# The Omnibus Republican Snowflake Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 12, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786 "2017-06-12T17:27:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786/101 "2017-06-20T05:36:10Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …He’s a taekwondo instructor…

That explains it! For years now, after a Clotty exposure, I had the urge to re-watch that movie scene where Bruce Lee beats the snot out of Chuck Norris. Never fails to cheer me up when Bruce tears out a chunk of Chucky Cheese’s chest hair!

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786/102 "2017-06-20T12:09:03Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> [A golden oldie](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5zH7HvWUAE9cZM.jpg): Mike Pence being victimized by _Mulan_.

This is real?

This is real, isn’t it? ☹

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786/103 "2017-06-20T12:55:25Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> This is real?
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> This is real, isn’t it? ☹

It was in the [Twitter feed of Stephen Elliot](https://twitter.com/ElliottStephenB/status/836763460591566848), a reporter for the Nashville Post, so I’m assuming it’s real. (I saw it in the Twitter feed of [Matt Fuller](https://twitter.com/MEPFuller), who I follow because he’s a good source on the politics of health care.)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786/104 "2017-06-20T13:26:55Z")

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Am I reading that right? Is he saying that the Tailhook scandal was all the fault of the women?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786/105 "2017-06-20T13:40:38Z")

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I think he said it’s the fault of the people who put women in with the men, knowing that men just can’t control themselves. He may have been sincere, too - he can’t trust \*himself \*in a room alone with a woman other than his wife.

He did say women can’t be effective in military roles, so he also would be surprised to learn about Joan of Arc. Maybe Tammy Duckworth can tell him about her.

But he’d still be a better President than Trump, huh?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786/106 "2017-06-20T13:43:53Z")

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I like how he calls Mulan “delicate” more than once. One assumes he was unaware the character is a Disneyfied version of a [legendary Chinese warrior woman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hua_Mulan) from roughly 1500 years ago:

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> In the [Ballad of Mulan], Hua Mulan takes her aged father’s place in the army. She was a beautiful woman who was very strong, and was known for practicing martial arts such as kung fu and for being skilled with the sword. Mulan fought for twelve years and gained high merit, but she refused any reward and retired to her hometown instead.

“Delicate”, my ass.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786/107 "2017-06-20T14:43:32Z")

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Why does it not surprise me that the former governor of Indiana is less than well-schooled in the Chinese classics?

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786/108 "2017-06-20T18:24:28Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I like how he calls Mulan “delicate” more than once. One assumes he was unaware the character is a Disneyfied version of a [legendary Chinese warrior woman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hua_Mulan) from roughly 1500 years ago:“Delicate”, my ass.

I haven’t seen the movie, and I know little of chinese history, but I was aware that the character was based on a real life person. How closely disney follows the real life of that person is up in the air, of course.

The fact that Mike Pence can be bothered to write a diatribe on a movie, blaming it for any future issues with women in the military, while he can’t even be assed to google the name to see if any of the parts that “disney decided” were actually factual history… well, I would say that it’d lower my opinion of him, but that doesn’t seem very possible. I suppose really, it just makes me think that that is about par for the course for republicans in general these days.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786/109 "2017-06-21T09:43:49Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Why does it not surprise me that the former governor of Indiana is less than well-schooled in the Chinese classics?

He seems to be less than well-schooled in a number of basic concepts. I wouldn’t expect the governor of Indiana to have automatically known about the Chinese legend, but then I wouldn’t have expected the governor of Indiana to go off on an ignorance-laden misogynist rant about a children’s cartoon either.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786/110 "2017-06-21T10:19:21Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I haven’t seen the movie, and I know little of chinese history, but I was aware that the character was based on a real life person.

Probably not, actually. The earliest reference to her is a short poem from the 6th century, and it’s most likely that it wasn’t based on a real person, since that’s the _only_ reference, until it’s used as the basis for a play a couple centuries later.

But that doesn’t change that Disney’s Mulan is actually a lot _less_ of a badass than her inspiration (real or legendary), who lived as a (highly respected!) soldier for over a decade (before returning home and marrying a local man, not her commanding officer).

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786/111 "2017-06-21T14:57:15Z")

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Women who dress up as men and go into battle is part of _Spiritus Mundi_. The folklore and songs of nearly every nation have their own version of the story.

