# The original book, or the video adaptation? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 27, 2026, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-book-or-the-video-adaptation/1031948 "2026-07-27T03:22:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-book-or-the-video-adaptation/1031948/21 "2026-07-27T13:16:19Z")
In some cases, where the original was a short story, the movie fleshed it out and is better: **The Day the Earth Stood Still** is, I think a lot better than Harry Bates’ **Farewell to the Master** The movie **They Live** was more impressive than Ray Nelson’s short story **Eight o’clock in the Morning** On the other had, even with Guillermo del Toro writing and directing, **Mimic** feels like it’s just a huge amount of unnecessary padding wrapped around Donald A. Wollheim’s short story of the same name. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-book-or-the-video-adaptation/1031948/22 "2026-07-27T13:27:36Z")
If we expand a little to stage productions, the musical _Phantom of the Opera_ is much better than the book. The book is actually hilariously bad, as it was basically a dimestore novel and never intended to be great literature. Of couse, the musical changed almost everything in the book except the setting in the Paris Opera House, so it couldn’t help being an improvement. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-book-or-the-video-adaptation/1031948/23 "2026-07-27T13:29:36Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > _Jurassic Park_, assuming we’re talking about the original Michael Crichton novel, was _not_ a tie-in and was not a terrible book, though it’s not unreasonable to prefer the movie The biggest improvement the movie made was switching up the kid characters. In the book, the girl is the younger kid, and is not just entirely useless, she actively makes things worse for everybody. Making both kids a bit older, and essentially splitting the brother from the books into both kids gave each of them something useful to bring to the story, rather than just being there to end up in peril because they did something stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-book-or-the-video-adaptation/1031948/24 "2026-07-27T13:58:22Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > If we expand a little to stage productions, the musical _Phantom of the Opera_ is much better than the book. And some would say the musical _Phantom of the Opera_ by Maury Yeston is even better than the one by that other guy. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-book-or-the-video-adaptation/1031948/25 "2026-07-27T14:00:28Z")
I think movies and books are fundamentally different to experience. Often, when converting one type to the other (and usually the book is first, but not always) something gets lost. I happen to vastly prefer the book version of the Lord of the rings. I reread it recently, any unlike most of the books i read as a child, i still loved it But i love the long introspective parts, and the richness of the world. And I’m not a huge fan of action movies in general. So while replacing a lot of introspection with battle scenes was an objectively good choice in converting the medium, it makes it a lesser work for my tastes. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-book-or-the-video-adaptation/1031948/26 "2026-07-27T14:04:44Z")
As I’ve often said, IANA sophisticated consumer of entertainment. More of books than other formats though. My general policy is whether I first see the production or first read the book, I don’t do the other one. Whichever one I experience first, I’m sure to be disappointed in the second. I learned that lesson mostly from bad experiences in the book → movie direction back in the 1970s. IMO each medium is best at very different aspects of storytelling. What works well _here_ does badly _there_. And vice versa. I’ll miss whatever’s missing from the second one I experience far more than I’ll enjoy whatever’s added. ---
**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-book-or-the-video-adaptation/1031948/27 "2026-07-27T14:12:40Z")
After seeing **Master and Commander** I was excited to read the original books and unfortunately found them boring. The book “Last of the Mohicans” I found completely unreadable, while the film with Daniel Day-Lewis I thought was great. