# The Orville Season 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [December 31, 2018, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966 "2018-12-31T06:20:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/521 "2019-02-07T07:51:03Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > A similar thing happened on the Voyager episode [Warhead](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhead_(Star_Trek:_Voyager)). > > ETA: On reading the synopsis, maybe this one is not such a good example as it’s debateable whether the warhead actually went outside its programming. Well, there’s always Darkstar. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/522 "2019-02-07T14:26:30Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > The Orville has been called a “mid-level exploratory vessel”. But that doesn’t explain why two of its officers were sent on a Krill spy mission, so the point is fair as far as it goes; also fair is the counterpoint that this is similar to TOS and the Klingons. I guess I’m just a backstory and broad stroke consistency guy… my favorite books are the ones with a lot of backstory that informs the “present day”. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/523 "2019-02-07T15:29:47Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > The Orville has been called a “mid-level exploratory vessel”. But that doesn’t explain why two of its officers were sent on a Krill spy mission, … The Lords of the Admiralty want to kill them off. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/524 "2019-02-07T15:45:14Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > The Orville has been called a “mid-level exploratory vessel”. But that doesn’t explain why two of its officers were sent on a Krill spy mission, so the point is fair as far as it goes; also fair is the counterpoint that this is similar to TOS and the Klingons. The Orville captured and was still in possession of the shuttle that they were going to use to infiltrate the Krill. Command was probably concerned if they didn’t do the mission soon, the Krill would figure out a shuttle was missing, and there was no time to get another Union ship out there. Plus Gordon is the best pilot in the Fleet, so a good choice to pilot unfamiliar hardware. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/525 "2019-02-07T16:34:13Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > The Orville captured and was still in possession of the shuttle that they were going to use to infiltrate the Krill. Command was probably concerned if they didn’t do the mission soon, the Krill would figure out a shuttle was missing, and there was no time to get another Union ship out there. Plus Gordon is the best pilot in the Fleet, so a good choice to pilot unfamiliar hardware. There you go again, muldoonthief, confusing people with the facts. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/526 "2019-02-07T16:46:25Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > The Orville has been called a “mid-level exploratory vessel”. But that doesn’t explain why two of its officers were sent on a Krill spy mission, so the point is fair as far as it goes; also fair is the counterpoint that this is similar to TOS and the Klingons. Surely you mean the Romulans? :dubious: 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/527 "2019-02-07T17:41:44Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Well, there’s always Darkstar. “Let there be light.” ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/528 "2019-02-07T18:37:07Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > “Let there be light.” “… Bomb?” :dubious: :eek: ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/529 "2019-02-07T22:18:42Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Surely you mean the Romulans? :dubious: 😕 Romulans might be the better analogy, but I fail to see how Klingons are completely inapplicable. > [@muldoonthief](#): > > The Orville captured and was still in possession of the shuttle that they were going to use to infiltrate the Krill. Command was probably concerned if they didn’t do the mission soon, the Krill would figure out a shuttle was missing, and there was no time to get another Union ship out there. Plus Gordon is the best pilot in the Fleet, so a good choice to pilot unfamiliar hardware. Good point. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/530 "2019-02-07T22:51:43Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Romulans might be the better analogy, but I fail to see how Klingons are completely inapplicable. > **[The Enterprise Incident (episode)](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Enterprise_Incident_(episode))** > > Acting apparently restless and irrational, Captain Kirk inexplicably orders the Enterprise into Romulan space where the ship is quickly captured by the enemy and Kirk held captive aboard their flagship. "Enterprise medical log, stardate 5027.3. Dr.... ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/531 "2019-02-07T23:52:11Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > [The Enterprise Incident (episode) | Memory Alpha | Fandom](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Enterprise_Incident_(episode)) “Error 404” ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/532 "2019-02-08T00:33:08Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > “Error 404” Try it now: > **[The Enterprise Incident (episode)](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Enterprise_Incident_(episode))** > > Acting apparently restless and irrational, Captain Kirk inexplicably orders the Enterprise into Romulan space where the ship is quickly captured by the enemy and Kirk held captive aboard their flagship. "Enterprise medical log, stardate 5027.3. Dr.... ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/533 "2019-02-08T01:27:13Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Try it now: > > [The Enterprise Incident (episode) | Memory Alpha | Fandom](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Enterprise_Incident_(episode)) Definitely remarkable similarities. I thought I had seen all of TOS, but that one does not look familiar. In terms of talking about the Klingons, I just meant that while the Enterprise was on a five year exploratory mission, they would occasionally veer into a military footing with the Klingons as their adversaries. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/534 "2019-02-08T11:11:35Z")
Guess we have a repeat this week. Not sure why. Funny enough, the next Orville will be on Valentine’s day. You’d think maybe they’d have saved the previous episode for that, since it’d be fitting. But I suppose they wanted to go off on their brief break with a good episode, and maybe the next one they’d swap it with wouldn’t be as good. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/535 "2019-02-11T18:40:27Z")
I’m enjoying the show, mostly, but it’s certainly vulnerable to nitpicking. Great to actually see the actors who voice Isaac and Yaphit in the simulations with the doctor. The crew’s giddiness at the prospect of first contact, and the race by the two officers to get to the Bridge with news of Isaac’s and the doctor’s date, were hilarious. I also laughed when the captain had to change course midsentence when Isaac came on the Bridge: “He’s still… my father, and he’ll never be a weightlifter no matter how much his heart is in it.” Other good lines: “Let’s flip the tables here.” :: CRASH :: And when Isaac is trying provoke a breakup: “The last thing you need is more dessert.” Glad not to see more of Patrick Warburton as the acting Security chief. That character was just annoying. I haven’t warmed to Alara’s replacement yet, though - too much eye makeup and her teeth look a little odd, I have to say. Why do they keep showing _The Orville_ with “limited commercial interruption”? Are they having a hard time lining up advertisers? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/536 "2019-02-11T20:46:56Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Why do they keep showing _The Orville_ with “limited commercial interruption”? Are they having a hard time lining up advertisers? Why are they saying it at all, as it’s obviously not true. I think they have MORE commercial interruptions. They might have fewer overall commercials, but they break in all the damn time. Thank goodness for DVR. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/537 "2019-02-11T20:54:35Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Why are they saying it at all, as it’s obviously not true. I think they have MORE commercial interruptions. They might have fewer overall commercials, but they break in all the damn time. Thank goodness for DVR. I was thinking the same thing. Maybe it’s some sort of meta-joke by McFarlane? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/538 "2019-02-11T21:09:46Z")
Things I like about _The Orville_… - It’s an homage to Star Trek, even the sappy parts - It reunites Seth McFarlane and Scott Grimes, who provide the voices of Stan and son Steve from _American Dad_ - The Orville crew aren’t superhuman and are just as goofy, petty, and socially clueless as real people - “The Orville” is such a mundane name for a ship. It’s the guy who invented gourmet popcorn, fer gosh sakes. Things I don’t like about _The Orville_… - it uses the same trope as every other scifi show that all citizens of an alien planet share the same culture, speak English, and occupy the same amount of space as a city block. - the prevailing alien flaw of the week is a singular trait that can be fixed by the end of the episode. - it’s a Seth McFarlane vanity project. OK, that’s not really a bad thing. Seth doesn’t consider himself the center of the universe. At least he manages to convince us of that. I’m waiting until the day when he finally cracks and makes Captain Mercer the Space Messiah, so I can finally say “Ah HA! I knew it! He was setting himself to take Captain Kirk’s place all along!” ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/539 "2019-02-11T21:11:04Z")
I believe it was true at first. Having more commercials is a good sign, more advertisers are buying time, and the show is making money for the network. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/540 "2019-02-11T21:16:21Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > - “The Orville” is such a mundane name for a ship. It’s the guy who invented gourmet popcorn, fer gosh sakes. I figure it was named after Orville Wright. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966.md?page=28)