# The Once and Future King-anyone else read it?

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**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [December 8, 2003, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-once-and-future-king-anyone-else-read-it/217714 "2003-12-08T07:08:54Z")
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### Author: ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2003, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-once-and-future-king-anyone-else-read-it/217714/21 "2003-12-09T00:30:07Z")

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Sorry, Professor Xavier, I haven’t finished it yet. But I will tomorrow, I promise.

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### Author: ![Katisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bcef8e/32.png) [@Katisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katisha)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2003, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-once-and-future-king-anyone-else-read-it/217714/22 "2003-12-09T01:59:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by noodler \*  
> \*\*“The Queen of Air and Darkness” has some weird Freudian under-tones. \*\*

_Undertones?_ I’d say it’s pretty overt… :eek: 😉

**ouisey** , I’ve always been fond of that line, too. My sisters and I used to get a good deal of mileage out of it. 😉 (We used to read it aloud, with voices for all the characters – I can still do them. Granted, this wasn’t _that_ long ago… ;))

**Skopo** – yes, White does describe Lancelot as really ugly, which I think is a great touch. Really a spectacular bit of characterization – although the same goes for all three of the principals, really. And the severely dysfunctional Orkney family, too.

I definitely need to reread it – it’s been a few years. And I’ve done a lot of graduate work in medieval studies since then, so I imagine I’d get a lot more of the references (and the book is fairly packed with them)…but first, I need to get a copy that’s not in danger of falling to pieces if you look at it the wrong way.

I read _The Book of Merlyn_ too. It’s weird. 😉

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### Author: ![Zap\_Rowsdower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3da27b/32.png) [@Zap\_Rowsdower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zap_Rowsdower)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2003, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-once-and-future-king-anyone-else-read-it/217714/23 "2003-12-09T03:38:44Z")

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I read it way back in high school, I think. In fact I just mentioned this book in another thread about reading. I do remember enjoying it, but not much of the acutal story. I do have the _Book of Merlyn_, but don’t think I ever read it.

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### Author: ![MamaHen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c89c15/32.png) [@MamaHen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MamaHen)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2003, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-once-and-future-king-anyone-else-read-it/217714/24 "2003-12-09T04:11:25Z")

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I read this book back in high school on my own and I loved it. My Mom bought it for my birthday when I turned 18 but I’ve lost it. It’s on my “Must buy” list though, I can’t wait to share it with my kids.

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### Author: ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2003, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-once-and-future-king-anyone-else-read-it/217714/25 "2003-12-09T04:13:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lao Tsu \*  
> \*\*I read it a long time ago and really enjoyed it. Have you read _The Book of Merlin_? It’s a conclusion to TOAFK from White also. I really enjoyed it too. \*\*

I own it, but I haven’t read it yet. Hopefully, after the re-read.

I like how they call Guinevere “Jenny.” It just adds that little touch.

And how Merlyn keeps mentioning Freud and Victorians.

If I’m not mistaken, it’s also a comment on fascism-the symbol that Mordred chooses is actually a swastika. Wasn’t White an avowed pacifist?

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### Author: ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2003, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-once-and-future-king-anyone-else-read-it/217714/26 "2003-12-09T07:31:56Z")

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A lovely read. I also liked Berger’s Arthur book. I’m blocking on the title, but IIRC there’s a line something like “Godsf\*\*\*! I do not like this dying!”

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#### Post date: [December 9, 2003, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-once-and-future-king-anyone-else-read-it/217714/27 "2003-12-09T07:35:07Z")

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_Arthur Rex._ Also : “Shut thine ancient meat-trap!”

Not a good book for children, I’m afraid.

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### Author: ![Tomcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Tomcat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tomcat)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2003, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-once-and-future-king-anyone-else-read-it/217714/28 "2003-12-09T10:59:51Z")

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Read it 20 years ago, need to read it again…Thanks for jogging the memory on it!

-Tcat

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### Author: ![HDS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bb73d2/32.png) [@HDS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HDS)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2003, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-once-and-future-king-anyone-else-read-it/217714/29 "2003-12-09T11:23:34Z")

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I rescued it from the garbage at church (they were getting rid of it because it had _unicorns_ and _magic_ in it. Oooooo, the horror.) I really, really liked it and should probably re-read it. I suppose it’s been about ten years.

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