# The Omnibus "Religious Leaders Being Fucking Awful" Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 6, 2019, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108 "2019-06-06T03:26:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108/1 "2019-06-06T03:26:15Z")
I don’t like religion. I grew up Catholic, and even for a while after I stopped believing in God, I still had a bit of a soft spot for my old community. That’s pretty much all long gone now. Fuck religion. I mostly criticize Christianity because that’s what I’m most familiar with, and because self-professed Christians are the ones doing the most damage in our country these days. I tend not to bitch about Islam or Judaism because I don’t want people to think I’m a Trump supporter. But, really, fuck all religion. So this is my attempt at an Omnibus thread. How bad is religion? Let us count the ways! To keep this thread to a manageable length, and to avoid the fate of the “Stupid Liberal Idea of the Day” thread, I ask that we keep our examples limited to actions of clergy and other religious officials and leaders. Some Bible thumping politician is caught with a prostitute, put it in SRIOTD. A Catholic bishop is caught with a prostitute, now we’re talking! To get things started on the right foot, I give you West Virginia bishop Michael Bransfield: > [@](#): > > In the years before he was ousted for alleged sexual harassment and financial abuses, the leader of the Catholic Church in West Virginia gave cash gifts totaling $350,000 to fellow clergymen, including young priests he is accused of mistreating and more than a dozen cardinals in the United States and at the Vatican, according to church records obtained by The Washington Post. > > Bishop Michael J. Bransfield wrote the checks from his personal account over more than a decade, and the West Virginia diocese reimbursed him by boosting his compensation to cover the value of the gifts, the records show. As a tax-exempt nonprofit, the diocese must use its money only for charitable purposes. > > \ > > During his 13 years as bishop in West Virginia, one of the poorest states in the nation, Bransfield spent $2.4 million in church money on travel, much of it personal, which included flying in chartered jets and staying in luxury hotels, according to the report. Bransfield and several subordinates spent an average of nearly $1,000 a month on alcohol, it says. The West Virginia diocese paid $4.6 million to renovate Bransfield’s church residence after a fire damaged a single bathroom. When Bransfield was in the chancery, an administrative building, fresh flowers were delivered daily, at a cost of about $100 a day — almost $182,000 in all. > > Bransfield, 75, drew on a source of revenue that many parishioners knew little about, oil-rich land in Texas donated to the diocese more than a century ago. He spoke of church money as if it were his to spend without restriction, according to the report. > > \ > > Bransfield wrote at least 565 checks that were recorded as “gifts” and made out to the clerics by name. The documents obtained by The Post do not make clear why Bransfield gave the gifts, though the recipients of the largest amounts were among the most influential members of the Catholic Church, clerics whose opinions carry weight with the Vatican. > > \ > > The roots of the West Virginia diocese’s unusual wealth date back to the late 1800s, to a friendship struck on a transatlantic cruise ship between a bishop from Wheeling and a New York heiress. When she died in 1904, Sara Catherine Aloysia Tracy left the majority of her estate to the diocese, including a large tract of land in west Texas. Oil was discovered there decades later. > > The income from the mineral rights generates annual revenue averaging nearly $15 million in recent years and has funded an endowment now valued at $230 million, according to financial documents. > > \ > > Three months into his time in West Virginia, documents show, Bransfield began dipping into the diocese’s fortune, sending to some clerics what would be the first of many checks. > **[W.Va. bishop gave powerful cardinals and other priests $350,000 in cash gifts...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/a-wva-bishop-spent-millions-on-himself-and-sent-cash-gifts-to-cardinals-and-to-young-priests-he-was-accused-of-mistreating-confidential-vatican-report-says/2019/06/05/98af7ae6-7686-11e9-b3f5-5673edf2d127_story.html)** > > In the years before he was removed from ministry for alleged sexual harassment and financial abuses, Bishop Michael Bransfield was reimbursed by the church for cash gifts he gave to fellow clergymen, records show. It’s a long article, but it’s a cracking good read. Sexual harassment, influence peddling, embezzlement, this story has it all! Bishop Michael J. Bransfield, you win the inaugural Religious Fuckhead of the Day Award! Well done! ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108/2 "2019-06-06T13:21:36Z")
