# The Omnibus Trump Pit Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 18, 2015, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543 "2015-07-18T20:15:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/1 "2015-07-18T20:15:24Z")
Trump says something Pittable nearly every day, but I don’t want the first page of the forum all cluttered, so really this is a public service. Yesterday, he said this about John McCain [(CNN)](http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/18/politics/donald-trump-john-mccain-war-hero/): > [@](#): > > “He is a war hero because he was captured,” Trump said, cutting him off. “I like people that weren’t captured, OK? I hate to tell you. He is a war hero because he was captured. OK, you can have – I believe perhaps he is a war hero.” AFAIK, this is the first incredibly dumb insulting thing that he is now backing off. He’s already released a statement saying that all prisoners are indeed heroes. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/2 "2015-07-18T20:29:11Z")
They took our jobs!! [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/FHNk0-7hW3U/hqdefault.jpg "Trump Speech - They took our jobs!!! South Park") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHNk0-7hW3U) ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/3 "2015-07-18T20:29:32Z")
As I might have mentioned in the other thread: We all know he is a racist piece of shit. Now we know if you remove “racist”, he’s still a piece of shit. This is coming from a Mrs. Lefty-Lovee Hugatree and an avowed McCain disdain-er. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/4 "2015-07-18T20:35:16Z")
Yeah, the thing that gets me about this is, it might be too much of an asshole statement for his **supporters** to stomach. Which is kind of a shame, because it might mean the Trump light will burn out too early this year, depriving us of our entertainment. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/5 "2015-07-18T23:18:25Z")
Andy Borowitz spot on satire of Trump at The New Yorker: > **[Trump Says He Heroically Avoided Capture in Vietnam by Staying in U.S.](https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-he-heroically-avoided-capture-in-vietnam-by-staying-in-u-s?intcid=mod-most-popular)** > > “The Cong were after me,” Donald Trump said, “and then, just in the nick of time, I got my deferment.” > [@](#): > > Presidential candidate Donald Trump revealed a little-known episode of personal heroism from his youth on Saturday, telling an Iowa audience that he narrowly avoided capture in Vietnam by remaining in the United States for the duration of the war. > > “The Cong were after me,” Trump said, visibly stirred by the memory. “And then, just in the nick of time, I got my deferment.” > [@](#): > > “Those brave Americans who, like me, avoided being captured by not serving at all—we are the true heroes,” he said. > > Trump’s tale of valor appeared to move many members of his audience, some of whom waited in line after his speech to thank him for his lack of service. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/6 "2015-07-18T23:23:52Z")
So we get Trump, the KKK, **Amateur Barbarian** , and **Elvis** as this week’s Grand Slam of omnibus assholes. This is gonna be a tough week to beat. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/7 "2015-07-18T23:43:32Z")
> [@FuriousGeorge](#): > > So we get Trump, the KKK, **Amateur Barbarian** , and **Elvis** as this week’s Grand Slam of omnibus assholes. This is gonna be a tough week to beat. One nit is that the \*\*Elvis \*\*thread turned to be mostly a reverse pit, pointing at \*\*Scumpup \*\* as an all thumbs asshole. ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/8 "2015-07-19T00:03:00Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > One nit is that the \*\*Elvis \*\*thread turned to be mostly a reverse pit, pointing at \*\*Scumpup \*\* as an all thumbs asshole. It’s a fair cop despite Elvis’ best effort to keep the pit on himself. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/9 "2015-07-19T01:05:07Z")
_Somebody’s_ doing the raping. Hey, Donald! It’s Bill Cosby! ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/10 "2015-07-19T03:16:27Z")
So…Trump bagged on McCain for getting captured by the VC! I used to have a lot of respect for McCain until he foisted Palin on us. Still, I have to take McCain’s side. Trump is a total POS, with no redeeming qualities. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/11 "2015-07-19T03:39:32Z")
