# The original outlives the replacement **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 29, 2016, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661 "2016-06-29T01:36:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/121 "2017-01-20T14:49:38Z")
> [@wikipedia](#): > > n June 2012, Curry suffered a major stroke at his home in Los Angeles. As a result of the stroke, he now uses a wheelchair. Curry was a heavy smoker, and things do not look good for him. ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/122 "2017-01-21T20:58:22Z")
Back in the 1970s on New York City you would constantly see tv commercials for a consumer finance company called The Money Store. Yankees broadcaster Phil Rizzuto was the spokesman. At some point they replaced him with George Fenneman, best known as Groucho’s sidekick on “You Bet YourcLife”. The New York Daily News actually editorialized this was a bad idea since the Scooter was a well known New York figure for 40 years. Rizzuto was two years older but outlived Fenneman by a decade. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/123 "2017-01-28T17:08:23Z")
Willie Mae “Big Mama” Thornton was the first to record “Hound Dog,” later a hit for Elvis Presley; and “Ball and Chain” later a hit for Janis Joplin. She died on July 25, 1984, having outlived them both. ---
**Author:** ![RedHotYankees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cc9497/32.png) [@RedHotYankees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedHotYankees)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/124 "2017-05-26T19:49:55Z")
Maureen O’Hara Natasha who played the mother in 1961 The Parent Trap, actually outlived Natasha Richardson who played the mother in the 1998 remake of the film. Natasha Richardson tragically died in 2009 from a head injury at the age of 45, Maureen O’Hara Natasha lived till 95 and died in 2015 ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/125 "2017-05-26T19:54:25Z")
I was expecting that the reason this thread was revived was the death of Roger Moore. ---
**Author:** ![RedHotYankees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cc9497/32.png) [@RedHotYankees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedHotYankees)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/126 "2017-10-24T20:08:47Z")
Sean Connery who started playing James Bond in 1962 is alive and outlived Roger Moore who first played the character in 1973. ---
**Author:** ![RedHotYankees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cc9497/32.png) [@RedHotYankees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedHotYankees)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/127 "2017-10-24T20:11:06Z")
Sean Connery the original James Bond is alive and outlived both David Niven and Roger Moore. ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2017, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/128 "2017-10-24T22:55:24Z")
Glancing at first ladies Sarah Polk (1803-1891) seems to have outlived a lot. Margaret Taylor, Abigail Fillmore, Jane Pierce, Mary Lincoln, Eliza Johnson, Lucy Hayes. Ellen Arthur died nineteen months before her husband became President. Frances Cleveland, who was 21 when she married incumbent President, outlived Caroline Harrison, Ida Sexton, Ellen Wilson and Florence Harding. > **[List of first ladies of the United States](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_First_Ladies_of_the_United_States)** > > The first lady of the United States is the hostess of the White House. The position is traditionally filled by the wife of the president of the United States, but, on occasion, the title has been applied to women who were not presidents' wives, such as when the president was a bachelor or widower, or when the wife of the president was unable to fulfill the duties of the first lady. The first lady is not an elected position; it carries no official duties and receives no salary. Nonetheless, she... ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2017, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/129 "2017-10-24T23:08:33Z")
Jimmy Carter outlived Ronald Reagan. Also, David Niven played James Bond? wasn’t he awfully old? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Mondegreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/91b2a8/32.png) [@Lord\_Mondegreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Mondegreen)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2017, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/130 "2017-10-24T23:14:30Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Also, David Niven played James Bond? wasn’t he awfully old? Comedy version of Casino Royale in 1967. Also with Peter Sellars. ---
**Author:** ![Dropo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Dropo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dropo)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/131 "2017-10-24T23:15:06Z")
> [@RedHotYankees](#): > > Sean Connery the original James Bond is alive and outlived both David Niven and Roger Moore. Barry Nelson was the first actor to play James Bond in 1954. Mr. Nelson died in 2007. > **["Climax!" Casino Royale (TV Episode 1954) ⭐ 5.6 | Drama](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0310853/?ref_=rvi_tt)** > > 52m | Unrated ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/132 "2017-10-24T23:50:38Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Alfred Drake originated Curly in the original Broadway version of _Oklahoma!_ and outlived Gordon Macrae, who played the part in the movie. Speaking of Curlies, Curly Howard predeceased his predecessor in the Stooges (and significantly elder brother), Shemp, by three years. (Moe was the middle brother, and outlived them both by ~20 years.) ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2017, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/133 "2017-10-25T00:49:42Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Jimmy Carter outlived Ronald Reagan. James Madison (POTUS #4) outlived James Monroe (POTUS #5). John Quincy Adams (POTUS #6) outlived Andrew Jackson (POTUS #7). Adams, Jackson & Martin Van Buren (#8) outlived William Henry Harrison (#9). Van Buren also outlived John Tyler (#10), James K. Polk (#11) and Zachary Taylor (#12). John Tyler outlived Polk & Taylor. Millard Fillmore (#13), Franklin Pierce (#14), James Buchanan (#15) and Abraham Lincoln (#16) died in reverse order of their presidencies. Ulysses S. Grant (#18) and Rutherford B. Hayes (#19) outlived James Garfield (#20). Hayes also outlived Chester A. Arthur (#21). Grover Cleveland (#22/24) outlived Benjamin Harrison (#23) and William McKinley (#25). William Howard Taft (#27) outlived Woodrow Wilson (#28) and Warren G. Harding (#29). Wilson also outlived Harding. Herbert Hoover (#31) outlived Franklin D. Roosevelt (#32). Harry Truman (#33) outlived Dwight D. Eisenhower (#34) and John F. Kennedy (#35). Eisenhower also outlived JFK. And finally, John Adams (POTUS #2) outlived Thomas Jefferson (POTUS #3) by just a few hours. So far, they are the only two U.S. Presidents to die on the same day: July 4th, 1826. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2017, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/134 "2017-10-25T01:19:22Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > King Crimson’s original singer/bassist and drummer, Greg Lake and Michael Giles, are still alive. > > Replacements Gordon Haskell and Andrew McCullough are also still alive. We can add Peter Giles, who filled in as temporary bassist on Crimson’s second album. > > Haskell and McCullough quit after making one album and were replaced by Boz Burrell and Ian Wallace, who are both now deceased. By now, Gordon Haskell has also outlived John Wetton (d.2017); sadly, Greg Lake (d.2016) did not. Uriah Heep’s original bassist, Paul Newton, was replaced in 1971 by Mark Clarke, who himself was replaced in '72. Both men are still alive, and of the four bass players who’ve been in the band since, three are deceased: Gary Thain (d.1975), John Wetton (d.2017), and Trevor Bolder (d.2013). ---
**Author:** ![BlutEngel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blutengel/32/7323_2.png) [@BlutEngel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlutEngel)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2017, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/135 "2017-10-25T01:36:47Z")
Ronnie James Dio: dead. Ozzy Osbourne: alive. Reply With Quote ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661/136 "2017-10-31T13:20:05Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Steve Barton, who replaced Michael Crawford as Broadway’s Phantom, committed suicide on July 21, 2001. Crawford is still alive. And Michael Crawford has now outlived his Los Angeles replacement, Robert Guillaume. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-original-outlives-the-replacement/758661.md?page=6)