Some of them – like Mulan – are taking the place of an ill father or nonexistent brother; some are seeking to rescue a wounded lover; some are just major Badass.

Also, Pence is a dipshit.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786/112 "2017-06-21T15:28:23Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I wouldn’t have expected the governor of Indiana to go off on an ignorance-laden misogynist rant about a children’s cartoon either.

Have you ever \*been \*to Indiana?

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786/113 "2017-06-21T15:34:52Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Women who dress up as men and go into battle is part of _Spiritus Mundi_. The folklore and songs of nearly every nation have their own version of the story.

See Also: Terry Pratchett’s _Monstrous Regiment_.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786/114 "2017-06-21T16:37:02Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I haven’t seen the movie, and I know little of chinese history, but I was aware that the character was based on a real life person. How closely disney follows the real life of that person is up in the air, of course.

The movie Mulan is “Delicate,” I guess, in the sense that she is not a warrior and doesn’t demonstrate any sort of martial skill.

The same basic plot happens in both; the Emperor calls from one man from every family to repel an invading army, and Mulan surreptitiously replaces her father in part because he is old and weak. But in the movie, she has no fighting skills at first, and has to learn them in the film’s boot camp sequence while, in comical fashion, hiding the fact she’s a woman.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786/115 "2017-06-21T16:50:40Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> The movie Mulan is “Delicate,” I guess, in the sense that she is not a warrior and doesn’t demonstrate any sort of martial skill.
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> The same basic plot happens in both; the Emperor calls from one man from every family to repel an invading army, and Mulan surreptitiously replaces her father in part because he is old and weak. But in the movie, she has no fighting skills at first, and has to learn them in the film’s boot camp sequence while, in comical fashion, hiding the fact she’s a woman.

It’s worth noting that in the same sequence most of the men are similarly incompetent and gain their fighting skills as it progresses. That said, her main advantage in the film is her ability to think creatively, particularly when explosives are involved.

Anyway - how about them Republicans?

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786/116 "2017-06-21T17:01:01Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> It’s worth noting that in the same sequence most of the men are similarly incompetent and gain their fighting skills as it progresses. That said, her main advantage in the film is her ability to think creatively, particularly when explosives are involved.

Exackle. Using the weights to climb the pole; using the rocket to start the avalanche; using the fan to twist the sword away from the heavy; etc.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786/117 "2017-06-25T23:47:00Z")

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The latest in Republican/conservative pearl-clutching is that they’ve [all got the vapors](https://www.balloon-juice.com/2017/06/25/open-thread-vulgar-as-in-of-the-common-people/) over being called the ‘death party’ because the GOP [del]health care bill[/del] tax cut for the rich is going to cause tens of thousands of additional deaths each year.

Apparently killing people is A-OK, but if you make people feel bad about it, that’s _uncivil_.

And of course: Ramesh Ponnoru, _The Party of Death_, Regnery, 2006.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786/118 "2017-06-26T09:19:54Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> The latest in Republican/conservative pearl-clutching is that they’ve [all got the vapors](https://www.balloon-juice.com/2017/06/25/open-thread-vulgar-as-in-of-the-common-people/) over being called the ‘death party’ because the GOP [del]health care bill[/del] tax cut for the rich is going to cause tens of thousands of additional deaths each year.
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> Apparently killing people is A-OK, but if you make people feel bad about it, that’s _uncivil_.
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> And of course: Ramesh Ponnoru, _The Party of Death_, Regnery, 2006.

Loving this tweet:

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> [Death Star revealed]
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> LEIA: But millions will die
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> TARKIN: I’m open to thoughtful critiques of the Death Star. “Millions will die” is not it.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786/119 "2017-06-27T14:47:24Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> You laugh, but I knew someone who posted an article about a Muslim woman converting to Christianity, expressing skepticism about the authenticity of the woman’s Christianity because ‘‘she’s not from America.’’
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> That was the last time I knew her.

In the biblical sense? Because . . . ewww!

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-republican-snowflake-thread/788786/120 "2017-06-27T19:01:37Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> In the biblical sense? Because . . . ewww!

Eww x 2. Even if I were gay, I’d have better taste than that.

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