As far as McCain goes, everyone has flaws and McCain’s flaw has always been his impulsiveness. It led him to fall in love with Palin(as a VP candidate of course) and not properly vet her. It also led to him crashing a lot of planes, although that doesn’t make him any less a hero, given that it’s not unusual for fighter pilots to be risk takers. Like any real world person, there’s a lot about him to respect and a lot to shake your head at. Overall for me, McCain is a war hero and a lifelong government reform advocate, and he’s never let his Republicanness get in the way of issues that mattered to him. He was loudly against the Bush administration on torture and war mismanagement and fought hard for campaign finance reform(also against the GOP’s wishes) and to end earmarks. We need more men like him in office. Now Donald Trump, the nice thing I’ll say about him is that he says what he believes, and I really wish all politicians would do that. His problem, and it’s a huge one, is that he’s got McCain’s impulsiveness minus his humility and thoughtfulness. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/12 "2015-07-19T03:48:53Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Now Donald Trump, the nice thing I’ll say about him is that he says what he believes, and I really wish all politicians would do that. His problem, and it’s a huge one, is that he’s got McCain’s impulsiveness minus his humility and thoughtfulness. No. His problem is **what he believes**. Give me a lying dishonest hypocrite who believes in justice and equality and freedom and will work for them, any day, over an honest fruitcake who believes the poisonous shit that occupies Trump’s head. Sincerity is a virtue, sure, but it only takes you so far. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/13 "2015-07-19T04:08:30Z")
I think it’s fascinating that politicians get credit for “saying what they believe” for no other reason than that they acted like a loudmouthed jerk when saying it. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/14 "2015-07-19T04:14:15Z")
Not necessarily. Sanders says what he believes. Biden says what he believes. McCain and Graham do on the GOP side. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/15 "2015-07-19T04:40:46Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > No. His problem is **what he believes**. Give me a lying dishonest hypocrite who believes in justice and equality and freedom and will work for them, any day, over an honest fruitcake who believes the poisonous shit that occupies Trump’s head. Sincerity is a virtue, sure, but it only takes you so far. And just how is one supposed to know what a lying dishonest hypocrite is liable to actually do once elected? This is one of the reasons why you guys are always disappointed by the politicians you elect, and why they never seem to do what you think they will. I’m sure you can point to this or that thing that Clinton or Obama has done that you agree with or at least find preferable to what a conservative would have done in their place, but you can’t deny that neither Bill Clinton nor Barack Obama have been a disappointment in governing the way you thought they would. But apart from that, the reality is that there’s nothing poisonous or racist about what Trump is saying. It’s only common sense that when you have a president sworn to uphold the nation’s laws who then utterly ignores them to allow immigrants to come flooding into the country unabated, many of them are going to be criminals. The pickings here richer than they are in Mexico, and by coming here those who are already suspects or have outstanding warrants south of the border can flee arrest and imprisonment by their own authorities. So it’s not racist in the least to point it out or to be concerned when an increased threat is coming from a certain group of individuals even if the majority of that group may be innocent themselves. Trump isn’t trying to keep Mexicans out of the country because he holds a racial bias against Mexicans…he merely thinks, as do most conservatives, that they should enter the country legally and be properly vetted for a criminal background before they do. A lot of people in America have been victimized by criminals who’ve come into the country illegally. And many times, even if these people are caught they’re simply deported and they turn right around and come back in again. Rinse and repeat, over and over and over again. A sizable portion of the populace is fed up with this nonsense and Trump recognizes that and speaks out about it, and it’s a significant part of the reason he’s doing so well in the polls. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/16 "2015-07-19T05:25:33Z")
I dunno. I can’t be surprised, shocked or angered by anything Trump says or does anymore. He’s either trolling the world, or he’s completely lost touch with reality on the narcissism front. Probably both. But he’s going to run the Republicans in circles for another month or ten and it will be interesting to watch how they deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/17 "2015-07-19T05:34:16Z")
He makes a great foil for them. Makes them all look reasonable and safe by comparison. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/18 "2015-07-19T06:21:57Z")
Indeed, in the way that measles is preferable to smallpox. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/19 "2015-07-19T06:24:20Z")
He has sailed gracefully over the shark. Two weeks, a month tops, we will have forgotten all about it. There’s almost nobody left to piss off. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/20 "2015-07-19T08:10:25Z")
This country has an inexhaustible supply of people to piss off. _The Fifth Dimension_ got it wrong…it was the dawning of the Age of the Whingebag. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543.md?page=2)