# The opposite of "Absolute Zero"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-opposite-of-absolute-zero/286229>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [January 23, 2005, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-opposite-of-absolute-zero/286229 "2005-01-23T07:11:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![CrazyFoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@CrazyFoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyFoo)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-opposite-of-absolute-zero/286229/1 "2005-01-23T07:11:37Z")

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Since “Absolute Zero” is the lowest possible temperature (-273.15 degrees Celsius),  
is there a theoretical absolute high temperature?  
Would it be the temps at the core of our sun?

Is there a ceiling on how hot it could get?

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-opposite-of-absolute-zero/286229/2 "2005-01-23T07:13:33Z")

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10[sup]-34[/sup] seconds after the big bang, the temperature of our universe was as hot as it’s ever been since. That seems like a good estimate to me.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-opposite-of-absolute-zero/286229/3 "2005-01-23T07:20:08Z")

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Absolute zero (which doesn’t actually exist anywhere) is the point where all molecular motion stops. So maybe an absolute peak would be where it reaches light speed?

[Here’s once source that says there’s no upper temperature limit.](http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy00/phy00027.htm)

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**Author:** ![David\_Simmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-opposite-of-absolute-zero/286229/4 "2005-01-23T14:43:14Z")

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Go to your library and find a copy of the book _On Physics_ by Isaac Asimov. In the essay _The Height of Up_ he discusses whether or not there is a highest possible temperature and concludes that there is not. Unfortunately, in a footnote at the very end he throws in a hooker and leaves the question hanging.

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**Author:** ![bonzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@bonzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bonzer)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-opposite-of-absolute-zero/286229/5 "2005-01-23T16:17:38Z")

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[The Master speaks](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_347.html), pointing out that the Planck temperature (10[sup]32[/sup] K) may be a maximum in quantum gravity.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-opposite-of-absolute-zero/286229/6 "2005-01-23T19:16:26Z")

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> [@David Simmons](#):
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> Go to your library and find a copy of the book _On Physics_ by Isaac Asimov. In the essay _The Height of Up_ he discusses whether or not there is a highest possible temperature and concludes that there is not. Unfortunately, in a footnote at the very end he throws in a hooker and leaves the question hanging.

However, in a later column, Asimov reported that a physicist read the original article and did a calculation along the lines Asimov proposed, and called it the Asimov Temperature. I don’t know if anything ever came of that, however.

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**Author:** ![BlueMit11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@BlueMit11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlueMit11)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-opposite-of-absolute-zero/286229/7 "2005-01-23T20:43:04Z")

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> [@David Simmons](#):
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> Unfortunately, in a footnote at the very end he throws in a hooker and leaves the question hanging.

Yes, I imagine she’d distract him so much that he couldn’t finish answering it sufficiently.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-opposite-of-absolute-zero/286229/8 "2005-01-23T20:50:00Z")

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What if you had a situation where all matter has been converted into energy? At that point could there even be said to be a meaningful temperature when there is nothing for it to affect?

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**Author:** ![Andy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/aeb1de/32.png) [@Andy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-opposite-of-absolute-zero/286229/9 "2005-01-23T21:12:39Z")

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> [@Little Nemo](#):
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> What if you had a situation where all matter has been converted into energy? At that point could there even be said to be a meaningful temperature when there is nothing for it to affect?

Temperature is a property of matter, without matter there is no temperature.

And if you could covert all matter bar a tiny little bit into energy, contained in the last little bit, it’d probably resemble the beginning of the big bang. But that’s just my opinion.

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-opposite-of-absolute-zero/286229/10 "2005-01-23T21:20:43Z")

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Some like it hot, but you don’t know how hot 'till you try

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-opposite-of-absolute-zero/286229/11 "2005-01-23T22:04:36Z")

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> [@](#):
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> What if you had a situation where all matter has been converted into energy?

Already pointed out… the exact instant immediately after the Big Bang. The only real temperature limitation is the fact that there’s a finite amount of energy in the universe.

Maybe the OP wants to know what the hottest _an object_, such as a star or quasar, can be?

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**Author:** ![kniz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@kniz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kniz)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-opposite-of-absolute-zero/286229/12 "2005-01-23T22:11:32Z")

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😃  
**July/August in Mississippi.**

[sub] **Good to see Isaac Asimov cited. He taught me everything I know about science.** [/sub]

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**Author:** ![David\_Simmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-opposite-of-absolute-zero/286229/13 "2005-01-23T23:53:11Z")

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> [@BlueMit11](#):
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> Yes, I imagine she’d distract him so much that he couldn’t finish answering it sufficiently.

Nah. Aplomb was old Isaac’s middle name.

> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> > [@David Simmons](#):
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> > Go to your library and find a copy of the book On Physics by Isaac Asimov. In the essay The Height of Up he discusses whether or not there is a highest possible temperature and concludes that there is not. Unfortunately, in a footnote at the very end he throws in a hooker and leaves the question hanging.
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> However, in a later column, Asimov reported that a physicist read the original article and did a calculation along the lines Asimov proposed, and called it the Asimov Temperature. I don’t know if anything ever came of that, however.

The footnote in question read: “This chapter first appeared in October 1959. It is pure ivory tower speculation, but it got a reader to thinking. The reader was Hong Yee Chiu, a theoretical physicist who grew curious as to what the highest _real_ temperature might be. This led him to calculations of nuclear reactions in the center of stars, to suggestions as to the cause of star implosions and super-novae, to the role played by neutrino formation in the process, and, in general, to the founding of ‘neutrino astronomy.’ (If I can’t do great things myself, I like to contribute to the doing of them by others.)”

But Isaac never told us the result of Chiu’s calculation of the “highest _real_ temperature.”

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2005, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-opposite-of-absolute-zero/286229/14 "2005-01-24T00:12:03Z")

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> [@Andy](#):
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> And if you could covert all matter bar a tiny little bit into energy, contained in the last little bit, it’d probably resemble the beginning of the big bang…

But it’s a _dry_ heat.