Are we sticking to just one Religious Fuckhead per day? After all, this is Pride Month, which seems to bring the Religious Fuckheads out in droves. Take [Bishop Thomas Tobin](https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/06/01/providence-bishop-faces-backlash-for-homophobic-tweet/jZojkSukKqJnLjpD720bNL/story.html) as an example: > [@](#): > > “A reminder that Catholics should not support or attend LGBTQ ‘Pride Month’ events held in June. They promote a culture and encourage activities that are contrary to Catholic faith and morals. They are especially harmful for children.” Wonder if the bishop would be open to discussing organizations that really do harm children? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108/3 "2019-06-06T13:31:30Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > Are we sticking to just one Religious Fuckhead per day? Not at all! There are plenty of awards to go around! > [@](#): > > Wonder if the bishop would be open to discussing organizations that really do harm children? Smart money is on “No”. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108/4 "2019-06-06T13:48:25Z")
Here is the recent thread about Kenneth Copeland: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=876469](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=876469) People willingly give this nutball their money. There is a saying about a fool and their money that seems applicable here. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108/5 "2019-06-06T14:04:15Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > Are we sticking to just one Religious Fuckhead per day? After all, this is Pride Month, which seems to bring the Religious Fuckheads out in droves. Take [Bishop Thomas Tobin](https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/06/01/providence-bishop-faces-backlash-for-homophobic-tweet/jZojkSukKqJnLjpD720bNL/story.html) as an example: > > Wonder if the bishop would be open to discussing organizations that really do harm children? I saw a clever and well deserved Twitter response to Tobin’s tweet that said: “You know what’s even more harmful to children? Fucking them.” ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108/6 "2019-06-06T15:09:25Z")
Well, there’s this: [Southern Baptist churches welcomed sex offenders](https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Abuse-of-Faith-Southern-Baptist-churches-13912529.php) Part 5 of 6, fer crissakes. > [@](#): > > The Houston Chronicle confirmed that since the 1990s, at least 30 SBC churches were aware that a pastor, employee or volunteer had faced allegations of sexual misconduct in the U.S. — yet the churches hired them anyway or allowed them to continue serving in their spiritual roles. > [@](#): > > Last year, Garcia reached an agreement with prosecutors in Hays County and pleaded guilty to a charge of enticing a child with intent to commit a felony. He was sentenced to 10 years deferred adjudication, a type of probation. > > As part of the terms of the plea deal, Garcia didn’t have to register as a sex offender, but he was barred from being near children without supervision, except for his grandchildren. He currently serves as the church’s music minister. > > “If you want a close relationship with Jesus Christ, study his word,” Garcia told the congregation at Betania at a recent worship service. “You’ll learn a lot more about him.” Last year! With all we know about sexual predators, he gets a plea where he serves no time and can still hide the fact that he is a predator. > [@](#): > > Valdez was a married middle school principal in the West Texas town of Sonora when he was arrested in October 2009 on charges of having an improper sexual relationship with a 17-year-old high school student and taking sexually explicit photographs of her. > > Valdez, who pleaded guilty to the charges but served no time in prison, said he and his wife reconciled and started a Christian counseling service for troubled couples. Last year, they founded New Spirit Church in a strip mall on Culebra Road near Fast Eddie’s Billiards. Yes, that’s who you want counseling you on your marriage. A sex offender and the idiot who stood by him. > [@](#): > > James Cantor, a Canadian psychologist and expert on pedophilia and sexual behavior, said it’s important to remember that there are different types of sexual abusers. For people who suffer from pedophilia — a sexual attraction toward prepubescent children — there is no known cure. > > “Nobody has ever shown a meaningful way to turn a pedophile into a non-pedophile,” Cantor said. But he emphasized that many of his patients don’t want to hurt children, and they make a deliberate effort to avoid situations where they’re alone with them. > > **Cantor said it’s a red flag if a pedophile claims to have changed and wants to work with children.** I’ve changed! I now know that molesting kids is wrong and would never do it _again_. Can I work with kids, please? > [@](#): > > Experts say it’s commendable that churches give people a second chance. But giving accused sexual abusers a church role as spiritual leaders puts children at risk. “Once they’ve committed a crime of that nature, they should not work in any capacity around children,” I believe in forgiveness and rehabilitation but…Duh. I mean, once someone embezzles, you can forgive them but you don’t hire them to do your books. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108/7 "2019-06-06T15:18:56Z")
