# The omnibus 2008 college football thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 6, 2008, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369 "2008-09-06T18:27:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Rucksinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@Rucksinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rucksinator)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2008, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369/361 "2008-12-07T21:43:17Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > 2 things: > > 1. Aren’t you losing at least 3 crucial linemen? > > 2. If you don’t have 18 season-ending injuries (not counting the various other payers who missed multiple games), you’ll probably do better than UGA did this year. Andre Smith and Antoine Caldwell and who else? I counted 13 seniors on the roster. The names that jumped out at me (I don’t study this stuff as much as my brother does) were: Antoine Caldwell (OL), (definite loss) Rashad Johnson (DB), Nikita Stover (WR), (only played 5 games) Nick Walker (TE), (workhorse, but replacable) John Parker Wilson (QB), (made into an efficient QB by Saban and staff. Replacable) Amongst juniors we have Javier Arenas, Glen Coffee, Andre Smith, and Roy Upchurch. I don’t know how many will go pro, but I don’t think that Javier Arenas is big enough (5-9, 193). ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2008, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369/362 "2008-12-07T22:01:24Z")
> [@Influential\_Panda](#): > > I would love to see Bama vs Ohio State. Utah is simply not exciting. At all. I get some fun out of a team that is undefeated and thinks they have made the big step up, get their horns honked. ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2008, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369/363 "2008-12-07T23:51:19Z")
Ok so here are my predictions. Florida is #1 and Oklahoma is #2. Sugar Bowl: Alabama Fiesta: Texas Fiesta: Ohio State. Fiesta has to choose between Utah, Boise State and Ohio State, the next highest available BCS school. OSU travels well, which means Boise gets hosed. Sugar: Utah. It’s either Utah or Cincy, and Utah is the no brainer choice. Orange: Cincinnati. The Orange bowl gets hosed, and has a less glamorous match up than a few second tier bowls. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369/364 "2008-12-08T00:15:05Z")
> [@Rucksinator](#): > > Andre Smith and Antoine Caldwell and who else? Isn’t Cody eligible for the draft? ---
**Author:** ![Rucksinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@Rucksinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rucksinator)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369/365 "2008-12-08T02:43:35Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > Isn’t Cody eligible for the draft? According to [this](http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/teams/aad/roster) he’s a sophomore. I don’t know if that means red-shirt or not. Man I hope he doesn’t leave. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369/366 "2008-12-08T05:58:32Z")
I’ve heard (maybe from [Scout.com](http://Scout.com)?) that Cody has announced his intention to stay at Bama. Tough loss last night, but what a game, huh? Holy crap. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369/367 "2008-12-08T07:32:09Z")
Here’s the full schedule: Dec. 20, 11 a.m. - EagleBank Bowl: Wake Forest vs. Navy (ESPN) Dec. 20, 2:30 p.m. - New Mexico: Colorado State vs. Fresno State (ESPN) Dec. 20, 4:30 p.m. - magicJack St. Petersburg: Memphis vs. South Florida (ESPN2) Dec. 20, 8 p.m. - Pioneer Las Vegas: BYU vs. Arizona (ESPN) Dec. 21, 8:15 p.m. - R+L Carriers New Orleans: Southern Miss vs. Troy (ESPN) Dec. 23, 8 p.m. - San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia: Boise State vs. TCU (ESPN) Dec. 24, 8 p.m. - Sheraton Hawaii: Hawaii vs. Notre Dame (ESPN) Dec. 26, 8 p.m. - Motor City: At-large vs. Central Michigan (ESPN) Dec. 27, 1 p.m. - Meineke Car Care: West Virginia vs. North Carolina (ESPN) Dec. 27, 4:30 p.m. - Champs Sports: Wisconsin vs. Florida State (ESPN) Dec. 27, 8 p.m. - Emerald: Miami (Fla.) vs. California (ESPN) Dec. 28, 8:15 p.m. - Independence: At-large vs. Louisiana