# The Onion calls Quevanzhane Wallis a cunt.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 25, 2013, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329 "2013-02-25T06:40:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329/1 "2013-02-25T06:40:25Z")

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I laughed. Of course. The tweet was funny to me.

[Link.](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/onion-calls-quvenzhane-wallis-c-424113)  
But. I had recently joined a black board to post to when you white folks get on my nerve.

I let them know I thought it was funny. I’m not welcome there anymore.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329/2 "2013-02-25T06:43:38Z")

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This is why I feel bad for child actors. When you’re an adult and decide to get into the entertainment business, you’re making a conscious choice to be an object of ridicule for comedians. But a nine-year-old has no conception of the level of exposure and shit-throwing that’s going to come her way if she becomes a movie star. It’s fucked up. And it’s a shit move by the _Onion_. They should know better.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329/3 "2013-02-25T06:47:50Z")

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I think they have already buckled. I heard they deleted the tweet. I heard they are getting a TON of shit for this one.

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**Author:** ![Gestalt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@Gestalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gestalt)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329/4 "2013-02-25T06:52:30Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> This is why I feel bad for child actors. When you’re an adult and decide to get into the entertainment business, you’re making a conscious choice to be an object of ridicule for comedians. But a nine-year-old has no conception of the level of exposure and shit-throwing that’s going to come her way if she becomes a movie star. It’s fucked up. And it’s a shit move by the _Onion_. They should know better.

Really? I don’t know anything about this actress besides the fact that she is young, but I think the point of the joke was there was no way on Earth someone so young could be a cunt. So, really, I don’t think she was the butt of the joke, at all. It’s like calling a newborn a cunt.

However, if she was actually acting kind of bratty and the Onion’s comment was in response to that, then I rescind my previous argument and agree that the Onion’s tweet was in poor taste.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329/5 "2013-02-25T06:56:48Z")

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Gestalt, I think that yeah, she had been pinging some people’s ‘a little too precocious’ meter for a minute now.

Still, I think the Onion was just joking with the idea that a kid could be a cunt. It was just a joke. I just don’t understand the outrage.

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**Author:** ![Absolute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Absolute](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Absolute)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329/6 "2013-02-25T07:27:36Z")

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Deleting the tweet was a big mistake. They should have just said “We’re a satirical newspaper, go fuck yourself.” Deleting it shows weakness. Now every self-righteous, holier-than-thou twit who follows Hollywood news will descend on the Onion, sensing blood and seeing the opportunity to get their 5 seconds of fame by winning the competition to pack the most outrage and racial sensitivity into 140 characters.

> [@Linked Article](#):
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> Elizabeth Hawksworth tweeted: “Quvenzhane Wallis is a nine year old woman of colour. Let’s let what @TheOnion did sink in and remember that Dakota Fanning never had this.”

Who the fuck is Elizabeth Hawksworth? Just some random dipshit, apparently.

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**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329/7 "2013-02-25T07:30:23Z")

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Heh, I too am in the minority on my ‘black board’.

I think there’s a general feeling that such a joke wouldn’t be made about a little white girl. Which, given the depraved comedy I enjoy, I know to be a ridiculous notion. I’ve heard awful, awful things about Dakota Fanning.

But, yeah, the outrage is of the ‘woe be unto black women’ variety. Pretty cringey joke, though.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329/8 "2013-02-25T07:32:25Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> This is why I feel bad for child actors. When you’re an adult and decide to get into the entertainment business, you’re making a conscious choice to be an object of ridicule for comedians. But a nine-year-old has no conception of the level of exposure and shit-throwing that’s going to come her way if she becomes a movie star. It’s fucked up. And it’s a shit move by the _Onion_. They should know better.

Not gonna lie. I laughed, and I laughed pretty hard. I didn’t take it as an attack on the little girl. I really just saw it as a joke they were making with other adults that they could laugh at. Did not seem mean spirited or like an attack on Qu.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329/9 "2013-02-25T07:32:37Z")

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> [@planetcory](#):
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> Heh, I too am in the minority on my ‘black board’.
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> I think there’s a general feeling that such a joke wouldn’t be made about a little white. Which, given the depraved comedy I enjoy, I know to be a ridiculous notion.
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> But, yeah, the outrage is of the ‘woe be unto black women’ variety. Pretty cringey joke, though.

Honey, I am getting DRAGGED. I honestly can’t ever post there again. I now know the true meaning of ostracized.

To keep it real, though, I have noticed a tinge of annoying behavior from Q a few times in recent interviews, but I think overall, the Onion was going for a ‘she’s so sweet and precious, how could she ever be considered a cunt’ humor. Which means it really was a compliment.

But yeah. The levels of outrage are off the charts. People are calling the Onion pedophiles and everything.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329/10 "2013-02-25T07:39:18Z")

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This is horrendous, disguting, and inexcusable.  
This might even be worse than when Jonathan Swift suggested that the Irish sell their children as food. :mad:

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**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329/11 "2013-02-25T07:44:23Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Honey, I am getting DRAGGED. I honestly can’t ever post there again. I now know the true meaning of ostracized.
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> To keep it real, though, I have noticed a tinge of annoying behavior from Q a few times in recent interviews, but I think overall, the Onion was going for a ‘she’s so sweet and precious, how could she ever be considered a cunt’ humor. Which means it really was a compliment.
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> But yeah. The levels of outrage are off the charts. People are calling the Onion pedophiles and everything.