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-book-or-the-video-adaptation/1031948/28 "2026-07-27T14:28:35Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > If we expand a little to stage productions, the musical _Phantom of the Opera_ is much better than the book. The book is actually hilariously bad, as it was basically a dimestore novel and never intended to be great literature. Of couse, the musical changed almost everything in the book except the setting in the Paris Opera House, so it couldn’t help being an improvement. You’re kind of ignoring all the movie versions of the story, which is omitting a lot. I don’t think we’d even be remembering the Phantom had it not been for the 1925 silent version starring Lon Chaney, Sr. His makeup skill was legendary, and he managed to make you care about an insane composer and twisted romantic. The movie frequently veers from common sense, but in that it follows the novel, which I agree is abysmal. The heroine and the hero both get taken in by ruses that wouldn’t fool a five year old today, and they often do profoundly stupid things. Terry Pratchett had their number when he wrote the Discworld novel **Maskerade** , which is sorta based on TPotO and makes fun of it. Especially Christine’s bubble-headedness Any way, they couldn’t find a good ending for the film, and they kept on re-shooting it. The existing ending isn’t the same as the book’s. When next Universal filmed the Phantom they significantly changed the story – now the Phantom was a musician and composer whose work is stolen, and who gets disfigured with acid. I think they wanted make him more sympathetic, and figured a half-mad composer who was wronged would be a better match than a psychopathic killer. I don’t think the movie did very well despite some ambitious opera staging, and a technicolor production – the only Universal horror film to be made in color). But it influenced the next version. Hammer films had been working through the Universal horror list. Having given us Frankenstein, Dracula, and the Mummy, they decided to do the Phantom. They changed a lot (even giving him an evil hunchbacked assistant, who was actually responsible for a lot of the crimes), but they kept that mawkish sentimental story about the Phantom being a disfigured composer who was wronged (and pretty severely wronged in this version). Wen the chandelier fell in this version, the only one hurt was the Phantom. They kpt the idea of the disfigured, wronged composer when Brian de Palma 9and Paul Williams) made **The Phantom of the Paradise**. If anything, Andrew lloyd Webber deserved credit for extracting the Phantom from that acid-disfigured composer and returning him to his roots as a psychopath. His ending is even closer to that of the book than any other version. So I disagree that the stage show changed “almost everything in the book excep the setting”. Christine Daeae, her grieving for her father, the “Angel of Musi” is all there from the book. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-book-or-the-video-adaptation/1031948/29 "2026-07-27T14:44:27Z")
A.E.W. Mason’s novel “The Four Feathers” has been filmed half a dozen times. They usually take significant liberties with the plot. I still loved the 1939 version, starring John Clements, and I didn’t hate the 2002 version, starring Heath Ledger. Oddly enough, the most faithful version is a low-budget 1978 TV movie starring Beau Bridges. Despite the cheap costumes and sets, I enjoyed it. _Logan’s Run_ is an interesting pair. There are three scenes where the movie copies action and dialog from the book, near-verbatim, but for about three quarters of the story, the book and film are drastically different. Neither book nor film is an Immortal Classic, but both are entertaining yarns. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-book-or-the-video-adaptation/1031948/30 "2026-07-27T14:52:29Z")
In the book, the actual hero is a detective from the Middle East pursuing the Phantom for crimes committed there. The detective is resourceful and cunning; Raoul is a complete airhead and pretty much useless, as is Christine. The musical completely omits the detective character and makes Raoul the hero. Don’t know if any of the movies kept him or not, but that’s a huge change from the novel. If any of you are inclined to read the novel for giggles, btw, it explains how the Phantom was the architecht of the Opera house who put all those secret passages and trapdoors in there while building it, and none of the other workers knew about them because they were on strike that day. Also he has a secret torture chamber consisting of - wait for it - a hall of mirrors. And if you ever wondered what his name was, it’s Eric. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-book-or-the-video-adaptation/1031948/31 "2026-07-27T16:23:14Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > The adaptations of Wells take the surface sheen and completely miss the underlying significance. That’s because Wells’s writings reflect that he was an ardent Socialist, something that has gone steadily downhill in the West since the 1940s. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-book-or-the-video-adaptation/1031948/32 "2026-07-27T17:13:38Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > If any of you are inclined to read the novel for giggles, btw, it explains how the Phantom was the architecht of the Opera house who put all those secret passages and trapdoors in there while building it, and none of the other workers knew about them because they were on strike that day. Also he has a secret torture chamber consisting of - wait for it - a hall of mirrors. And if you ever wondered what his name was, it’s Eric. No, “Erik” with a “K”. I looked for a copy of Gaston Leroux’s novel for ages, but couldn’t find one. I finally dug up a used copy that was released as a tie-in with the 1962 Herbert Lom version. A couple of years later I suddenly started seeing paperback copies of the story, and I _knew_ that someone was coming out with a new version. It was the Andrew Lloyd Webber musical, although I hadn’t heard about it yet. It may be hard to believe, now that you can go into any bookstore and get a copy of the book in hardcover, and it’s considered a “classic”, but in the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s it was almost impossible to find a copy. It’s also hard to believe, but, although most people couldn’t tell you who wrote the story (Gaston Leroux), he was listed in polls in the horror and fantasy magazines as one of the favorite and top writers – back in the 1920s and 1930s. Can you name any other works by him? **The Mystery of the Yellow Room** is another favorite, but probably only among mystery fans. It’s a locked-room thriller. If you want to read a copy of _Phantom_, I recommend _The Essential Phantom of the Opera_, with annotations by Leonard Wolf. Wilf had previously annotated _Frankenstein_ and _Dracula_, but evidently had a falling out with the “annotated” people. He re-released his Frankenstein and Dracula volumes as “The Essential…”, and followed them up with The Essential Phantom of the Opera and The Essential Dr. Jeckyll and Mr. Hyde. After the Webber musical (and that other, lesser-known one) came out, we were hit with other adaptations, even less faithful than the previous ones. There was a made-for-TV one starring Burt Lancaster (!!), and a gory version starring Richard Englund, a sort of Freddy of the Opera. ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-book-or-the-video-adaptation/1031948/33 "2026-07-27T17:25:39Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > _A Song of Fire and Ice_ by George R.R. Martin vs. _Game of Thrones_ > and > _The Hellbound Heart_ by Clive Barker vs. _Hellraiser_ For those specifically, you’ll get a lot more detail from _A Song of Fire and Ice_, which is some case is good, and in other too much. One big advantage to _Game of Thrones_ is that at least it’s complete (regardless of what you may think of the ending). With the books, that may never be the case. As for Clive Barker, I’d take his written work over video any day. I think it’s very difficult to translate horror from print to video, and Barker is probably my favorite horror writer. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-book-or-the-video-adaptation/1031948/34 "2026-07-27T19:55:46Z")
**The Essential Calvin & Hobbes** was pretty scary, too. 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-book-or-the-video-adaptation/1031948/35 "2026-07-27T21:22:53Z")
Leon Uris’s _ **QB VII** _ is one helluva book, but it differs considerably from the TV miniseries of the same name. That said, I think I enjoyed the adaptation more than the novel itself, due partly to the show’s stellar cast, which included Ben Gazzara, Anthony Hopkins, and Anthony Quayle. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-book-or-the-video-adaptation/1031948/36 "2026-07-27T21:50:08Z")
> [@JeffB](#): > > > [@Lumpy](#): > > > > _A Song of Fire and Ice_ by George R.R. Martin vs. _Game of Thrones_ > > and > > _The Hellbound Heart_ by Clive Barker vs. _Hellraiser_ > > For those specifically, you’ll get a lot more detail from _A Song of Fire and Ice_ Is that a knockoff version of _A Song of Ice and Fire_? ---
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Just putting my (wife’s) money where my (wife’s) mouth is… The local[Roadhouse Cinema](https://www.roadhousecinemas.com/) (movie theater with full dinner and alcohol service) is doing an event cinema in September, with Monday Night showings of each film of the trilogy (no, NOT the Hobbit-horror) once a week for three weeks. We have now bought tickets for all three. ---
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Silence of the Lambs? The book was very good, but he movie is one of the very best thriller/horror movies of all time. ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2026, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-book-or-the-video-adaptation/1031948/39 "2026-07-28T03:19:04Z")
> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#): > > _Graveyard Shift_, by Stephen King, vs the movie by morons. _The Lawnmower Man_, by Stephen King, vs the movie by morons. ---
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