Tech (ESPN) Dec. 29, 3 p.m. - [Papajohns.com](http://Papajohns.com): NC State vs. Rutgers (ESPN) Dec. 29, 8 p.m. - Valero Alamo: Missouri vs. Northwestern (ESPN) Dec. 30, 4:30 p.m. - Roady’s Humanitarian: Maryland vs. Nevada (ESPN) Dec. 30, 8 p.m. - Texas: Rice vs. Western Michigan (NFL Network) Dec. 30, 8 p.m. - Pacific Life Holiday: Oklahoma State vs. Oregon (ESPN) Dec. 31, Noon - Bell Helicopter Armed Forces: Houston vs. Air Force (ESPN) Dec. 31, 2 p.m. - Brut Sun: Oregon State vs. Pittsburgh (CBS) Dec. 31, 3:30 p.m. - Gaylord Hotels Music City: Boston College vs. Vanderbilt (ESPN) Dec. 31, 5:30 p.m. - Insight: Kansas vs. Minnesota (NFL Network) Dec. 31, 7:30 p.m. - Chick-fil-A: LSU vs. Georgia Tech (ESPN) Jan. 1, 2009, 11 a.m. - Outback: South Carolina vs. Iowa (ESPN) Jan. 1, 2009, 1 p.m. - Capital One: Georgia vs. Michigan State (ABC) Jan. 1, 2009, 1 p.m. - Konica Minolta Gator: Clemson vs. Nebraska (CBS) Jan. 1, 2009, 4:30 p.m. - Rose Bowl Game Presented by Citi: Penn State vs. USC (ABC) Jan. 1, 2009, 8:30 p.m. - FedEx Orange: Virginia Tech vs. Cincinnati (FOX) Jan. 2, 2009, 2 p.m. - AT&T Cotton: Ole Miss vs. Texas Tech (FOX) Jan. 2, 2009, 5 p.m. - AutoZone Liberty: Kentucky vs. East Carolina (ESPN) Jan. 2, 2009, 8 p.m. - Allstate Sugar: Utah vs. Alabama (FOX) Jan. 3, 2009, Noon - International: Buffalo vs. Connecticut (ESPN2) Jan. 5, 2009, 8 p.m. - Tostitos Fiesta: Ohio State vs. Texas (FOX) Jan. 6, 2009, 8 p.m. - GMAC: Tulsa vs. MAC (ESPN) Jan. 8, 2009, 8 p.m. - FedEx BCS National Championship Game: Florida vs. Oklahoma (FOX ) ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369/368 "2008-12-08T12:52:00Z")
This is why I hate the BCS / current Bowl set up (and I say this as a Gator alum, so it’s hardly sour grapes). Ball State had a fantastic season, losing only once, to a fired up Buffalo. Now they don’t get into a bowl at all. Meanwhile several SEC teams that scarcely deserve to be in a bowl end up at pretty big bowl games: Kentucky, LSU, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Alabama, Georgia and Vanderbilt all made bowl games (did I miss any?). I’d quickly sacrifice one of those to see Ball State get a game. USF (South Florida), my other alma mater, also got a bowl game, albeit a weak, local game, but Ball State is way more deserving, as probably are several other schools. I love the Bulls but they played like warm piss for most of the season. It’s just kind of ludicrous. ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369/369 "2008-12-08T13:35:40Z")
Texas wuz robbed. ---
**Author:** ![Rucksinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@Rucksinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rucksinator)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369/370 "2008-12-08T14:33:24Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > This is why I hate the BCS / current Bowl set up (and I say this as a Gator alum, so it’s hardly sour grapes). Ball State had a fantastic season, losing only once, to a fired up Buffalo. Now they don’t get into a bowl at all. Meanwhile several SEC teams that scarcely deserve to be in a bowl end up at pretty big bowl games: Kentucky, LSU, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Alabama, Georgia and Vanderbilt all made bowl games (did I miss any?). I’d quickly sacrifice one of those to see Ball State get a game. USF (South Florida), my other alma mater, also got a bowl game, albeit a weak, local game, but Ball State is way more deserving, as probably are several other schools. I love the Bulls but they played like warm piss for most of the season. It’s just kind of ludicrous. Since I found it hard to believe that a 12-1 team wouldn’t get a bowl game, I looked it up. According to [here](http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=885360) : GMAC (Jan. 6, 8 p.m., ESPN) The Site: Mobile, Ala. The Matchup: Tulsa vs. Ball State Not only a bowl game, but a JANUARY bowl game. That’s huge. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369/371 "2008-12-08T14:49:31Z")
> [@Sigmagirl](#): > > Texas wuz robbed. True. They should be playing Utah in the Fiesta Bowl, not tOSU. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@The\_Tof](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tof)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369/372 "2008-12-08T15:08:11Z")