I think the pedo charge is being leveled at Seth McFarlane because he made some joke about her being almost old enough for Clooney. Pretty tame shit on the ‘edgy’ scale. I guess, as a community, we’re supposed to be circling around our baby.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329/12 "2013-02-25T07:47:24Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> This might even be worse than when Jonathan Swift suggested that the Irish sell their children as food. :mad:

But we already have a lot of Irish children. I’m just… I’m just sayin’.

But yeah, I just see that as The Onion being a little ridiculous for the chuckles. Like, “Yeah, that completely adorable child actress you all love? Well, she’s kind of a cunt.” Haw haw haw. They’re not attacking her; they’re just being silly. But that’s just me.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329/13 "2013-02-25T07:54:12Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Not gonna lie. I laughed, and I laughed pretty hard. I didn’t take it as an attack on the little girl. I really just saw it as a joke they were making with other adults that they could laugh at. Did not seem mean spirited or like an attack on Qu.

I don’t blame you for laughing and I can understand how it can be seen as funny. I enjoy plenty of gallows humor and sick jokes myself. I get the joke they were going for, although I don’t find it funny. The difference between a dead-baby joke and calling a nine-year-old actress a cunt is that _the dead babies aren’t real_. She is an actual human being with feelings. Do you want to be the one to explain to her, “no, honey, you see, it’s actually a meta-joke, so they weren’t _really_ calling you a cunt, so it’s all OK!”

There’s no justification for it. Humor doesn’t justify it, edginess doesn’t justify it. The guy writing for the Onion’s twitter account is simply a bully who got a boner by making fun of a little kid in front of millions of people.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329/14 "2013-02-25T07:57:23Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> I don’t blame you for laughing and I can understand how it can be seen as funny. I enjoy plenty of gallows humor and sick jokes myself. I get the joke they were going for, although I don’t find it funny. The difference between a dead-baby joke and calling a nine-year-old actress a cunt is that _the dead babies aren’t real_. She is an actual human being with feelings. Do you want to be the one to explain to her, “no, honey, you see, it’s actually a meta-joke, so they weren’t _really_ calling you a cunt, so it’s all OK!”
> 
> There’s no justification for it. Humor doesn’t justify it, edginess doesn’t justify it. The guy writing for the Onion’s twitter account is simply a bully who got a boner by making fun of a little kid in front of millions of people.

Yep. I’ll explain it to her. Somebody better.

You see, when you become a celebrity, and you get lots of attention and lights and awards and money, you will also get people saying mean things. Better learn to shrug that off, especially when it’s just a joke and not meant to really cut you.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329/15 "2013-02-25T08:01:43Z")

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> [@planetcory](#):
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> I think the pedo charge is being leveled at Seth McFarlane because he made some joke about her being almost old enough for Clooney.

I have no doubt that many people are complaining that MacFarlane made a joke that she is “almost old enough for Clooney”, but the actual joke was “she has 15 year until she’s too old for George Clonney.” The implications of the _actual_ joke are not nearly as bad as the implications of the joke as it is being retold.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329/16 "2013-02-25T08:05:19Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> The guy writing for the Onion’s twitter account is simply a bully who got a boner by making fun of a little kid in front of millions of people.

cite?

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329/17 "2013-02-25T08:07:11Z")

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In the immortal words of the film _[In Brudges](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0780536/reference)_:

**Ken:** \* Harry, let’s face it. And I’m not being funny. I mean no disrespect, but you’re a cunt. You’re a cunt now, and you’ve always been a cunt. And the only thing that’s going to change is that you’re going to be an even bigger cunt. Maybe have some more cunt kids.\*  
**Harry:** [furious] _Leave my kids fucking out of it! What have they done? You fucking retract that bit about my cunt fucking kids!_  
**Ken:** \* I retract that bit about your cunt fucking kids.\*  
**Harry:** \* Insult my fucking kids? That’s going overboard, mate!\*  
**Ken:** \* I retracted it, didn’t I?\*

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**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329/18 "2013-02-25T08:07:34Z")

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I think the Onion is to be commended for helping the young star to live a normal life by exposing her to the sort of social interaction she would experience if she went to a typical public school like the rest of us.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329/19 "2013-02-25T08:07:51Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> The difference between a dead-baby joke and calling a nine-year-old actress a cunt is that _the dead babies aren’t real_. She is an actual human being with feelings. Do you want to be the one to explain to her, “no, honey, you see, it’s actually a meta-joke, so they weren’t _really_ calling you a cunt, so it’s all OK!”

Ah, I get what you’re saying, and fair enough.

> [@](#):
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> The guy writing for the Onion’s twitter account is simply a bully who got a boner by making fun of a little kid in front of millions of people.

But I don’t get this because, again, I don’t think the joke was about making fun of a little girl. Meta-joke and all of that.

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**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-onion-calls-quevanzhane-wallis-a-cunt/651329/20 "2013-02-25T08:08:08Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> I have no doubt that many people are complaining that MacFarlane made a joke that she is “almost old enough for Clooney”, but the actual joke was “she has 15 year until she’s too old for George Clonney.” The implications of the _actual_ joke are not nearly as bad as the implications of the joke as it is being retold.

The outrage is that he _even dared_ to think of her in a sexual manner. So knowing the actual joke wouldn’t tame that. Once the outrage tornado gets turning, good sense is too quiet to be heard.

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