I don’t really care for religion of any kind, but the most obnoxious are the Abrahamic religions, fighting over a holy city and a bunch of mythological bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108/8 "2019-06-06T15:37:23Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Well, there’s this:… > > > [@](#): > > > > **Cantor said it’s a red flag if a pedophile claims to have changed and wants to work with children.** > > > > Experts say it’s commendable that churches give people a second chance. But giving accused sexual abusers a church role as spiritual leaders puts children at risk. “Once they’ve committed a crime of that nature, they should not work in any capacity around children,” Yes, surely the Catholic Church can bear no responsibility for continuing to endanger children from known pedophiles, because it took a psychologist and expert on pedophilia to realize this. How could they possibly have known? Similarly, if a bear claims that it now only shits in the rest room, it takes a professional biologist to know that it’s a red flag if we see the bear squatting down in the woods with a roll of toilet paper. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108/9 "2019-06-06T16:45:11Z")
> [@Bishop Thomas Tobin](#): > > A reminder that Catholics should not support or attend LGBTQ ‘Pride Month’ events held in June. They promote a culture and encourage activities that are contrary to Catholic faith and morals. _They are especially harmful for children._ Irony is dead, an I’m not expecting it to rise on the third day. > [@](#): > > Last year, Garcia reached an agreement with prosecutors in Hays County and pleaded guilty to a charge of enticing a child with intent to commit a felony. He was sentenced to 10 years deferred adjudication, a type of probation. > > As part of the terms of the plea deal, Garcia didn’t have to register as a sex offender, but he was barred from being near children without supervision, except for his grandchildren. He currently serves as the church’s music minister. > > “If you want a close relationship with Jesus Christ, study his word,” Garcia told the congregation at Betania at a recent worship service. I think Jesus mentioned something reminiscent of a Hemingway title – something about “a millstone” and “the sea”… ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108/10 "2019-06-06T17:19:11Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I don’t really care for religion of any kind, but the most obnoxious are the Abrahamic religions, fighting over a holy city and a bunch of mythological bullshit. They’re really fighting political wars, over territory whose borders were drawn by the British and Ottoman Empires. Religion is less of a part of it than people think. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108/11 "2019-06-06T17:19:33Z")
Direct quote from a Catholic I discussed this with: They were not priests. They were homosexuals masquerading as priest. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108/12 "2019-06-06T18:39:30Z")
You guys are all picking on the Catholic Church pedophile priests. What about the Catholic Church embezzling priests? They deserve equal time! I give you [Fr. John Wehrle.](https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/2019/03/13/jonathan-wehrle-embezzlement-catholic-diocese-of-lansing/3102461002/) Stole $5 million from his parish over several years. Built a seven-bedroom mansion with a swimming pool and wine cellar. Had rolls of bills in the ceiling marked “For St. Martha’s parish, deposit only.” And had the gall (I remember, because I was a parishioner) to continually ask the congregation for more donations to fund building improvements and parking lot repairs; and to berate us if we didn’t come through to his satisfaction. While he was stealing church funds to build his mansion. Screw him, and send his arrogant thieving ass to prison. The current bishop is livid with him, and claims he didn’t know anything about Fr. Jon’s elaborate residence. But he should have known. That’s part of his job as head of the diocese, to know what his priests are doing. Screw him too. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108/13 "2019-06-06T18:51:03Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I don’t really care for religion of any kind, but the most obnoxious are the Abrahamic religions, fighting over a holy city and a bunch of mythological bullshit. You’re not wrong, but I offer Modi’s Hindu-supremacy politics in India right now and the brutality of the Buddhist government in Myanmar as counterpoints. And remember that the Khmer Rouge and Pol Pot came up from an almost entirely Buddhist Cambodian culture. Most religions are crappy, period. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108/14 "2019-06-06T18:53:24Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > You guys are all picking on the Catholic Church pedophile priests. What about the Catholic Church embezzling priests? They deserve equal time! “Por que no los dos?” as the little girl says in the taco commercial… ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108/15 "2019-06-06T19:22:54Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Direct quote from a Catholic I discussed this with: They were not priests. They were homosexuals masquerading as priest. There is a grain of truth in that. I would change it to ‘predators masquerading as priest’ as it seems impossible to believe the tenets of that religion and still use your position to molest children. