring attention to themselves. [/QUOTE] I gotta tell ya, I was passing thru the Bucknell University campus a week or so ago, and stopped into a local restaurant/bar. I was seated near a table of about 12 faculty and/or grad students…_every last friggn one of them but one_ drinking wine or booze. Where was the one and only beer glass? In front of the archetypal broad-beamed, crew-cut, muu-muu-and-wooden beads women’s studies professor. ---
**Author:** ![Ignatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3be4f8/32.png) [@Ignatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ignatz)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043/25 "2006-10-27T22:25:08Z")
[QUOTE=Argent Towers] One of them was wearing an Abercrombie and Fitch sweatshirt under his leather jacket, which I took to be quite odd. Then the man sitting across from me crossed his legs, one over the other. Man, life never stops being interesting. [/QUOTE] I’m trying to convince my lady to change the wording on one of her A & F shirts to read ABERCROMFIE AND BITCH so I can wear it but she refuses to and says she would never go out in public with me if I wore it. Now listen up everybody: Every sitting man who ever crosses his legs, one over the other, is GAY! No exceptions. Also, those who wear cologne. BE ON YOUR GUARD, or the lookout, whatever floats your boat. ---
**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043/26 "2006-10-27T22:44:56Z")
[QUOTE=picunurse] Oh grow up! I’ve had gay friends my whole life. I’m 60. Do you think when hair turns white or falls out, they turn straight? [/QUOTE] You mean I’m like this for life??? Oh well, guess I best hang on to da squeeze then. He ain’t any more likely to change than me, I guess. > [@jayjay](#): > > Yes, despite the heroic efforts of the klub kid/twink crowd to pretend they don’t exist, there ARE older gay men. In the bear subculture, they’re fairly common and actually pretty desirable. Daddies are always in amongst the bears. I’m waiting impatiently to get a bit more grizzled so I can have all the young cubbies running to me! Come to papa big boy. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043/27 "2006-10-27T23:44:05Z")
The extended period of responsible adulthood beforehand I’m not so sure about, but I’m quite looking forward to my old queen years. My family never loses their faculties - all of my grandparents lived or have lived to their 80s sharp as a tack - so I plan to be around quite some time to irritate everyone. I plan to surround myself with adoring young muffins to hear my war stories from back before there was a cure and when there were still such a thing as fundamentalists. In gratitude they will do all my housework stripped to the waist. There will be tea and scones in the sunroom afterward. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043/28 "2006-10-27T23:51:05Z")
[QUOTE=matt\_mcl] There will be tea and scones in the sunroom afterward. [/QUOTE] Must be one of those Canadian euphemisms… ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043/29 "2006-10-27T23:52:08Z")
[QUOTE=swampbear] Come to papa big boy. 😉 [/QUOTE] Heh. If it weren’t for your Significant Acronym and the four states between us, I’d take you up on that offer, for a weekend anyway… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043/30 "2006-10-27T23:59:16Z")
[QUOTE=matt\_mcl] I plan to surround myself with adoring young muffins to hear my war stories from back before there was a cure and when there were still such a thing as fundamentalists. [/QUOTE] I was going to say you were being too optimistic, and then I noticed that your location wasn’t in America. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043/31 "2006-10-28T00:21:14Z")
[QUOTE=Ignatz] Now listen up everybody: Every sitting man who ever crosses his legs, one over the other, is GAY! [/QUOTE] Is there some way of crossing you legs that DOESN’T involve putting one over the other? I’ve heard it asserted that _playing the organ_ –the PIPE organ, ok? – contributes to gayitude. Supposedly you need to have your thighs pressed together to work the pedals properly. ---
**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043/32 "2006-10-28T00:32:21Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] Heh. If it weren’t for your Significant Acronym and the four states between us, I’d take you up on that offer, for a weekend anyway… 😉 [/QUOTE] Well, big guy, who’s sayin’ the Significant Acronym (I love it!) and I wouldn’t make it a weekend you’d never forget? 😉 Shamless flirting in a MPSIMS thread. What is this world coming to! ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043/33 "2006-10-28T00:38:03Z")
Maybe this isn’t exactly crossing the legs, but most guys sit with one leg down and the other laid over it at a 90 degree angle. This is a horribly uninformative and confusing description of the posture that I’m referring to, but you’d know it if you saw it. Let me see if I can find an image… OKAY - complete change of subject, but I need to say this. I did a [Google image search](http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=sitting&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-501&x=wrt) for the word “sitting” - and the very second image displayed is of an attractive woman sitting naked on a bed with a sheet obscuring her…naughty areas. The url? **[gallery.opalcat.com/gallery](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery)**. (Might not be safe for work, although no explicit parts are shown.) Is this the **OpalCat** of the SDMB? I can’t see there being another one. If so - you’re hot. Sorry to take a very straight detour here. Carry on with “teh gay.” About the pipe organ - I have a '70s vintage Kimball Entertainer electronic organ, which I sometimes play, and I don’t find that keeping your thighs pressed together is beneficial to being able to reach the full range of foot pedals. So I call BS on the assertion that it makes you gay, simply beacause that doesn’t sound like the proper playing procedure to me. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043/34 "2006-10-28T00:39:23Z")
Oh, sorry, it was a Yahoo image search. My bad. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043/35 "2006-10-28T01:06:26Z")
That’s our **Opal** , all right. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043/36 "2006-10-28T01:08:27Z")
[QUOTE=swampbear] Shamless flirting in a MPSIMS thread. What is this world coming to! [/QUOTE] Business as usual, then… Seriously, if **supervenusfreak** and I are ever down that way again (we had a 45-minute stop at Atlanta-Hartfield when we were on our way to Houston in September), we’re going to HAVE to get together for dinner, at least. ---
**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043/37 "2006-10-28T01:16:56Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] Business as usual, then… Seriously, if **supervenusfreak** and I are ever down that way again (we had a 45-minute stop at Atlanta-Hartfield when we were on our way to Houston in September), we’re going to HAVE to get together for dinner, at least. [/QUOTE] At least! Course Etlanner’s still three hours from where I am, but for the right people… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043/38 "2006-10-28T01:23:32Z")
[QUOTE=pizzabrat] I love the idea of narrow-mined people who think they have it all figured out having their world spun around by the most mundane violations of the basest, (should be) self-destructively restrictive stereotypes. They always come off sounding like such fun-to-ridicule lame-o’s “Dude,I saw this Asian guy today with a _British accent_!” Thanks for the story. [/QUOTE] [How about a Korean guy with a southern accent.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I72NBDG81xg) ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043/39 "2006-10-28T01:30:10Z")
Am I alone in thinking that **pizzabrat’s** response to what I wrote is overly snippy, and personally insulting? ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043/40 "2006-10-28T01:46:25Z")
[QUOTE=Argent Towers] Am I alone in thinking that **pizzabrat’s** response to what I wrote is overly snippy, and personally insulting? [/QUOTE] This really needs to be one of those times where a grown man can appreciate that while most people might get the playful nature of his observation, that some people live to be offended, and just move on. She’s a brat after all, what do you expect? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oldest-gay-men-ive-ever-seen/378043.md?page=3)