# The Omen (spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omen-spoilers/359696>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 7, 2006, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omen-spoilers/359696 "2006-06-07T02:48:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2006, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omen-spoilers/359696/21 "2006-06-07T23:55:24Z")

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The little boy in the original scared the shit out of me as a kid. Then I saw this new kid and relived it…

Damn, but there’s some creepy kids skulking around…

Oh, and it looks startlingly like the original. I saw the preview with the nanny (“It’s all for you Damien!”) and I was like “Hey, that looks familiar, backyard party at a big house, is that the nanny, oh shit oh shit ohshitohshitohshit IT’S THE OMEN!!!”

😃

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omen-spoilers/359696/22 "2006-06-08T00:37:06Z")

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Speaking of the nanny, wouldn’t a fall from that height take your head right off?

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omen-spoilers/359696/23 "2006-06-08T07:44:39Z")

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[QUOTE=AuntiePam]  
Speaking of the nanny, wouldn’t a fall from that height take your head right off?  
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IANAphysicist and this is a WAG, and I haven’t seen the movies (either of them), but I’m not sure.

Her spine would definitely snap from the impact, but there’s still cartilage, muscle, skin, tissues, etc. holding her head to her body. Unless there’s some serious rope burn going on, her head would still be attached, albeit at a right angle to her spinal column.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omen-spoilers/359696/24 "2006-06-08T10:26:55Z")

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Is there still the scene where the photographer is decapitated by a sheet of glass flying from the back of a truck ? That was one of my all time favorite death scenes.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omen-spoilers/359696/25 "2006-06-08T14:55:56Z")

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[QUOTE=BobLibDem]  
Is there still the scene where the photographer is decapitated by a sheet of glass flying from the back of a truck ? That was one of my all time favorite death scenes.  
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Not exactly:

In this one, the photographer is gruesomely decapitated by a falling metal store sign. It was very gory.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omen-spoilers/359696/26 "2006-06-16T16:37:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Cunctator]  
Is there still that scene where Damien’s father is searching all over Damien’s body for “the sign” and he finds:the number 666 on Damien’s scalp under his hair?I thought that was really scary when I saw the original film.  
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Why is that? How does it happen that some people – not just Damien, but Father Brennan and, it is implied, many others – are born with the 666 birthmark? I don’t recall that being explained in the original or any of the sequels.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omen-spoilers/359696/27 "2006-06-16T16:42:36Z")

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[QUOTE=FriarTed]  
Second- the beginning starts with an added scene of a priest in the Vatican Observatory discovering a triple comet, preparing a report on the End-Times signs & presenting it to the Pope & his select council of Cardinals. So far so good, except Revelation 8-9 is horribly misquoted. That just set the movie on a bad foot forward for me.  
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And then **nothing happens!** WRT the Vatican, I mean. As far as we can see, the pope and the Church play no role at all in, and never become aware of, the unfolding events of the film. (Father Brennan gets involved, but, it is implied, as a rogue, without his superiors’ knowledge.) They might just as well have cut that part entirely.

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omen-spoilers/359696/28 "2006-06-16T16:43:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Electronic Chaos]  
I’d rather watch a horror movie actually rely on horror to scare you, not “Boo! Here’s a dog!”  
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I’m guessing you didn’t like Cujo.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omen-spoilers/359696/29 "2006-06-16T16:44:27Z")

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[QUOTE=stpauler]  
If you’re going to nitpick that, why not nitpick the 666 vs 616? (Talked about [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=341641) and [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=347652) too)  
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And, either way, wouldn’t it make more sense to have the number represented by Greek or Hebrew letters? Arabic numerals were unknown in Europe when the Book of Revelation was written.

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**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omen-spoilers/359696/30 "2006-06-16T20:21:37Z")

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[QUOTE=AuntiePam]  
Speaking of the nanny, wouldn’t a fall from that height take your head right off?  
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Most likely. There really isn’t much room between “snap the neck” and “pop the head off.”

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omen-spoilers/359696/31 "2006-06-16T20:36:18Z")

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[QUOTE=AuntiePam]  
Speaking of the nanny, wouldn’t a fall from that height take your head right off?  
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What matters is not the height of the jumping-off point but the length of the rope.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omen-spoilers/359696/32 "2006-06-16T21:03:08Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]

And, either way, wouldn’t it make more sense to have the number represented by Greek or Hebrew letters? Arabic numerals were unknown in Europe when the Book of Revelation was written.

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Satan just assumed his apostles would be more familier with Arabic numerals than Greek or Roman.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omen-spoilers/359696/33 "2006-06-16T22:16:46Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]

Why is that? How does it happen that some people – not just Damien, but Father Brennan and, it is implied, many others – are born with the 666 birthmark? I don’t recall that being explained in the original or any of the sequels.

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I think that only Damien was born with the 666. It grew on those who  
were his disciples. I seem to recall in the novel if not the film of THE FINAL CONFLICT: Omen III that one of his disciples rejoices to see that he finally  
was honored to be granted the 666 when it appeared on him.

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