Is it just me or does that Oklahoma State v. Oregon Holiday bowl seem to have a lot of potential. Just after a quick glance that looks like it may be a fun game to watch. ---
**Author:** ![Rucksinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@Rucksinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rucksinator)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369/373 "2008-12-08T15:59:04Z")
> [@KRM](#): > > True. They should be playing Utah in the Fiesta Bowl, not tOSU. BUT, the \*Sugar Bowl \*is where undefeated, small conference teams go to die. Moving back to an old topic… I’m starting to come around on the CCG vs. playing everyone debate. I was looking at the SEC, which had the good fortune of having one dominant team in each division that hadn’t played each other in the regular season. That made for a great CCG. But that’s not going to happen very often. Looking at the Big 12, that CCG meant nothing, and was only worth paying attention to to see if there was an upset. So maybe in a 12-team conference every team could play every other team every year, and still have 1 non-conference game. Maybe then we could replace those CCGs with some inter-conference championship games. Like the SEC champ vs. the WAC champ in early December. (We can’t have big-6 CCs playing each other before January. That would take away from the major bowl games.) ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369/374 "2008-12-08T18:29:05Z")
> [@The\_Tof](#): > > Is it just me or does that Oklahoma State v. Oregon Holiday bowl seem to have a lot of potential. Just after a quick glance that looks like it may be a fun game to watch. Should be a good one. I am really hoping the family makes a road trip out there. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369/375 "2008-12-08T19:00:25Z")
> [@Darth\_Sensitive](#): > > Should be a good one. I am really hoping the family makes a road trip out there. As a loyal Sooner, I have a hard-and-fast rule about never rooting for Oklahoma State. I am granting myself an exception in this case. Just pray that you don’t have a Pac-10 officiating crew. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369/376 "2008-12-08T19:20:28Z")
> [@Rucksinator](#): > > Since I found it hard to believe that a 12-1 team wouldn’t get a bowl game, I looked it up. According to [here](http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=885360) : > > GMAC (Jan. 6, 8 p.m., ESPN) > The Site: Mobile, Ala. > The Matchup: Tulsa vs. Ball State > > Not only a bowl game, but a JANUARY bowl game. That’s huge. 😉 I missed it in the original all-encompassing listing since the GMAC bowl just said “MAC”. I was scanning for Ball State. Sort of seems like a fixed game when the GMAC has MAC rep. Anyway, I’m extremely happy that they got a bowl game, although I think they may have deserved a better one. Maybe we should start a thread (or sub topic) on what the best possible bowl match ups would have been OR how we would see a 8, 16 or even 32 team play off series. ---
**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369/377 "2008-12-09T08:07:19Z")
> [@The\_Tof](#): > > Is it just me or does that Oklahoma State v. Oregon Holiday bowl seem to have a lot of potential. Just after a quick glance that looks like it may be a fun game to watch. Depends which Beavs team shows up. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Rucksinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@Rucksinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rucksinator)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369/378 "2008-12-09T14:50:50Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > … Sort of seems like a fixed game when the GMAC has MAC rep… I believe that Hawaii often plays in the Hawaii Bowl. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369/379 "2008-12-09T14:56:47Z")
For the record, it’s Oregon (Ducks) vs Oklahoma State in the Holiday Bowl. The Oregon State Beavers are playing Pitt in the Sun Bowl. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-2008-college-football-thread/462369/380 "2008-12-09T18:45:57Z")
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