# The original outlives the replacement **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 29, 2016, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661 "2016-06-29T01:36:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/21 "2016-06-29T19:05:23Z")
Before HAWAII FIVE-O, Jack Lord was Felix Leiter to Sean Connery as James Bond in DOCTOR NO; Cec Linder replaced him in GOLDFINGER, but didn’t live as long. (You ever wonder what a typical Bond movie must look like from Leiter’s perspective? “Huh, once again it’s my in-over-his-head buddy who doesn’t know what’s going on; figure I’ll bring him up to speed, and then watch as he runs off to get captured like always, and then after a nice steak dinner at the local hotel I’ll send in the Marines.”) ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_John_Marcej)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/22 "2016-06-29T19:19:03Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Set to turn 100 this Friday – which makes her being cast as the sickly Miss Melanie in GONE WITH THE WIND increasingly silly, as she _defines_ robust – Olivia de Havilland played Maid Marian in the '30s and has so far outlived Joan Rice and Sarah Branch and Audrey Hepburn, who fielded that role in the '50s and '60s and '70s. > > It may be impossible to kill her with conventional weapons. Well, if she outlives Cate Blanchett then we’ll know she’s super powered. ---
**Author:** ![Waltzes\_with\_Cacti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90ced4/32.png) [@Waltzes\_with\_Cacti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waltzes_with_Cacti)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/23 "2016-06-29T19:26:28Z")
Ethel Merman originated the role of Mama Rose on Broadway in the musical _Gypsy_. Rosalind Russell played the part in the movie (to the undying indignation of Merman’s many fans.) Russell died in 1976 but La Merm soldiered on, singing to the end, until 1984. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/24 "2016-06-29T19:38:25Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Before HAWAII FIVE-O, Jack Lord was Felix Leiter to Sean Connery as James Bond in DOCTOR NO; Cec Linder replaced him in GOLDFINGER, but didn’t live as long. …and, come to think of it, Donald Pleasence was replaced as Blofeld by a younger and more vigorous Telly Savalas, but it’s the smaller and older guy who lived longer. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/25 "2016-06-29T20:03:01Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Set to turn 100 this Friday – which makes her being cast as the sickly Miss Melanie in GONE WITH THE WIND increasingly silly, as she _defines_ robust – Olivia de Havilland played Maid Marian in the '30s and has so far outlived Joan Rice and Sarah Branch and Audrey Hepburn, who fielded that role in the '50s and '60s and '70s. > > It may be impossible to kill her with conventional weapons. Must we nuke her from orbit? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/26 "2016-06-29T20:22:51Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Must we nuke her from orbit? [del]It’s the only way to be sure[/del] No, if you nuke her you’ll just make her mad. Albert Finney got nominated for an Oscar for playing Hercule Poirot, and was then replaced in the role by Peter Ustinov, whom he outlived. ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/27 "2016-06-29T20:34:34Z")
There was a remake of the Munsters TV series in 1988-91. Al Lewis was very disappointed that he couldn’t resume his role as Grandpa from 1960s. He commented on how “Grandpa is now too old to play Grandpa”. He outlived his replacement, Howard Morton who was only two years younger, by nine years. ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/28 "2016-06-29T20:37:03Z")
Audrey Hepburn played Eliza in the film version of “My Fair Lady” which Julie Andrews played on Broadway (and there was controversy about that). Julie is still with us, sadly Audrey isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/29 "2016-06-29T20:41:07Z")
New Coke, discontinued internationally in 2002. Coke Classic still going strong. Alas, New Slurm never made it into production. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/30 "2016-06-30T01:25:40Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Henry Blake in **MASH** : Maclean Stevenson died Feb. 15, 1996; Roger Bowen (from the movie) lived until Feb. 16, 1996. > > Hugh Marlowe – TV’s first Ellery Queen – outlived Jim Hutton. How about a Trapper John three-fer? Elliot Gould, who played Trapper in the film version of M_A_S\*H, has outlived Wayne Rogers, who played Trapper in the TV series. Rogers outlived Pernell Roberts, who later starred in “Trapper John MD”. ---
**Author:** ![Shmendrik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shmendrik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shmendrik)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/31 "2016-06-30T04:24:44Z")
Not exactly a replacement, but… Hitler’s bodyguard Rochus Misch was played by Heinrich Schmieder in the 2004 movie The Downfall. Schmieder died at age 40 in 2010, Misch died at age 96 in 2013. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/32 "2016-06-30T14:16:59Z")
Martin Horsey, the original Artful Dodger in the British Oliver!, outlives his replacement. Davy Jones. Ben Vereen, the original Judas in Jesus Christ Superstar, outlives his replacement, Carl Anderson. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/33 "2016-06-30T14:35:51Z")
Anthony Warlow, the original Australian Phantom, outlives his replacement, Rob Guest. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/34 "2016-06-30T15:19:15Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Speaking of '89, should we count River Phoenix as Indiana Jones? Phoenix wasn’t replacing Ford as Jones; he was playing the younger Jones in a flashback ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/35 "2016-06-30T19:17:48Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > How about a Trapper John three-fer? Elliot Gould, who played Trapper in the film version of M_A_S\*H, has outlived Wayne Rogers, who played Trapper in the TV series. Rogers outlived Pernell Roberts, who later starred in “Trapper John MD”. Dratness! Beat me to it. Other _MASH_ instances: Robert Duvall has outlived his Major Frank Burns counterpart Larry Linville (d2000). Carl Gottlieb has outlived John Orchard (d1995) despite being cast as “Ugly” John. Bud Cort has outlived (just barely\*) one of the two TV actors of Pvt. Boone. Bruno Kirby (d2006) had the role in the pilot, Robert Gooden in a few other episodes might still be with us. \*Cort was nearly killed in a 1979 car accident that left him scarred. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/36 "2016-06-30T19:56:45Z")
John Rutsey died in 2008. His replacement as the drummer for _Rush_ Neil Peart is still alive. Or as the others in the band call him, “The New Guy.” ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/37 "2016-06-30T20:02:48Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Martin Horsey, the original Artful Dodger in the British Oliver!, outlives his replacement. Davy Jones. > > Ben Vereen, the original Judas in Jesus Christ Superstar, outlives his replacement, Carl Anderson. So has Murray Head, from the _original_ original album. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/38 "2016-06-30T20:17:00Z")
Carol Channing played the original Dolly Levy in _Hello, Dolly_ on Broadway and has outlived several of her replacements from the original run: Pearl Bailey, Phyllis Diller, Betty Grable, Ethel Merman, Martha Raye, and Ginger Rogers. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/39 "2016-06-30T20:41:27Z")
Buddy Ebsen (d. 2003) who played Jed Clampett in the TV series _The Beverly Hillbillies_ outlived Jim Varney (d. 2000) who played the character in the 1993 movie remake. Ebsen was also originally cast to play the Tin Man in _The Wizard of Oz_ but he turned out to be allergic to the silver make-up and was replaced by Jack Haley (d. 1979). ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/40 "2016-06-30T20:51:00Z")
Hulk Hogan is still alive. The man who was supposed to replace him atop the WWE, the Ultimate Warrior, is dead. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661.md?page=3)