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108/16 "2019-06-06T19:31:04Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > There is a grain of truth in that. I would change it to ‘predators masquerading as priest’ as it seems impossible to believe the tenets of that religion and still use your position to molest children. Well, it’s equally hard to reconcile the no-condom doctrine that has cost many thousands of lives with Jesus’ teachings of compassion. So I think you may have succeeded in proving that the Pope is not a Catholic. He is just masquerading as one. > **[Catholic Church and HIV/AIDS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_HIV/AIDS)** > > The Catholic Church is a major provider of medical care to HIV/AIDS patients. Much of its work takes place in developing countries, although it has also had a presence in the global north. Its opposition to condoms, despite their effectiveness in preventing the spread of HIV, has invited criticism from public health officials and anti-AIDS activists. > The Catholic Church's opposition to contraception includes a prohibition on condoms. It believes that chastity should be the primary means of preve... ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108/17 "2019-06-06T20:34:09Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Direct quote from a Catholic I discussed this with: They were not priests. They were homosexuals masquerading as priest. If you ever discuss the issue with this person again, ask if the absolutions that they gave and the transubstantiations they offered were retroactively invalidated and need to be done over (also weddings, baptisms, and Last Rites). I know what Cecil’s answer would be, [based on his article concerning popes who had illegitimate offspring](https://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/432/was-there-once-a-female-pope/), but I don’t view this person as deserving of the gimme. ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108/18 "2019-06-06T21:11:00Z")
How about a Catholic school principal who takes some of the children in his school on a field trip, and while they are sleeping, decides to demonstrate exemplary Christian behavior to his wards by going out to a strip club, getting drunk, refusing to pay his bill, fighting with police, and getting arrested? [https://abc7chicago.com/catholic-school-principal-arrested-at-strip-club-while-on-field-trip/5327951/](https://abc7chicago.com/catholic-school-principal-arrested-at-strip-club-while-on-field-trip/5327951/) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108/19 "2019-06-06T21:13:13Z")
A smallish thing. Unless you’re a Catholic who wants to receive communion. “[llinois House](https://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/politics-government/illinois-house-of-representatives-ORGOVV00035-topic.html) Speaker [Michael Madigan](https://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/politics-government/government/michael-madigan-PEPLT007464-topic.html) and [Senate](https://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/politics-government/government/u.s.-senate-ORGOV0000134-topic.html) President [John Cullerton](https://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/politics-government/john-cullerton-PEPLT001435-topic.html) have been banned from receiving communion in Springfield-area churches because of their support [for legislation that expands abortion access](https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-met-illinois-abortion-legislation-senate-20190531-story.html).The decree barring Illinois’ two highest-ranking lawmakers — both Catholic [Democrats](https://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/politics-government/democratic-party-ORGOV0000005-topic.html) from Chicago — from taking the sacrament was issued by Thomas Paprocki, bishop of the Springfield Diocese, less than a week after an abortion rights bill won final approval in the legislature and was sent to Gov. J.B. Pritzker.” > **[Catholic bishop in Springfield: No communion for Madigan, Cullerton for...](https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-met-catholic-church-sanctions-illinois-lawmakers-mike-madigan-20190605-story.html)** > > Springfield Catholic's bishop has issued a decree barring Illinois' top two lawmakers from receiving communion because they backed an abortion rights bill. I got yer separation of church and state right here, you hypocrite bastard. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108/20 "2019-06-06T21:24:51Z")
And another thing, a warning to Catholics: The next time you’re standing in front of your local child molester, and you’re expecting him to hand you a wafer, make sure he doesn’t know that you support a woman’s right to choose! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-religious-leaders-being-fucking-awful-thread/835108.md?page=2)