# The Omnibus Trump Pit Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 18, 2015, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543 "2015-07-18T20:15:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/161 "2015-07-30T12:20:15Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Has he actually even articulated any real policy proposals yet, or is he just saying a bunch of random stuff?

He’s going to replace Obamacare with “something terrific.” I don’t know why no one else has thought of this.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/162 "2015-07-30T12:28:04Z")

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> [@Red\_Wiggler](#):
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> He’s going to replace Obamacare with “something terrific.” I don’t know why no one else has thought of this.

He has repeatedly assured us that anything he does will be smarter and better than anything anyone else could do. What more could anyone want?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/163 "2015-07-30T12:28:39Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Has he actually even articulated any real policy proposals yet, or is he just saying a bunch of random stuff?

I seem to recall him saying he was going to bomb some hotels that ISIS is building in Iraq, but I may have it somewhat garbled, or he does.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/164 "2015-07-30T12:38:15Z")

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I think he’s going to build an anti-rapist wall around the entire country, or something like that.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/165 "2015-07-30T12:42:40Z")

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How many people have been elected president as their entry level job in politics?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/166 "2015-07-30T12:43:59Z")

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Eisenhower. Grant, maybe?

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/167 "2015-07-30T12:47:23Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> How many people have been elected president as their entry level job in politics?

> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Eisenhower. Grant, maybe?

George Washington?

However, I served with George Washington. I knew George Washington. George Washington was a friend of mine. Donald Trump is no George Washington.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/168 "2015-07-30T13:14:39Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> On a side note, I imagine that since Lopez is talking about a Republican he’ll get a pass on using a [homosexual slur](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=puto) to describe him.

Homosexual slur only in that most male whores service dudes. Puta/o means whore in the literal sense, but also anybody who sells out (as given in your own reference). What I’m not sure of is what is it Trump is supposed to be selling out on, but I’m reminded of a time a coworker called another a puta and, when challenged on it, explained that the man thus described “is for sale, but you’re never sure what is it you’re getting or how much it will cost, and sometimes you find out when you wake up or days later.” López seems to be more respectful of grammatical gender than my coworker, but I’d expect his meaning is similar.

Also, and this is not in your reference, in Spanish and its pidgins puto/a is often used in the way that English uses fucking as part of insults. An English fucking whore would be a Hispanic puta puta. My slow ass conection is _esta puta mierda de conexión_, and I’m sure it’s not a streetwalker (maybe a streetcrawler, at this speed).

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/169 "2015-07-30T13:45:12Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> George Washington?
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> However, I served with George Washington. I knew George Washington. George Washington was a friend of mine. Donald Trump is no George Washington.

I think Washington had some political background in VA before he became head of the army and then prez.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/170 "2015-07-30T13:53:16Z")

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He had a distinguished military record in the French and Indian War, mainly.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/171 "2015-07-30T14:26:23Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I think Washington had some political background in VA before he became head of the army and then prez.

Washington served in the Virginia House of Burgesses for some years after his service in the French & Indian War. No famous orator, he was active enough in pre-Revolutionary politics to be elected to the First Continental Congress. He attended the Second Continental Congress in his old uniform & was put in command of the new army. (Partly because he looked the part. But he was far from an empty suit.)

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/172 "2015-07-30T14:32:31Z")

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Probably the only time surveyor qualified any man for a military and then political career ever.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/173 "2015-07-30T14:41:34Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Has he actually even articulated any real policy proposals yet, or is he just saying a bunch of random stuff?

I’m ok with Republican politicians careers being nothing more than megalomaniacal lead-ins to book deals and FOX panels. If someone doesn’t really want the job they should at least enjoy the interview and entertain the employer.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/174 "2015-07-30T14:47:14Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Has he actually even articulated any real policy proposals yet, or is he just saying a bunch of random stuff?

He claims he’ll give Sarah Palin a cabinet post, so we know his policies will include hiring idiots and quitters.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/175 "2015-07-30T14:57:28Z")

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> [@Sitnam](#):
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> Probably the only time surveyor qualified any man for a military and then political career ever.

Washington’s social position–as a member of the middling planter class–qualified him for the militia. He married well, ran his estate wisely & managed to get out of the debt that burdened most planters. Washington was neither a leading intellectual nor a spellbinding orator but gained a reputation as a trustworthy man. If he made mistakes, he learned from them. Quite ambitious as a young man, he learned restraint.

And he never wore a wig. So, quite unlike The Donald. (Oh, he was generally good at selecting talented staff members.)

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**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/176 "2015-07-30T15:51:54Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Eisenhower. Grant, maybe?

Eisenhower’s role as commander of all the Allied forces on the Western European front was very political. Handling a hostile House and Senate would have been easy after dealing with Patton and Montgomery!

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/177 "2015-07-30T17:34:29Z")

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, and DeGaulle, Churchill, and FDR.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/178 "2015-07-30T19:07:45Z")

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Being a general isn’t entry level. Especially for an alliance commander like Ike or Wes Clark. That’s serious foreign policy and commander-in-chief type experience. Not to mention it is government work, at least as significant in terms of skill set as a Cabinet official.

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**Author:** ![TheSeaOtter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ed655f/32.png) [@TheSeaOtter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheSeaOtter)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/179 "2015-07-30T20:30:14Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I like this. If any pollsters call us, we should answer “Donald Trump” to to every question.

Including questions like “Are you TheSeaOtter?”, “What political party do you most strongly identify with?”, and “What is your ethnic background?”

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-omnibus-trump-pit-thread/725543/180 "2015-07-30T20:34:09Z")

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The trick is that you have to use a different tone of voice and cadence every time you say it.

Like Groot, only with “Donald Trump”

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