# The One Hundred Most Influential People In History Elimination Game

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 6, 2010, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103 "2010-04-06T02:12:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103/181 "2010-04-10T17:58:43Z")

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I might have to vote for Heisenberg but i can’t be certain.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103/182 "2010-04-10T18:24:33Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> I might have to vote for Heisenberg but i can’t be certain.

I’m sure you’re more principled than that. 😉

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103/183 "2010-04-11T07:10:28Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Curtis, a humble suggestion: this thread is a trainwreck due to poorly-considered rules for the game. Perhaps you could ask for it to be closed and to start a new one with better rules, tightening up both the criteria (talking about influence rather than negative/positive) and shortening the voting period? Maybe you could [divide] the people into sets based on the digit in the ones place in their listing, thus making fairly heterogeneous sets, and people could vote one person in each set off the island per round; then at the end of the game, the winners of each set go into a set together for a final series of eliminations.

I’m disappointed that this thread has fizzled since I would have appreciated understanding the strengths and weaknesses of Hart’s list (using Hart’s own criteria of course).

I like **Left Hand of Dorkness** ’s suggestion, and hope that Curtis, or someone else, does start a new thread using Left Hand’s approach. I’ll suggest a 21-round approach as a compromise between Left Hand’s 18-round elimination and a 99-round elimination.

In the 21-round elimination, the first 7 rounds reduce each list of 10 (per Left Hand’s suggestion) to three names. The next 5 rounds each eliminate 4 names from the resulting list of 30. This results in 10 names, and the final 9 rounds pick a winner.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103/184 "2010-04-11T07:32:36Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> I’m disappointed that this thread has fizzled since I would have appreciated understanding the strengths and weaknesses of Hart’s list (using Hart’s own criteria of course).
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> I like **Left Hand of Dorkness** ’s suggestion, and hope that Curtis, or someone else, does start a new thread using Left Hand’s approach. I’ll suggest a 21-round approach as a compromise between Left Hand’s 18-round elimination and a 99-round elimination.
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> In the 21-round elimination, the first 7 rounds reduce each list of 10 (per Left Hand’s suggestion) to three names. The next 5 rounds each eliminate 4 names from the resulting list of 30. This results in 10 names, and the final 9 rounds pick a winner.

It might also help if the timeline is reduced. It doesn’t take a week to get most people’s votes in. Also, better rules. Also, better descriptions (Jesus, Savior of Mankind? I know Curtis had some sucking up to do, but that’s just asking for us atheists to eliminate him round 1). Also, you might be able to actually make it in a poll format so you don’t have to count votes manually. Just make a new thread for each round.

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103/185 "2010-04-11T07:37:36Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> Also, you might be able to actually make it in a poll format so you don’t have to count votes manually. Just make a new thread for each round.

You might want to ask the Mods about that one, like the Mafia games, it’s often more convenient to just have a single thread and just diligently update it rather than have multiple threads that can be reopened or clutter up the main page.

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**Author:** ![bannerrefugee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c68b51/32.png) [@bannerrefugee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bannerrefugee)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103/186 "2010-04-11T10:30:09Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> I would vote for Mo, except for the fear of jihad.☹

The jihad is at least 1/2 the fun. Vote Muhammed

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103/187 "2010-04-11T12:38:56Z")

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It would have been nice for the initial respondents to understand it was about influential people, rather than their chance to give their usual anti religious rants. Even if you don’t believe, the prophets have been influential.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103/188 "2010-04-11T15:00:42Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> It would have been nice for the initial respondents to understand it was about influential people, rather than their chance to give their usual anti religious rants. Even if you don’t believe, the prophets have been influential.

One of the sets of rules was the most bad influence. I offered up three votes while the rules were mutating; if they changed again after my third vote, too bad.

Where’s **Curtis**?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103/189 "2010-04-11T17:45:47Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> It would have been nice for the initial respondents to understand it was about influential people, rather than their chance to give their usual anti religious rants. Even if you don’t believe, the prophets have been influential.

It wasn’t about influential people. It was about people of _beneficial_ influence.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103/190 "2010-04-11T19:14:20Z")

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It’s Sunday. Here’s the vote count:

Moses - 7 votes  
Mohammed - 5 votes  
Adolf Hitler - 3 votes  
St Paul - 3 votes  
Simon Bolivar - 1 vote  
Ts’ai Lun - 1 vote

And it looks like Moses is gone in Round 2.

I’m sticking with Hitler for Round 3.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103/191 "2010-04-11T19:26:36Z")

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I’ll stick with Mohammed for Round 3

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**Author:** ![bannerrefugee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c68b51/32.png) [@bannerrefugee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bannerrefugee)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103/192 "2010-04-11T19:57:55Z")

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I thought Moses was tossed out for being fictional.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103/193 "2010-04-11T20:43:49Z")

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Hitler.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103/194 "2010-04-11T20:59:22Z")

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> [@bannerrefugee](#):
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> I thought Moses was tossed out for being fictional.

Yes and no.

No, he wasn’t tossed out at the beginning for being fictional.  
Yes, we’re tossing him out now for being fictional.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103/195 "2010-04-11T21:15:03Z")

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Hitler again.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103/196 "2010-04-11T21:22:16Z")

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All right, I’ll get on the Hitler bandwagon. He was pretty awful.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103/197 "2010-04-11T21:32:03Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I thought Moses was tossed out for being fictional.

Some people suggested that and there was some discussion of who might be considered fictional. But there was no consensus and no rule covering this. So we appear to be sticking with elimination by vote.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103/198 "2010-04-11T21:33:03Z")

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Also, let’s not forget that fictional characters can have influence.

I suggest we put Yoda on the list.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103/199 "2010-04-11T21:36:09Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> All right, I’ll get on the Hitler bandwagon. He was pretty awful.

While you’re out on that limb… 😃

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-hundred-most-influential-people-in-history-elimination-game/535103/200 "2010-04-11T22:03:35Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> All right, I’ll get on the Hitler bandwagon. He was pretty awful.

Now I have some sort of campaign song running through my head: " Get on the Hitler bandwagon" to the tune of “Look for the Union Label”.

I Vote Hitler, again. It’s starting to feel normal now.

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