# The one true religion. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 8, 2003, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717 "2003-12-08T07:15:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![jesuslynch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e99b99/32.png) [@jesuslynch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jesuslynch)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2003, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717/62 "2003-12-09T14:53:32Z")
[Cthulhu](http://www.howardhallis.com/bis/cthulhuchick/) ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2003, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717/63 "2003-12-09T14:58:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr2001 \* > \*\*I think [this guy](http://hansprestige.com/pics/foh.jpg) said it best… (not safe for church) \*\* If there is a Hell, you are so going there, **Mr2001**. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2003, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717/64 "2003-12-09T15:55:47Z")
Akatsukami: > [@](#): > > Islam is, somewhat ironically, about the textbook example of a religion for Noachides to follow. Granted, but given the centrality of their belief in Mohammed as the Prophet, Judaism would certainly consider it to be a mistake. Not a sin…but yes, a mistake. Chaim Mattis Keller ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2003, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717/65 "2003-12-09T16:03:01Z")
Kyla: > [@](#): > > Mmmm… well, I don’t believe it, or rather, I don’t really think about it. Judaism is for Jews and other people have their own religions. If we think we’re the only correct ones, why don’t we proseltyze? Because there’s a difference between being mistaken and being sinful. We don’t proseletyze if we think they’re doing what they should be doing, i.e., the Noahide laws. But we certainly think that, say, Christians are mistaken about JC being the Son of G-d and that Muslims are mistaken about Mohammed being the Prophet. Chaim Mattis Keller ---
**Author:** ![Wonko\_The\_Sane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/258eb7/32.png) [@Wonko\_The\_Sane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wonko_The_Sane)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717/66 "2003-12-10T02:39:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hydrocortisone \* > \*\*In your opinion what is the one true religion? I say Christianity and that all others will burn in Hell for all time. But that is just my opinion. \*\* Concrete? Is that you I smell? ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717/67 "2003-12-10T03:05:28Z")
I am a **county** ist. We beat other religions with axe handles. We hate the **Zenster** ists, who shove axe handles up heretics and blasphemer’s asses. ---
**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717/68 "2003-12-10T04:35:55Z")
Dogs. If I’m gonna worship something, I want it to worship me back. ---
**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717/69 "2003-12-10T05:22:29Z")
Oh, cats will return worship! You just have to grok them fully! Yes, my twisted little furry friends! Ooooh, you’re so fuckin’ CUTE! ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717/70 "2003-12-10T05:38:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Denis \* > \*\*Oh, cats will return worship! You just have to grok them fully! \*\* Like hell. Cats are those gods that you have to sacrifice virgins to, then they make the volcano erupt and kill your village anyway. And then they laugh at you. ---
**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717/71 "2003-12-10T06:50:39Z")
IMO, they’re ALL the one true religion for those who believe in 'em. Otherwise, what a goddamn stupid idea for a thread. ---
**Author:** ![Already\_in\_Use](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@Already\_in\_Use](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Already_in_Use)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717/72 "2003-12-10T07:06:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GMRyujin \* > \*\*Like hell. Cats are those gods that you have to sacrifice virgins to, then they make the volcano erupt and kill your village anyway. And then they laugh at you. \*\* No, no, no. See, cats are the Matrix. They use humans as sources of fuel and control us. When a cat has one of those crazy mood swings and just randomly starts clawing and biting, it’s turned into an Agent. ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717/73 "2003-12-10T07:53:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Already in Use \* > \*\*No, no, no. See, cats are the Matrix. They use humans as sources of fuel and control us. When a cat has one of those crazy mood swings and just randomly starts clawing and biting, it’s turned into an Agent. \*\* So Agent Smith isn’t an asshole? He wants chicken? He wants liver? Meow mix, meow mix, please deliver! ---
**Author:** ![Cerri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3bc359/32.png) [@Cerri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerri)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717/74 "2003-12-10T08:57:40Z")
Hmm…is stupidity a religion? Only coz it sure seems to have a ton of followers. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717/75 "2003-12-10T09:29:59Z")
Fuck _true_, I believe in _best_. Judaism wins. ---
**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717/76 "2003-12-10T11:00:07Z")
ya know I saw a thread by my good pal hydro in cafe society. There was nothing stupid or flame worthy in it. I was stunned. I thought for just a min that maybe just maybe he was slowly pulling his head out of his ass and becoming a poster on this board. How I was wrong. I wonder how much longer this under-the-bridge-dweller will be amoung us. Personally I think I’d miss him. It’s not everyday I come across someone that even my rambling posts can destroy. Ahh well. ---
**Author:** ![Genghis\_Bob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Genghis\_Bob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Genghis_Bob)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717/77 "2003-12-10T13:02:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bryan Ekers \* > \*\*Fuck _true_, I believe in _best_. > > Judaism wins. \*\* But how do you define _best_? I say it’s whoever throws the best parties. ---
**Author:** ![TVAA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@TVAA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVAA)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717/78 "2003-12-10T13:28:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by cmkeller \* > **Because there’s a difference between being mistaken and being sinful.** Actually, that’s literally untrue. The word which is translated as “sin” actually means something along the lines of “falling short”, “missing the goal”, or “being mistaken”. Falling short of the truth is precisely what “sin” _is_, and that’s exactly what you’re suggesting is going on; ergo, you do indeed believe that other religions are sinful. You just don’t realize it yet. ---
**Author:** ![spogga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@spogga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spogga)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717/79 "2003-12-10T13:50:31Z")
1. Manchester City Football Club 2. Money 3. Ladies with large breasts _The above in no specific order_ ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717/80 "2003-12-10T13:52:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TVAA \* > \*\*Actually, that’s literally untrue. The word which is translated as “sin” actually means something along the lines of “falling short”, “missing the goal”, or “being mistaken”. > > Falling short of the truth is precisely what “sin” _is_, and that’s exactly what you’re suggesting is going on; ergo, you do indeed believe that other religions are sinful. You just don’t realize it yet. \*\* Amazing! A post by **TVAA** that I agree with, in a religion thread! The Greek term, _hamartia_, apparently has the literal meaning of “falling short,” and I’m told that that’s the precise and non-metaphorical meaning of the Hebrew term. E.g., when David is watching Jonathan practice archery from hiding, with a prearranged code as to where the arrows fall, there’s subtle wordplay in the arrows falling short of the mark. Which means that the Pauline quote “All men have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God” will also carry meaning in a non-moral context. ---
**Author:** ![ElwoodCuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/edb3f5/32.png) [@ElwoodCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElwoodCuse)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717/81 "2003-12-10T14:39:21Z")
Isn’t agnosticism the only “religion” based on truth? What’s wrong with “there may or may not be a god, but we as humans can never know for sure in this existence”? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-one-true-religion/217717.md?page=5)